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    I'm from NY and was wondering how I see alotta guys riding around with new bikes without turn signals on their chops (which I plan on doing). I thought if it came with it stock, you had to have them on it for inspection. Thanks in advance!

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    NY myself and I heard the same far as if it came with them you must run turn signals. Now i know that if you have an "in" you can still pass NYSI cause as long as you use your hand signals the cops wont bug you atleast around my area

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    I never ran em, don't drive like an asshole and never had a problem

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    the ama website has a list of motorcycle laws like this on there website state by state. http://www.americanmotorcyclist.com/...aspx?stateid=4

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    pretty sure NY is something like 72+ must have. where i get my inspections, they never turn the bike on and check, just a quick walk around so i just used some double sided tape and stuck a set of those flush led sportbike type on for the insp then pulled them back off. i have never had a problem with police using hand signals. long island here....

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    I live in Ride in Brooklyn with no turn signals and have never had a problem. I think the advice of not riding like an asshole goes a long way.

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    Thanks guys yea Im up here near Rochester, I don't ride like a dick so shouldnt be a big deal I'll do stick-ons for inspection too.

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    yeah the difference between NYC and up here is the cops got nothing better to do around here, unless you have a "guy" to get ya a sticker, chances are your gonna be running wires, flashers and switches and shit to get ya some flashing lights to get said sticker, i always had the idea to make a quick on quick off set up to throw on each year for the inspection.

    the chances off you getting pulled over because they dont see signals are slim, however, not seeing the right color sticker is an easy way to run you through the system, not riding like an asshole goes a long way but what you deem an asshole and a cop meeting a quota are not always the same thing, a chopped up, garage custom bike could snowball into quite a few "saftey infractions" if the guy wants to be a dick, also you have to look out for bike specific inspection stops. im local to you so i know the area and they have done them around here

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    i thought the cut off was in the 70s too, but just got the new showclass calendar and it says 85+ are required............ beats me

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    Technically you need them by law and for inspection. As mentioned above, if you have an in at an inspection station you may be able to pass without them. I too ride in Brooklyn and my previous bike didnt have signals and vertically mounted plate which are both illegal. I got my bike inspected at Indian Larry's shop where thy build bikes that aren't street legal either. All they did was make sure I didnt have anything looking janky on the bike and all normal safety items suchs as brakes, drivetrain etc looked in good working order. On the flipside I tried to get my bike inspected at another shop once before and they flat our failed me right away.

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    Yea I hear ya I'm gonna run a quick on-off set up for inspection, I'm out in the stix anyways so the cops here don't even know their own laws, so I prolly would never get pulled, more askin about inspection. And I ride low key on main roads, don't draw undue attention to myself.

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    Your bike needs them 72 and up unless the model never had them up to 1985. Take an xlch or r serial number triumph for example

    As said. Don't drive like an asshole in the city and cops will leave you alone. Suburbs though you'll be fucked either way.
    My advice for suburb guys is small or led signals mounted somewhere where they don't stick out. Also make sure you get a pink my little pony horn from toys r us and zip tie that bad boy on there.

    Also baffles/mufflers. Use the letter of the law to your advantage here. Use a lollipop (bolt with a washer welded to it at the end of your pipe). It not only technically defines a baffle it makes it impossible to the cops to stick that sound measuring device in your pipe, therefore not giving them any real evidence to charge you with. Since I hate this state here's some more advice. If you chop a Harley that has frame numbers and use a different frame keep that frame and use it again. You need to only insure and register one of those bikes and they both will be "legal". Just switch the plate when you ride one. Use an inspection sticker bolt on plate and switch that too. Have a bike with no papers? Do not get it bonded. Make sure the numbers are clear and sell it to someone on paper in Maine (you'll find someone who does this trust me). He registers it in Maine which requires no title and will sell it back to you along with a paper from Maine that every other state must treat as a title.

    Fuck this state. Every hour you work close to 8 percent of your hourly is going to welfare. Just because you can't pop out 8 kids from 8 different fathers sit home and watch opera on a 60 inch We paid for and drop the kids off at daycare in an escalade we paid for doesn't mean we can't fuck this state too

    ***remember your average DMV employee doesn't care and is stupid. You can pull off some serious Andy Dufraine motorcycle identity shit in this state and make it legal with the right paperwork. I can walk you through making a 62 hd keep its transferable registration with s and s case numbers or merely inventing a 50s EL number by switching the place of a letter and number (whoops typographic error and since that number never existed its clean) just don't go entering it at a AMA show and all will be just fine
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    Yea man I just got out of the USMC and as soon as I'm done with school (for welding) I'm the fuck out of this socialist hellhole. Thanks for the advice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by backwithabang View Post
    Your bike needs them 72 and up unless the model never had them up to 1985. Take an xlch or r serial number triumph for example

    As said. Don't drive like an asshole in the city and cops will leave you alone. Suburbs though you'll be fucked either way.
    My advice for suburb guys is small or led signals mounted somewhere where they don't stick out. Also make sure you get a pink my little pony horn from toys r us and zip tie that bad boy on there.

