Can we talk about Donald Trump for a second please

**NeoDutch** · 01-08-2017, 3:08 AM

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**datadavid** · 01-22-2017, 10:50 AM

Awful quiet here, whats your new potus up to now? We only get left wing propaganda in sweden so a little insight would be cool.

**Tattooo** · 01-22-2017, 1:51 PM

Originally posted by datadavid

Awful quiet here, whats your new potus up to now? We only get left wing propaganda in sweden so a little insight would be cool.

LOL Hell all we get here is the left wing view also........

**mrhammer2u** · 01-23-2017, 9:19 AM

Originally posted by datadavid

Awful quiet here, whats your new potus up to now? We only get left wing propaganda in sweden so a little insight would be cool.

His Press Secretary very 1st address to the media on his very 1st day as President was in defense of his crowd size. Then his right hand woman Kellyanne Conway was also in defense of his crowd size by saying the Trump team is providing "alternative facts". No,..I'm not joking or being sarcastic. But let's just give him more time they say....

And if you don't want to watch left wing news,....there are other sources. Every hear of Fox News, Brietbart, The Blaze, The Daily Caller, Info Wars, Red State,..to name a few. All the right wing fodder you can digest as well. Sweeden doesn't restrict internet like N. Korea,..does it?

**farmall** · 01-23-2017, 4:01 PM

He just shitcanned TPP, which as a supporter of Free and Open Source software pleases me greatly.

Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement

https://www.eff.org/issues/tpp

What Was the Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement (TPP)? The Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) was a secretive, multinational trade agreement that threatened to extend restrictive intellectual property (IP) laws across the globe and rewrite international rules on its enforcement. The agreement in its original form fell apart when the United States abandoned it in November 2016 following the U.S. Presidential election. However, an 11-country version of the agreement called the Comprehensive and Progressive Trans-Pacific Partnership (CPTPP) was signed by the remaining 11 countries in March 2018, with almost all of the IP chapter of the agreement suspended. The main problems with the original TPP were two-fold: (1) Digital Policies that Benefit Big Corporations at the Expense of the Public: The IP chapter would have had extensive negative ramifications for users’ freedom of expression, right to privacy and due process, as well as hindering peoples' abilities to innovate. Other chapters of the agreement encouraged your personal data to be sent across borders with limited protection for your privacy, and allowed foreign corporations to sue countries for laws or regulations that promote the public interest. (2) Lack of Transparency: The entire process has shut out multi-stakeholder participation and was shrouded in secrecy. The twelve nations that negotiated the TPP were the U.S., Japan, Australia, Peru, Malaysia, Vietnam, New Zealand, Chile, Singapore, Canada, Mexico, and Brunei Darussalam. The TPP contained a chapter on intellectual property covering copyright, trademarks, and patents. The official release of the final TPP text confirmed what we had long feared: that U.S. negotiators pushed for the adoption of copyright measures far more restrictive than currently required by international treaties, including the controversial Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement (ACTA). The TPP Would Have Rewritten Global Rules on Intellectual Property Enforcement All signatory countries would have been required to conform their domestic laws and policies to the provisions of the Agreement. In the U.S., this would have further entrenched controversial aspects of U.S. copyright law—such as the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA)—and restricted the ability of Congress to engage in domestic law reform to meet the evolving needs of American citizens and the innovative technology sector. Overall, the TPP's provisions that recognize the rights of the public are non-binding, whereas almost everything that benefits rightsholders is binding. The final IP chapter included many detailed requirements that are more restrictive than current international standards, and would have required significant changes to other countries’ copyright laws. These include obligations for countries to: Expand Copyright Terms: Create copyright terms well beyond the internationally agreed period in the 1994 Agreement on Trade-Related Aspects of Intellectual Property Rights (TRIPS). The TPP would have extended copyright term protections from life of the author + 50 years, to Life + 70 years for works created by individuals, and 70 years after publication or after creation for corporate owned works (such as Mickey Mouse). Escalate Protections for DRM (aka Digital Locks): It would have compelled signatory nations to enact laws banning circumvention of digital locks (technological protection measures or TPMs) [PDF] that mirror the DMCA and treat violation of the TPM provisions as a separate offense even when no copyright infringement is involved. This would have required countries like New Zealand to completely rewrite its innovative 2008 copyright law, as well as override Australia’s carefully-crafted 2007 TPM regime exclusions for region-coding on movies on DVDs, video games, and players, and for embedded software in devices that restrict access to goods and services for the device—a thoughtful effort by Australian policy makers to avoid the pitfalls experienced with the U.S. digital locks provisions. In the U.S., business competitors have used the DMCA to try to block printer cartridge refill services, competing garage door openers, and to lock mobile phones to particular network providers. Create New Threats for Journalists and Whistleblowers: Dangerously vague text on the misuse of trade secrets, which could be used to enact harsh criminal punishments against anyone who reveals or even accesses information through a "computer system" that is allegedly confidential. Enact a "Three-Step Test" Language That Puts Restrictions on Fair Use: The U.S. Trade Representative (USTR) is putting fair use at risk with restrictive language in the TPP's IP chapter. Companies that adopt more user-friendly rules could also risk lawsuits by content industry investors who believe these rules limit their profits. Place Greater Liability on Internet Intermediaries: The TPP would have forced the adoption of the U.S. DMCA Internet intermediaries copyright safe harbor regime in its entirety on other countries. Chile and Canada have gotten exceptions to allow their forward-thinking regimes that better safeguard user rights to stay in place. However, the TPP would still help entrench the United States' flawed takedown regime as an international standard. Adopt Heavy Criminal Sanctions: Adopt criminal sanctions for copyright infringement that is done without commercial motivation. Users could be jailed or hit with debilitating fines over file sharing, and may have their property or domains seized or destroyed even without a formal complaint from the copyright holder. In short, countries would have to abandon any efforts to learn from the mistakes of the United States and its experience with the DMCA over the last 16 years, and adopt many of the most controversial aspects of U.S. copyright law in their entirety. At the same time, the TPP's IP chapter does not export the limitations and exceptions in the U.S. copyright regime like fair use, which have enabled freedom of expression and technological innovation to flourish in the United States. It includes only a placeholder for exceptions and limitations. This raises serious concerns about other countries’ sovereignty and the ability of national governments to set laws and policies to meet their domestic priorities. Although the IP chapter contains the worst of the agreement's anti-user provisions, we were also concerned by provisions elsewhere that: Place Barriers in the Way of Protecting Your Privacy: The TPP's Electronic Commerce and Telecommunications Chapters establish only the weakest baseline for the protection of your private data—even enforcing self-regulation by the companies that profit from your data is enough. On the other hand, stronger privacy laws are outlawed if they amount to an “arbitrary or unjustifiable discrimination or a disguised restriction on trade.” Do Nothing on Net Neutrality and Spam: The TPP includes provisions on net neutrality and spam control that are so weak that they achieve nothing. But including them in the agreement at all could lead countries to wrongly assume that these topics have been adequately dealt with, dissuading them from working towards more positive solutions. Prohibit Open Source Mandates: With no good rationale, the agreement would outlaw a country from adopting rules for the sale of software that include mandatory code review or the release of source code. This could inhibit countries from addressing pressing information security problems, such as widespread and massive vulnerability in closed-source home routers. Why You Should Care TPP raises significant concerns about citizens’ freedom of expression, due process, innovation, the future of the Internet’s global infrastructure, and the right of sovereign nations to develop policies and laws that best meet their domestic priorities. In sum, the TPP puts at risk some of the most fundamental rights that enable access to knowledge for the world’s citizens. The U.S. Trade Representative (USTR) has pursued a TPP agreement that will require signatory counties to adopt heightened copyright protection that advances the agenda of the U.S. entertainment and pharmaceutical industries agendas, but omits the flexibilities and exceptions that protect Internet users and technology innovators. The TPP would have affected countries beyond the twelve that finalized the original negotiations. Like ACTA, the TPP Agreement is a plurilateral agreement aimed at creating new heightened global IP enforcement norms. Countries that are not parties to the negotiation would likely have been asked to accede to the TPP as a condition of bilateral trade agreements with the U.S. and other TPP members, or evaluated against the TPP's copyright enforcement standards in the USTR's annual Special 301 process.

**datadavid** · 01-24-2017, 7:27 AM

Originally posted by mrhammer2u

His Press Secretary very 1st address to the media on his very 1st day as President was in defense of his crowd size. Then his right hand woman Kellyanne Conway was also in defense of his crowd size by saying the Trump team is providing "alternative facts". No,..I'm not joking or being sarcastic. But let's just give him more time they say....

