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  • Dragstews
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2010
    • 13739

    This is going to be a Fun Motor Build....



    Took in this 40 EL Knuck for a rebuild....

    Think it is a bit rough....

    Hoping to get a silk purse from this sow's ear....
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    Last edited by Dragstews; 05-31-2014, 5:10 PM.
    Take my 45 and outrun em all ..
  • Dragstews
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2010
    • 13739

    #2
    Did alot of clean up to some parts...



    Being the motor was took apart 25 years ago and sat that long, most of the vial motor parts are not usable ....

    The heads, jugs, cases (Left side has seen a repair that doesn't look all that good) rocker housings, lower spring buckets, rods (Needs there are new races and bushings) cam cover, and lifter blocks can be saved.... The rest is in bad, bad shape, due to rust and ware....


    The crank-pin for sure has seen better days....



    And the flywheels..

    Being we are in need of these motor parts... Ordered a set of T&O wheels for the 61" stroke of 3-1/2.... This EL is the last year for the small case and wheels.. O.D. is the 8-1/8 if it was made one year later still being the 61" motor the wheels would have been 8-1/2 O.D.

    With all of T&O Flywheels they will have the larger taper of the 41 and up FL crank-pin... They do not make the step-pin taper as what the early EL's and U's used...

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    Found a bit of more work to do...

    Was wanting to get the heads and jugs under powder so when the parts come in I would be able to assembly the heads....

    Got the front jug/head looking good had to weld back a fin and fill a hole... It's ready for the powder...



    On the rear head only a hole needed to be filled with weld...

    Started to do the clean up on the jug and found a broke fin....More welding will be in line to do...





    That will slow up the powder some...
    Just as well got a world of parts to get...and wait for..

    Powder laid down nice.....





    Valve parts came in.... Wanting to get the heads started with the machine work....




    Had a bit of rust on the rods. Since some grinding was needed to get under the rust, went a bit further and polished them.







    More new is showing up...



    Looks alot better than the ones that came with this job..

    Last edited by Dragstews; 05-31-2014, 5:19 PM.
    Take my 45 and outrun em all ..

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    • Dragstews
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2010
      • 13739

      #3
      The rust sure did it's thing in some areas that could cause problems...

      The head gasket area on this jug is one...



      Will do a step cut to get under the rust and leave a step for more crush on a fire ring head gasket...

      As in the photo below shows...



      Going to do a 0.010 over bore to clean up the rust on the I.D.
      Last edited by Dragstews; 05-31-2014, 5:21 PM.
      Take my 45 and outrun em all ..

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      • govmule84
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2011
        • 240

        #4
        Fuck, what a shitload of work.

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        • Dragstews
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2010
          • 13739

          #5
          Originally posted by govmule84
          Fuck, what a shitload of work.

          Tell me.....

          Getting all the parts together for the lower end...
          Doesn't look all that well down there too...

          Case been repaired ... Not what I would call a "Cat's Ass" job was done on it....
          Thinking about what to do bout it....???



          I may have a plan...

          Got a new set of flywheels in the stock stroke for the 40 EL.... These have the late 41 and up FL crank-pin tapers....



          Was going to put back the OEM rods of the day...
          Started on the recond job of doing.... But right in the middle of the creek ...changed horses..!!!



          Hate dat when I do dat...

          Last edited by Dragstews; 04-01-2014, 7:55 PM.
          Take my 45 and outrun em all ..

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          • guiltyview
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2012
            • 158

            #6
            for sale?

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            • Dragstews
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2010
              • 13739

              #7
              Originally posted by guiltyview
              for sale?
              Not understanding the question....

              The OEM Polished Rods may be for sale....

              Kinda moved up the ladder on what parts to run...

              [IMG][/IMG]

              And No.... That rusty shaft is not one of them...
              Last edited by Dragstews; 04-04-2014, 12:35 PM.
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              • Dragstews
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2010
                • 13739

                #8
                Have a world of parts coming in today.... wanting to get the Heads together and work my way down from there...

