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Old 05-12-2012   #1
 
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Welder Question

I'm picking up a small 115v stick welder, not going to be making a frame with it, just some fender mounts, making clutch and brake rods for my forward controls, fender struts, small brackets and such. The one I'm looking at is 115v, 70 amp, and says it can do 1/8th inch, which is probably all I would need it for. I assume a 115v into a 120v outlet is fine?

The problem is, in my garage a small space heater made the whole outlet feel hot to the touch. Garage only has 120v hookups. It seems though that the outlets outside the house would suffice, as we've ran a pressure washer on one for hours and didn't notice anything. But I've ran other power tools such as grinder and saws and stuff and never had a problem with the outlet. If it over heated the outlet could I run a strong extension cord from the outside outlet?

Just don't want to buy a welder and not be able to use it without burning the house down.
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yes, that will plug into a normal outlet just fine. You will prolly have top run short beads to not trip a breaker, but otherise it will be fine.

Heaters are gnarly, and use a TON of current. Over a 2 hour period, of normal use of a welder and a heater running the whole time, the heater will use a tone more energy than the welder. I had a small heater for my dog one winter and my electric bills went thru the roof. You could watch the meter speed up the second you plugged the thing in. Like 50% faster.


But you are gonna have a hard time using a stick welder for small detail parts like that. Money would be better spent on a cheap mig.
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I'd love to get a good quality welder, but my chop is going to be on a pretty tight budget. Couple years and another build, hopefully.
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Whatch the classifieds for a month,I got a very lightly used one this winter for a good price,have seen a few for a good price,try to get a mig,.
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Dirtbag is right. Doing those things with a stick welder will be tough. Depending on how much you're paying for it, a harbor freight cheaply is probably a better bet.
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check out the real gear usa welders sold from gts welco
theyre much better than the harbor freight stuff
Hell I like my real gear usa tig better than my old miller tig that I had

they are very affordable both their mig welders and tig welders

dont even bother with the stick welders the stuff will come out too rough
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Cosmetically a TIG machine would be optimum but a MIG machine would be fine for what you plan on doing.

Both methods are easier to control (heat, penetration, and apperance) than a stick welder but also typically more expensive.

BillyT did a great job with answering your voltage question, Just use the machine for short periods of time.

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check out the real gear usa welders sold from gts welco
theyre much better than the harbor freight stuff
Hell I like my real gear usa tig better than my old miller tig that I had

they are very affordable both their mig welders and tig welders

dont even bother with the stick welders the stuff will come out too rough
Just looked these up, saving up for one of their TIG welders now! Thanks.
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I saw a wire feed gasless mig at a pawnshop for like $120, but it only had a high or low setting and I think a variable controll would probably be better?
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I saw a wire feed gasless mig at a pawnshop for like $120, but it only had a high or low setting and I think a variable controll would probably be better?
yeah dont go for a gasless either
get something that has a gas hookup
what is your budget that your looking to spend ?
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this piece here is honestly very hard to beat at this price
if your gonna go with a 115v machine I would go with this one
http://www.gts-welco.com/gts-welco.aspx?pcid=263&ptid=1

for a few more dollars you can get this one which has some little extras like the cart, and cover etc.
http://www.gts-welco.com/gts-welco.aspx?pcid=352&ptid=1

I have the bigger version in the 220v version and it works just as good as my Lincoln Mig Welder does ( I have the Real Gear at my shop, and the Lincoln at my dads place)

also these come with a warranty that GTS-Welco has its a no questions asked warranty if something is wrong with it for some reason they replace it
simple as that

if you wanted to get into tig welding this is the way to go right here

http://www.gts-welco.com/gts-welco.aspx?pcid=358&ptid=1

I have this machine in my shop also it replaced my gigantic miller syncrowave because I was getting tight on room,
this is a great machine if your not gonna do aluminum work
works with a foot pedal and is strong enough to do any work associated with building bikes or cars
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yeah dont go for a gasless either
get something that has a gas hookup
what is your budget that your looking to spend ?
My budget is around $150, think I could get a decent used welder for that.

I'm not doing any major fab work so I dont really need a tig or anything that will look super nice, just some brackets and stuff.
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My budget is around $150, think I could get a decent used welder for that.

I'm not doing any major fab work so I dont really need a tig or anything that will look super nice, just some brackets and stuff.
I think its gonna be tough for your at that price to be honest
if you do find anything its gonna be a low amperage machine that you will outgrow immediately as soon as you get the hang of welding

or a gas less machine which really aint all that great either

but definitely hunt around if you find anything online feel free to pm me the info I'll tell you what I think of it
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Welders

Why not just go with a gas welding setup? You can pick them up relatively cheap, and really cheap if you go used. Some people think the learning curve is steeper, although I don't agree.

I was considering buying one when I didn't have a way to power an electric welder, still considering one now, except for the fact that I only live 10 miles from my old man now, and he has good stick, mig, and tig welders, and I'm too lazy to try to re-figure out gas welding.

If you find the right place, your cost in gas would probably be less than what you'll pay in electricity, plus it's ultra portable and you can leave your space heater plugged in. Way wider range of material thicknesses that you can use it on, too. Plus you can cut, heat, and form parts with it.
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I saw a wire feed gasless mig at a pawnshop for like $120, but it only had a high or low setting and I think a variable controll would probably be better?
I had used a few cheapo welders, both with variable, & only a high low, was never impressed, however, I started a second job at a garage, & the only welder the guy had is a harbor freight welder, gasless, with high low, I will say this one impressed me. I figured I would refuse, or go get my welder from home, however, it did its part.

it was on a dedicated circuit, with a 20 amp breaker, & once I got it adjusted, it layed some nice decent welds most of the time. however sometimes, it still was a pain, & maybe it was ground clamp? but it would skip, & wire feed wouldnt run right, but I burned through 2 full small spools of wire this week, plus what was on machine, & last night I just got started on another.
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