    Also baffles/mufflers. Use the letter of the law to your advantage here. Use a lollipop (bolt with a washer welded to it at the end of your pipe). It not only technically defines a baffle it makes it impossible to the cops to stick that sound measuring device in your pipe, therefore not giving them any real evidence to charge you with. Since I hate this state here's some more advice. If you chop a Harley that has frame numbers and use a different frame keep that frame and use it again. You need to only insure and register one of those bikes and they both will be "legal". Just switch the plate when you ride one. Use an inspection sticker bolt on plate and switch that too. Have a bike with no papers? Do not get it bonded. Make sure the numbers are clear and sell it to someone on paper in Maine (you'll find someone who does this trust me). He registers it in Maine which requires no title and will sell it back to you along with a paper from Maine that every other state must treat as a title.

    Fuck this state. Every hour you work close to 8 percent of your hourly is going to welfare. Just because you can't pop out 8 kids from 8 different fathers sit home and watch opera on a 60 inch We paid for and drop the kids off at daycare in an escalade we paid for doesn't mean we can't fuck this state too

    ***remember your average DMV employee doesn't care and is stupid. You can pull off some serious Andy Dufraine motorcycle identity shit in this state and make it legal with the right paperwork. I can walk you through making a 62 hd keep its transferable registration with s and s case numbers or merely inventing a 50s EL number by switching the place of a letter and number (whoops typographic error and since that number never existed its clean) just don't go entering it at a AMA show and all will be just fine
    You my friend sound like a wizard, and I like it! I know there's more than one way to skin a cat but hadn't thought of some of the things you brought up. Something I've been curious about is if I register my bike to New Jersey would that do away with the need for an inspection?? Is it "legal"?

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    Well I'm in the stix to, in finger lakes area and the don't ride like an asshole is true for our area. There is alot of cops in the area that ride so I don't get bothered...better knock on woood now. Far as the exhaust...well I'm running a 2-1 with no baffllesand haven't had the man even look at me going by.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tattoo2303 View Post
    You my friend sound like a wizard, and I like it! I know there's more than one way to skin a cat but hadn't thought of some of the things you brought up. Something I've been curious about is if I register my bike to New Jersey would that do away with the need for an inspection?? Is it "legal"?
    You can ride a bike in nys with other plates and they can't subject you to nys laws. Same with a car. When I lived in Chicago I kept my expired nys Reggie and plates and they couldn't do shit to me. Nor did I have to pay any parking tickets because my license was still from ny so I had no need to go to their DMV. Look no farther than uhaul every truck they have is registered in Arizona. That is because they don't need to inspect them in that state so they can be rolling death traps and often are

    Just know your laws. Find loopholes. I was pre-law in college. Just became a vagrant instead. NY has a bunch of "tough" laws but they are relatively plastic and easy to get around. Also boys... If your old lady has any evidence you banged a gal out of state it's not admissible in nys divorce court. Sure you'll still get divorced but she may not get everything you own
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    I know this doesnt matter in NY but in texas, if you got them they ahve to work, if you dont, well you dont.

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    I'm in NY too, Albany area.

    I've had sportbikes in the past, and got my dick busted for no mirrors and vertical plate mounts. I acutally got pulled over TWO times on the Northway on my way to work for the SAME things (mirrors and plate)

    My 67 is my first chop, and honestly I thought about paying a little extra to get "Historical" plates. Figured the cops wouldn't want to waste their time on me and my no turn signals. I'm paranoid because the numbers on the case don't match the frame, though it's titled and they are both clean.

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    There is no "law" against a vertical plate yet other than it having to be on the left side and have a light that I know of. But I know that's changing and I think you can actually have the plate printed vertically now for an extra cost. But a cop can pull you over for not being able to "read" the plate well and that will hold up and give him reason to nail you for everything else he wants. There will be a shitload of changes and stricter inspections next season due to the insane number of accidents, deaths, Ect in NYS in the past year

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    Im in NY too (Lake George area) and we get harassed for every little thing up this way by the state police. County cops rarely give a shit, but the state boys have some power trip once they got you pulled over i guess they figure they might as well write you for everything he can.

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