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  • JMFNC
    Senior Member
    • May 2011
    • 1559

    #16
    Changing up a logo to suit your needs is a skateboard tradition that Steve Rocco and the world industries empire made millions from. Of all the cease and desist letters they got (which is about all this lawsuit is going to result in), the threat of broken legs by HA over an image of chocolate george riding with a hippy chick they altered for a Rodney Mullen graphic was the only one that had them worried. Maybe HA will get some money out of Viacom but my bet is this will only end in a cease and desist.

    Also, HA handling this thru legal channels is a smart move to strengthen their stance that they are a club of motorcycle enthusiasts and not a criminal empire. Get it?
    Last edited by JMFNC; 04-26-2012, 10:46 PM. Reason: Thinking chair

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    • CRFyou
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2010
      • 5468

      #17
      Imagine if Black Flag sued all the people that poached their bars....

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      • ironhead86
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2011
        • 576

        #18
        If you have a patent on something then I understand which they do. and as far as being "not intelligent" In your opinion you are the ignorant ones. We don't live in the days of the old You either ADAPT OR DIE and for them to adapt is smart and logical as a business person. I can't beat the shit out of someone in the parking lot at work like we use to everyday so we adapted and continue to grow.

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        • JMFNC
          Senior Member
          • May 2011
          • 1559

          #19
          Originally posted by CRFyou
          Imagine if Black Flag sued all the people that poached their bars....
          Imagine money spent on black flag cd's and merch went to more band members than just Greg ginn.

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          • rodbuster86
            • Apr 2024

            #20
            Originally posted by ironhead86
            If you have a patent on something then I understand which they do. and as far as being "not intelligent" In your opinion you are the ignorant ones. We don't live in the days of the old You either ADAPT OR DIE and for them to adapt is smart and logical as a business person. I can't beat the shit out of someone in the parking lot at work like we use to everyday so we adapted and continue to grow.
            While I think you are absolutely right I also think there is a certain image of the HA. A image that they would like the general public to respect and I'm not sure a public court case like this helps. They walk a fine line and maybe they did approach them before filing papers but I can't help but think that if the secretary got a call saying so-and-so from the Hells Angels wanted to speak with Rob that there would have been immediate importance placed on the call. Some things we don't need to know and this might be one of those. Who knows maybe that call was made and got no traction.

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            • ThePete
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2011
              • 2732

              #21
              Originally posted by CRFyou
              Imagine if Black Flag sued all the people that poached their bars....
              I'd settle for a Rollins beat down, Hell if Danzig can take it so can I, I'm sure I'm a hell of a lot tougher than Glen. I'm too broke to sue anyways.



              I was contemplating the next repaint of my bike and rather than do a racing stripe I was going to make the strip going down the fenders a continuing series of bars off set in the same manor, course there would be a whole lot more than just 4 by the time it got done. Might look cool, or I may just end up scrubbing that off too.
              Last edited by ThePete; 04-27-2012, 12:19 AM.

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              • Hooligan80
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2010
                • 5234

                #22
                Originally posted by rodbuster86
                While I think you are absolutely right I also think there is a certain image of the HA. A image that they would like the general public to respect and I'm not sure a public court case like this helps. They walk a fine line and maybe they did approach them before filing papers but I can't help but think that if the secretary got a call saying so-and-so from the Hells Angels wanted to speak with Rob that there would have been immediate importance placed on the call. Some things we don't need to know and this might be one of those. Who knows maybe that call was made and got no traction.
                It does help since they went a legal route instead of going in and busting heads. It's not like Y&R went and modified a band logo or a skate logo, but they did it with a well known outlaw MC logo and it could have had disastrous or deadly repercussions considering the fact that it's well known that rival clubs have sometimes bloody and deadly confrontations. To someone in a rival club that doesn't know that Y&R is just a clothing brand that ignorantly ripped off the HA logo could end horribly for some kid that just bought the shirt because it looked cool and ended up in the wrong place at the wrong time. Rivalries are real and shit does happen. Better to openly deal with this, because maybe rival clubs will happen to see this and not mistake the shirt for some kind of club support merch, but just a shirt from a company that some idiot "graphic designer" copied a logo for.

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                • Hooligan80
                  Senior Member
                  • Jul 2010
                  • 5234

                  #23
                  Originally posted by CRFyou
                  Imagine if Black Flag sued all the people that poached their bars....
                  Big difference between tattooing a band logo on you and wearing the insignia of a well known outlaw club. The band tattoo won't get you fucked up. I have a Crimson Ghost tattoo on my hand, but I wouldn't get the colors of a club tattooed on me that I don't belong to.

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                  • TyroninFXR
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 766

                    #24
                    Originally posted by 24Cycles
                    Saw that earlier

                    That truely is reckless youth
                    word

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                    • ThePete
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2011
                      • 2732

                      #25
                      Even if I were ever be in part of some outlaw club I don't think I get anything tattooed on me it's nice and easy to be identified is walking probable cause.


                      Sent from the glory hole.

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                      • CRFyou
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2010
                        • 5468

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Hooligan80
                        Big difference between tattooing a band logo on you and wearing the insignia of a well known outlaw club. The band tattoo won't get you fucked up. I have a Crimson Ghost tattoo on my hand, but I wouldn't get the colors of a club tattooed on me that I don't belong to.
                        I wasn't talking about band tattoos at all. I have a Strung Out Astrolux.

                        I was talking about the same exact thing with the HA logo. Designers designing and what not.

                        Here's Allen's badass flyer for a ride we went on.

                        I'm on the motorcycle on the far right.

                        Bing Bong!!

                        rideabove 1

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                        • ThePete
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2011
                          • 2732

                          #27
                          Yeah I remember seeing that flyer, thought it was pretty bad ass.


                          Sent from the glory hole.

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                          • Hooligan80
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2010
                            • 5234

                            #28
                            Originally posted by CRFyou
                            I wasn't talking about band tattoos at all. I have a Strung Out Astrolux.

                            I was talking about the same exact thing with the HA logo. Designers designing and what not.

                            Here's Allen's badass flyer for a ride we went on.

                            I'm on the motorcycle on the far right.

                            Bing Bong!!

                            rideabove 1
                            I don't think Henry Rollins would come out to your work or house and pay you a business visit over stealing his old band logo. And his band logo wouldn't possibly get you beaten or killed.

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                            • Gunterjaeger
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2012
                              • 104

                              #29
                              I seen this a while ago. Fuckin chooches! Im glad. They need to sue these wanna be faggot nigger bitches

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                              • BillySlicks
                                Senior Member
                                • Sep 2009
                                • 415

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Gunterjaeger
                                I seen this a while ago. Fuckin chooches! Im glad. They need to sue these wanna be faggot nigger bitches
                                The award for most homophobic and racist comment in this thread goes to......

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