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Old 05-01-2012   #41
 
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The chinese make what you tell them to make. The problems not the manufactuer, it's the people that outsource it. If you take some worn out piece of junk part and tell them to make a million of these for a buck a piece and don't worry about quality, thats what they do. Where do you think the machinery that makes the good stuff was made? The orient
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That's why designs should be patented,trademarked and copyrighted.
Dennis Goodson's designs were patented, his patent numbers are inside the shells. The guy who knocked them off changed them (you don't even have to change them 20% or more anymore, it's down to 10-15%, depending on what you're copying) by first pulling the pattern off of Dennis' aircleaner parts (that's why "those" are physically bigger), eliminating the "vents" in the front, putting a little "fin" on each end of Dennis' center rib, and changing the mounting for the shell from each end of the shell, to the back of each end of the shell. That was enough to get his own brand-new patent on the knockoff. Nothing Dennis could do about it, and when Dennis' lawyer was going after the guy, the US Patent Office more or less said "Tuff shit, he got a patent on it from us, the design was changed enough, it's all legal".

It's nice to talk about patents, trademarks, and copyrights, but how many guys like Dennis Goodson, Fab Kevin, and the countless other small-time guys in this business that we all know have been jacked for their hard work and smarts, have the time and financial backing to afford a fight for their designs and patents in an international patent court that can take years to go through, and aren't able to get injunctions against the pirates to stop manufacturing their goods while they fight it? C'mon, let's get real on this. I barf every time i see somebody say "Well, they should have had a patent......".
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Old 05-02-2012   #43
 
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wow, I didn't know that the patent situation is that shitty at the moment.
10-15% to change on a product isn't that much.

I think thats a real good reason to buy the original part and not the copied one.
And this is not a matter of the country the product was made in.

thank you rich for bringing in this clear and objective information.

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