                That turn into a chore.... The OG Rocker housings was sent to the platers for some shiny... They didn't like them being the Old sand cast had many pot holes... On this order that I will see today are new ones... They are pressure casted... Hoping that they will be chromable...
                Take my 45 and outrun em all ..

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                • Dragstews
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2010
                  • 13739

                  #9
                  Bring y'all up to speed on this build...

                  The heads turned into a chore to do...

                  Had to go to oversize valves on the intakes and do seat replacements on the exhaust...

                  Made up a fixture to allow doing this work in a head machine..



                  Made the spinning of tools easier

                  Chase all threads and found one that needed a Heil-Coil...



                  Exhaust seats went in good and was cut ...

                  The cuts went down without a lot of hand work...



                  Packing the springs for a Leineweber cam is going well...



                  Soon the heads will be done and set aside for a little while until the lower end is worked over...

                  Did the jugs a while back got some more work to do on the gasket surface due to rust...

                  They had been bored to .030 over.... I wanted to get a set of .060 pistons so as all the bad would be bored out ...
                  The owner wanted to try to bore them to .040...

                  Would not clear at the .040 over, had to go to the .060 and that was close being there was a belly in the ware of one jug...



                  The cut in the below photo was at .050, You can see the ware that it had...



                  Took a few light cuts just to see at what speck it did clean up at...

                  Below is .056 over...



                  Was very close and the rust had a big bite on the bore too...

                  Did manage to get under the rust...




                  Got around to doing the balance job on the crank....



                  Also did the match on the recip. wieghts of both Rod/Piston combos...



                  Had a 10 gram spread being the rear was heavier.... Took off the 10 grams by removing 5 from the piston and 5 from the rod...

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                  Wheels are drilled and just a few more needed parts will have all that is needed for assembly of them...



                  Do have the need for using the shafts for fitting the bearings to both case bushings, so can't lock and load just yet until that chore is done...
                  Then the wheels can be trued...
                  Last edited by Dragstews; 05-31-2014, 4:08 PM.
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                  • Dragstews
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2010
                    • 13739

                    #10
                    Made a choice on the Carb to run....

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                    Just for looks will be doing dual bowls...

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                    Last edited by Dragstews; 06-05-2014, 7:33 PM.
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                    • nuklhd
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2013
                      • 1248

                      #11
                      nice motor. put some sauce on those short ribs.
                      in one post it says you bought a set of 3 1/2" stroke t&o flywheels. in another it says you picked up a new set with stock stroke. will you use the 3 5/16 set?
                      Last edited by nuklhd; 06-06-2014, 4:04 AM.

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                      • Dragstews
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2010
                        • 13739

                        #12
                        Originally posted by nuklhd
                        nice motor. put some sauce on those short ribs.
                        in one post it says you bought a set of 3 1/2" stroke t&o flywheels. in another it says you picked up a new set with stock stroke. will you use the 3 5/16 set?
                        The stock stroke for the EL models is 3-1/2"

                        As bad as I wanted to add more stroke to this build, I was told to go back stock (By the Owner) Did shave off a few pounds of weight off the left wheel...

                        Been waiting for a box of chrome to show up that I sent off...
                        It made it back today...



                        Gave me something to do...





                        Take my 45 and outrun em all ..

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                        • nuklhd
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2013
                          • 1248

                          #13
                          jeez, i sure mixed the bore and stroke up huh. should be a nice running motor when your done. what is it going in? all stock bits and pieces?

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                          • Dragstews
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2010
                            • 13739

                            #14
                            Originally posted by nuklhd

                            should be a nice running motor when your done. what is it going in? all stock bits and pieces?

                            This................

                            Take my 45 and outrun em all ..

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                            • nuklhd
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2013
                              • 1248

                              #15
                              thats sharp as shit.

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