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Old 06-28-2012   #1
 
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Titling a 66' Harley

So, I've ran into a bit of a dilema. I came across a craigslist ad for a 1966 Sportster 900. The frame is from 1966 with a 1972 motor. Needs a complete overhaul but the engine is free and transmission seems to be sound. The guy was asking $1800, talked him down to $1300

He has a title for 66' frame, and a title for the 72' motor. The title for the frame is clear, no leans and could be titled in my name. I could not find any VIN # on the frame, so I couldn't match it with the title. The motor's title has no leans, but was signed by someone as the "purchaser". So the motor is titled in someone's name, and on the back of the title, was purchased from another individual. So basically, I cannot be the purchaser of the motor as it has already been sold to someone else.

I have had this problem in the past with another bike. According to the Wisconsin Department of Motor Vehicles, it is illegal to skip a purchaser. As in, I could not get the bike titled in my name as it had someone else's signature as the "purchaser" on the title. I had to track down the person who was the rightful owner of the bike and have them get a re-print of the original title.

Im not sure if there is another way around dealing with this.

Anyone have any words of advice? Or should I pass on this clusterfuck?
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Due to the year of the two titles, and what you have explained I would pass. I could elaborate, but my past experience tells me walk away, there will be other deals. My .02¢
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Unless it is Special Construction title,, there is no such thing as a 1966 titled HD frame,,at that time the title went with the motor

also you can get a running sporty for 1800,,pass this one by
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Due to the year of the two titles, and what you have explained I would pass. I could elaborate, but my past experience tells me walk away, there will be other deals. My .02¢
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Unless it is Special Construction title,, there is no such thing as a 1966 titled HD frame,,at that time the title went with the motor

also you can get a running sporty for 1800,,pass this one by
Thank you!
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yea the 1300 sounds reasonable..but like they said 66 wouldnt have a title the 72 motor would though..seems odd..sucks though at 1300 if it was all legit it would be nice!
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yea the 1300 sounds reasonable..but like they said 66 wouldnt have a title the 72 motor would though..seems odd..sucks though at 1300 if it was all legit it would be nice!
The 72 motor would not,,1970 up title goes with frame,,,Pre 1970 title goes with motor

Someone should make s sticky for this to help folks out
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err yea..damnit..i meant well but i fuct it up also!so with that in mind..he basically has 2 worthless titles?!im intruiged now how this would unfold..hmm..i guess he would have to get the title for the 72 engine and then maybe have the frame titled and stamped to match??
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I have a 62 frame with a 68 ironhead motor and both numbers are on my title.
I was worried when I first bought it because it seemed strange - but dmv told me it wasn't so odd - and that adding a number was not a big deal when something has been changed. I'm sure different states have different issues though - for 1300 - I'd buy it.....

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I have a 62 frame with a 68 ironhead motor and both numbers are on my title.
I was worried when I first bought it because it seemed strange - but dmv told me it wasn't so odd - and that adding a number was not a big deal when something has been changed. I'm sure different states have different issues though - for 1300 - I'd buy it.....
??????????? 62 frames had no numbers

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err yea..damnit..i meant well but i fuct it up also!so with that in mind..he basically has 2 worthless titles?!im intruiged now how this would unfold..hmm..i guess he would have to get the title for the 72 engine and then maybe have the frame titled and stamped to match??


1903-1969 Harley Only title the motor,, the # on the motor must match the title

1970 - up the VIN is stamped into the frame , that number must match the title

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??????????? 62 frames had no numbers





1903-1969 Harley Only title the motor,, the # on the motor must match the title

1970 - up the VIN is stamped into the frame , that number must match the title
my 72 has the VIN on motor title and frame.at any rate my comment isnt really helping anyone..for whatever reason i felt the need to add that

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??????????? 62 frames had no numbers





1903-1969 Harley Only title the motor,, the # on the motor must match the title

1970 - up the VIN is stamped into the frame , that number must match the title
Yeah - I wasn't thinking to mention - the title is still the 62 HD - but since the motor was changed - the 68 motor number was added- so it still is titled 62 , but has the new motor number on it - Your right though - no numbers on my frame - Thats why I was confused about the #'s when I bought it .
I might add - at the dmv here - things can go real smooth - so I can see the last guy who owned it walking in and just adding new motor number with no problem - why they didn't remove the old number is beyond me - but hey it works !
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Yeah - I wasn't thinking to mention - the title is still the 62 HD - but since the motor was changed - the 68 motor number was added- so it still is titled 62 , but has the new motor number on it - Your right though - no numbers on my frame - Thats why I was confused about the #'s when I bought it .
I might add - at the dmv here - things can go real smooth - so I can see the last guy who owned it walking in and just adding new motor number with no problem - why they didn't remove the old number is beyond me - but hey it works !

I would LOVE to deal with your DMV people, , all things should be so easy
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