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Old 06-28-2011   #1
 
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What makes the sportster sport so great???

I know they have duel plug heads, fancy shocks and a hot cam in the early ones. Are they any better than the usual 1200. Who really gives a shit about shocks anyway. I'm thinking about buying one but I'm also thinking about buying an 883 for way less and working it out on my own. Are there pros and cons to the sport? Thanks

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I dont know nothing about anything past 1984 but you can get a ironhead chop for buck ass cheap and build the motor to make raw power.And the guys riding 30,000 dollar bikes will comment "wow nice panhead" lmao
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"wow nice panhead"
Hahaa someone said that to me once. I was on a Yamaha xs650 Chop
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Hahaa someone said that to me once. I was on a Yamaha xs650 Chop
i GET THAT ALL the damn time when im on my shovel or flattie.People usually cant tell if its a honda,hd,yamaha even if there riding a hd.
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I rode an 03 Custom 1200 a little a few years ago. It was ok but nothing like the 99 Sport I bought a few weeks ago. Like night and day. It does have some kinda slip on open pipes with the crossover tube and a K &N filter but shitfire man, that damn thing runs like a spotted ape! Lopey idle sounds awesome too.......
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I rode an 03 Custom 1200 a little a few years ago. It was ok but nothing like the 99 Sport I bought a few weeks ago. Like night and day. It does have some kinda slip on open pipes with the crossover tube and a K &N filter but shitfire man, that damn thing runs like a spotted ape! Lopey idle sounds awesome too.......
I love mine. It is the SMOOTHEST sportster there is. At 80mph there is almost zero vibration in the bars. handling is really nice as well. I think next to the FXR its the best bike Harley ever made.
It definitely feels a LOT faster than a standard 1200.
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not sure about this but my local indie told me they are geared differently as well and let me take a 1200 same year with the same mods for a spin to compare and it was noticeable 110%.

i can with ease pull wheelies with out clutching it, just roll in quickly snap it closed then back open do a little dance out back then wheel up. i can keep it up through the shift to second though i have to let out of it a little to keep it from flipping.

the gm map sensor used for the voes gives it a wide ass curve and with the multiple spark "no waste" ignition it performs. funnest bike Ive ever owned.

drag pipes, CV carb reworked a little (re jetted lighter spring different metering rod and an easy adjust), screaming eagle air filter (k&n). thats all thats done and the dyno said 92hp &96lbft of tq. at the wheel.

Ive raced my buddy in his heavily modded 98 cobra and an r6 with a ton of mods plus a little foger nitrous kit on it and from a dig i beat them by about a car length each but from about 40mph i can rev up and dump the clutch and put about 5 car lengths between us until i run out of gear and they fly by. i took the speedo off but I'm thinking i hit the rev limiter in 5th at about 115 120.

idk why but mine doesn't weigh 500lbs like it says, more like 430. also the dual discs upfront is bitchin. the 883 is a vibrator, the 1200 not as bad, the 1200s none especially under 3000. lopey idle is tough.

so get the 883 and i can enjoy this machine without everyone knowing why.

shitty pic but the only one i got on my phone...
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I know they have duel plug heads, fancy shocks and a hot cam in the early ones. Are they any better than the usual 1200. Who really gives a shit about shocks anyway. I'm thinking about buying one but I'm also thing about buying an 883 for way less and working it out on my own. Are there pros and cons to the sport? Thanks
Dual Plug high comp cylinder heads, fully adjustable forks with dual disc brakes, piggyback fully adjustable shocks, single fire ignition, better camshaft. They do vibrate just as much as any other sportster. Buy the S you wont be sorry.

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Dual Plug high comp cylinder heads, fully adjustable forks with dual disc brakes, piggyback fully adjustable shocks, single fire ignition, better camshaft. They do vibrate just as much as any other sportster. Buy the S you wont be sorry.
No, they don't vibrate as much, they are noticeably smoother.
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drag pipes, CV carb reworked a little (re jetted lighter spring different metering rod and an easy adjust), screaming eagle air filter (k&n). thats all thats done and the dyno said 92hp &96lbft of tq. at the wheel.

If thats all you've had done there is NO WAY you are making that kind of hp and tq to the rear wheel.

idk why but mine doesn't weigh 500lbs like it says, more like 430. also the dual discs upfront is bitchin. the 883 is a vibrator, the 1200 not as bad, the 1200s none especially under 3000. lopey idle is tough.

Trust me, your bike does not weigh 430lbs the way it sits in that picture. I've lightened the crap out of my S even with 17" wheels and radials and I'm still only at 460lbs.
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they do run the balls and i also agree with the above statement thats a lot of hp and not alot of work done
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The one I'm looking at is a 97. Single plug heads. It looks clean and has 10,000 on it.
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The sources I find says in stock trim it puts out 69 hp. The only down side to the sport that I had been told has to do with the ignition system.If it it needs replacing there are very few after market options available and those that exist are $$ and HD no longer makes the ignition. Just what I have been told..................prove this wrong and i might be on the look out for one too!!

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The sources I find says in stock trim it puts out 69 hp. The only down side to the sport that I had been told has to do with the ignition system.If it it needs replacing there are very few after market options available and those that exist are $$ and HD no longer makes the ignition. Just what I have been told..................prove this wrong and i might be on the look out for one too!!

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Wouldn't any single fire setup from the aftermarket work??
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Dual Plug high comp cylinder heads, fully adjustable forks with dual disc brakes, piggyback fully adjustable shocks, single fire ignition, better camshaft. They do vibrate just as much as any other sportster. Buy the S you wont be sorry.
This is exactly it. And as for the ignition, really it has a single fire module, with 2 dual fire coils (one trigger from the module to one coil, the other trigger to the second coil) making it one coil for the front cylinder, and one for the rear. Really no big tricks, just what someone would do to build a hot rod sporty themselves. As said, hotter cam, higher compression, and dual plugs. And to the OP, go ride one with the shocks dialed in correctly, and you won't say who cares about the suspension anymore. These things are little monsters, and crank in corners and twisties. Buy one, keep the suspension, and just do it up brat style or tracker style if you want to mod it up. Just like the FXR or the Dyna Sport, it is the baddest of bad in the sporty world.
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shocks

If you buy that bike ill take the shocks
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Something like this would rule.
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I turned my 883 Hugger into basically a 1250S. Swapped all the suspension/brakes and wheels off of an S model to mine. I of course didn't have the dual plugged heads but the p&p'd T-Storm heads, big cams and compression made up for it. Even with that the bike "only" made 90hp 90tq so a stocker with slip ons and a rejet is gonna be a little ...no alot less. No matter though even with 60-65hp it's about as fun as an h-d can get. Weighs nothing, easy to toss and the short wheelbase begs you to wheelie it. I love my fxdx but there's no reason I wouldn't rock another sporty if I had to. Buy it you won't hate it.
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437+- at the local scrap yard. maybe they have the scales rigged but i run aluminum hardware every where acceptable and a light battery. the dunlop 401s are lighter than the 404s for some reason.
also the dyno trailer at alamo harley is where ive dynoed it. its free what can i say. dont know how accurate it is but my power curve is all peaks and valleys till around 4k.

and with the torque cones the power band was smother but only produced 84hp and 90lbft took them out made a jet adjustment and 92.3hp & 96.4lbft tq was the result with no further tuning. idk...

im also not the original owner looks like it may have been wrecked at one point. but hey its a 1200s and they are the shit what can i say im not questioning it nor denying it. just riding the shit out of it.

i may have a video my girlfiend took on her cell phone so this dude can hear a 1200s' idle.
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