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74-77 FX. Henry Abe mag wheel. This is the correct rotor for the wheel.
What is the best way to get this issue resolved? (Without buying multiple rotors in the hope one fits.)Comment
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Build a rotor carrier. A circle of steel (kinda like a big washer), that has bolt holes to fit the hub, then drill 5 new holes on the carrier, that are half-way between the hub holes, drill and tap them to fit the rotor, can even have a lock nut on the backside. Done.If buildin' old school choppers was easy, anyone could do it... ain't nobody said it's gonna be easy...Comment
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It IS the correct rotor for the hub. How can I resolve this problem?
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Build a rotor carrier. A circle of steel (kinda like a big washer), that has bolt holes to fit the hub, then drill 5 new holes on the carrier, that are half-way between the hub holes, drill and tap them to fit the rotor, can even have a lock nut on the backside. Done.Comment
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The steel ring is the concept; just gotta be creative.
If you were to use 6061 or 7075 aluminum for the ring, it could be thicker, you could get a milling machine cut where each 'flange mount' is, so there is kinda an offset on each side...I can see it...but can't draw and post it.
Accurate measurements would allow the rotor to be in the same plane it was intended to be.
Further, guessing the replacement rotor may have metric spacing of holes, where the old
henry abe is good old american standard inches. Who was the supplier of your rotor?
The standard rotor bolt circle diameter for replacement rotors to fit the Harley, front or rear,
from Wildwood, for '84 - 2008, and 2008 up,
is 5 holes on a 3.25" bolt circle diameter.
Wilwood produces over 120 different rotor styles and diameters for street, racing and other high performance applications in standard, slotted and drilled and slotted styles.Motorcycle Rotor. Rotors are made of steel and carbon ceramic-matrix composites.
You said the rotor is for '74-'77 FX; these guys show bolt sizes at 1/4" for the front rotor during that period:
Fits Sportster and FX models 1974 thru 1977 front with single disc.
Rotor has 11.5" outer diameter and 1/4" countersunk mounting holes (OEM41807-74).
Maybe, just maybe, only you can know as you got it in your hands,
could the holes be enlarged to 5/16", which is common for the front for other years and model, slightly offsetting each one to fit all 5 holes?
Or even 3/8", as the front/rear of the '72-'78 FLH?
If buildin' old school choppers was easy, anyone could do it... ain't nobody said it's gonna be easy...Comment
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You can order a blank rotor of correct thickness, carry that and wheel (ask if they prefer it without the tire) to a machine shop then have them turn and drill the blank to match the exotic wheel.
The new rotor does not need the silly lobed center of the Sportster/FX rotor used on the Abe wheels and can be machined as a ring with ample support for the bolt holes. It will also cost more to machine a blank with mounting bolt lobes because they'd have to code the task and use CNC. Machine shops drill bolt circle patterns like that all the time and there is a function on any reasonably modern milling machine DRO to space the bolt holes given the correct inputs:
This video shows some of the common ways to layout and machine a bolt circle pattern. Several methods are show to calculate a bolt circle. The use of a Dig...
Online bolt circle calculator example: https://littlemachineshop.com/mobile/bolt_circle.php
Let your machine shop measure the Abe wheel bolt circle since they're doing the work, unless you have the equipment and want to give it a shot. For ass covering purposes it's worth remembering if the rotor ends up off center the rotor can be bolted to the (tireless) wheel then skimmed in a lathe, or on a mill using a rotary table. Should not be an issue with a machine shop but if you try it yourself having an exit is always nice.
Example blank rotor, measure the thickness of the stock replacement rotor.
A machine shop can grind a thicker rotor down a small amount on a surface grinder or a large amount (not desirable because costs more) using a Blanchard grinder. Worth knowing but don't expect to need it.
If you have other later rotors, lay your Sportster/FX style rotor that doesn't quite fit the Abe wheel over them and see if there's enough metal to machine out the center to match a ring the inside diameter of the lobe. That would let you use an inexpensive later rotor as a blank, and since your're doing a custom caliper mount a different, preferably larger, new rotor OD doesn't matter.
This stock style rotor might have enough metal in the center and of course will be a usable thickness:
Front Rotor 11.5"diameter 2" hub diameter High-quality stainless steel construction Design/drill pattern is the same as OEM Works with stock and most aftermarket calipers Sold each Replaces OEM #44136-84A and 44136-92
Those old wheels have very limited rotor selection because most bikers avoid them and upgrade. That the Abe wheels with that pattern exist at all is odd but the Japanese market have very specific tastes and run old for the sake of old. Have you contacted the wheel seller direct about buying a rotor?Last edited by farmall; 01-09-2020, 2:21 AM.Comment
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Welcome to the custom world. There's no telling how many parts I've bought that just didn't work out. I can't count that high!
This is your brakes, which you will need to work without fail. Your life may depend on it.
Try to find the correct part and put it together as designed, or hire someone who knows what they are doing to put it together for you.
Designing a brake setup might be more advanced customizing than you are ready for and I don't mean that in a mean way.Comment
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