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    Default How to: Get that death trap legal

    So I'm sure someone has posted this somewhere but I just wanted to bring it up again since it worked for me today.
    Have PO write up a bill of sale for one pile of shit:
    Fill out one of these, can be gotten online TA-VD-119 http://dmv.vermont.gov/forms/drivers

    Make sure you use the NADA value for taxes.
    And get one of these:


    Now you maybe asking, hey dummy, I don't live in Vermont, why are you showing me this? Well I'll tell you, you rude prick, because through the magic of the postal service this works for out the state Jerks like yourself. Just mail the form in with the bill of sale and a check and you should get a plate back in a few weeks. The reason this works is because Vermont doesn't issue titles after 15 years, just registrations and doesn't have a residency requirement.
    Once you get the plates you need to get the vin checked by a cop but that doesn't have to be in Vermont then you will get the permanent registration. From here you can just run the green plate or take it into your dmv and get it registered in your home state. Just make sure they understand Vermont doesn’t do titles on old shit.
    Now for the disclaimer, I've seen this shit before and have known about it for a while but today I confirmed it with the lady at the dmv. Now she could be dead wrong but what she told me about allowing out of staters to plate vehicles pretty much lines up with what I have read on the interwebs.
    So to sum it all up, pay Vermont their due and they could give a fuck.
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    This will actually work in alot of states. No title required after 25 years in ga either.

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    Just to be clear you don't need a vermont address to reg the vehicle

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    From what I've read, heard from the chick at the dmv and seen in person (met a Canadian a few months back on a ricerocket that had green plate but lived in Quebec) that it works.
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    Cooool!

    Thanks for this.

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    http://dmv.vermont.gov/sites/dmv/fil..._Title_App.pdf

    Direct link to the form for anyone grumbling that it wasn't handed to you and had to take 3 seconds to find it (Me.)


    So let's say for the sake of argument, I want to get a title with this, once I reregister it in my state or whatever, do I just apply for a lost title or is one issued with the new registration?
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    When you re-register it, if your state does titles they would just cut a new one and send it to you. You figure every time you buy or sell a vehicle or move to the state the dmv prints up a new title and charges you at least $50, this really isn't any different.
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    Good shit Ato -- I'm in the process of doing this with an old van, and meant to write something up, but I had no idea my frosty Queeb brethren would actually mail you a licence plate out of state.

    To add to this -- if you live in a state which *REQUIRES* a title to register a vehicle, you take:
    1) the paperwork from Vermont, along with
    2) the form below, which shows (under "Vermont Titles" on page 2") that VT doesn't issue titles for vehicles older than 15 years

    And you go into your local DMV, saying you just moved there and you'd like to get your car/bike legal.
    They may make you get it inspected (like here in Louisiana) and they may not. Either way, you're better off.

    http://dmv.vermont.gov/sites/dmv/fil...pplication.pdf

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    Thanks for the extra info. I just realized I put 25 years not 15, I'll correct that. Also if the bike is under 300cc there seems to be no year require from what I read on the dmv website.
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    Awesome, just awesome. gonna have to try this.
    What about insurance? Does VT require proof of insurance at time of issuing license plate?
    What are the fees for doing this?

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    Nope, they didn't ask me shit about insurance. They made me do the NADA value on the xs since I didn't have a dealer appraisal. In total or was $90, $44 of that was for the reg.

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    So when i fill it out and do i put poor nada values and 6% did you send the check with the reg. or do you wait for a letter to be sent back then send them the money.

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    You send the check with the form.

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    Here is where I originally found out about this trick. http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=655441
    You can read a bunch of stories here from around the country and maybe learn a few tricks along the way to make it smoother. The thread is a few years old so there is a lot of posts, but is regularly being updated with success stories.

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    I love you.

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    Got damn, I've got a 1959 150cc Vespa that I've had sit in pieces in my house for the past 11-12 years and have just never wanted to title it because I knew it would be such a pain in the ass without a bill of sale. The guy I got it off ended up doing a shit ton of drugs while I was down in Florida and I never saw him again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SevenxTemp View Post
    Got damn, I've got a 1959 150cc Vespa that I've had sit in pieces in my house for the past 11-12 years and have just never wanted to title it because I knew it would be such a pain in the ass without a bill of sale. The guy I got it off ended up doing a shit ton of drugs while I was down in Florida and I never saw him again.
    Couldn't you just "sell it" to a buddy and then "buy it" back from him thus having him write a bill of sale?

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    Genius! I wonder if this loophole would work for bikes that owe back fees, in California there are always good deals popping up in the $500 range but because some idiot let the registration lapse there's like $800 in back fees.

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    As long as you keep the green plate and have nothing to do with California I bet it might, but not sure what would happen if you got pulled over and they ran the vin.
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    May be worth giving it a try I keep seeing old sub 600cc bikes popping up that would be perfect for my wife.

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