And if you don't want to watch left wing news,....there are other sources. Every hear of Fox News, Brietbart, The Blaze, The Daily Caller, Info Wars, Red State,..to name a few. All the right wing fodder you can digest as well. Sweeden doesn't restrict internet like N. Korea,..does it?

Haha, no its worse actually! You are free to form your own opinion and read what you want, but currently if you express anything opposing the established political views here your social life and career ends, and you are being stalked and harassed to no end. Especially if you protest the rape invasion happening here right now. Then youre finished.

**datadavid** · 01-24-2017, 7:27 AM

Pure stasi shit

**mrhammer2u** · 01-24-2017, 8:22 AM

Originally posted by farmall

He just shitcanned TPP, which as a supporter of Free and Open Source software pleases me greatly.

https://www.eff.org/issues/tpp

He did not. TPP was never going to pass anyway. Not the 1st time he's taken credit for something that was never going to be. He's already running the country like his company. Someone else builds the buildings, bottles the water, packages the steaks and he just puts his name on it and acts as if he did something.

He also took credit for bringing 5000 jobs back from Sprint. But Sprint had already pledged these news jobs well before Trump as part of an investment by SoftBank to expand.

**Freddykreuger** · 01-24-2017, 8:43 AM

Originally posted by mrhammer2u

He did not. TPP was never going to pass anyway. Not the 1st time he's taken credit for something that was never going to be. He's already running the country like his company. Someone else builds the buildings, bottles the water, packages the steaks and he just puts his name on it and acts as if he did something.

He also took credit for bringing 5000 jobs back from Sprint. But Sprint had already pledged these news jobs well before Trump as part of an investment by SoftBank to expand.

Are you suggesting that big don should be packaging his own steaks? That would take away jobs from the steak packaging hombres.... What kind of hombre are you anyways?

**TwoSheds** · 01-24-2017, 2:27 PM

Originally posted by Freddykreuger

Are you suggesting that big don should be packaging his own steaks? That would take away jobs from the steak packaging hombres.... What kind of hombre are you anyways?

Leave the "hombre" shit on the other side of the wall.

**Freddykreuger** · 01-25-2017, 7:11 AM

Originally posted by TwoSheds

Leave the "hombre" shit on the other side of the wall.

Touche!

**Dragstews** · 01-26-2017, 12:04 PM

Ok Guys.....

I been holding back from voicing my views in this thread...

But now that Trump has a foot in the door now... Whoa...!!!

Dictatorship:
A form of government in which the ruler is an absolute dictator (not restricted by a constitution or laws or opposition etc.)

Trump installed a Gag order on the National Part Service which means he does't want opposition to his drilling for oil in the parks...
He has a substantial gain to his wealth in the oil industry...

Sounds to me like Bambi is soon to be kicked to the curb...

Five days into his presidency, Donald Trump has acted swiftly to dismantle Barack Obama’s legacy, issuing executive orders cutting federal funding to women’s health groups abroad if they discuss abortion, green-lighting the Keystone XL and Dakota Access pipelines, and scaling back the Affordable Care Act.

While his press secretary Sean Spicer has been busy holding daily press briefings and generally evading journalists’ questions about the Trump presidency, Trump himself has been issuing gag orders against various federal agencies. He’s instructed employees at the Environmental Protection Agency—which has had its contracts and grants frozen—and the U.S. Department of Agriculture not to communicate with the press or the public, instituting a media blackout.

Not everyone within the federal government is staying quiet, however.
On Tuesday, the Twitter account for South Dakota’s Badlands National Park—a subsidiary of the National Park Service—began tweeting out climate change facts, in apparent defiance of the gag order.
Someone working for the national park’s social media team went rogue and started posting climate change facts from the National Wildlife Federation’s Web site in 140-character bursts. (Trump, who can generously be described as a climate change skeptic, has previously called called climate change a “hoax” engineered by the Chinese.)

The National Park’s tweets were retweeted thousands of times before they were suddenly deleted later Tuesday afternoon.

Just saying..... Whoa !!!

BTY .... I didn't vote for Trump...
Wished that Monica Lewinsky was on the ticket....
She would have got my vote, cause she got the job done that Hillary couldn't do...

**mrhammer2u** · 01-26-2017, 1:37 PM

Originally posted by Freddykreuger

Are you suggesting that big don should be packaging his own steaks? That would take away jobs from the steak packaging hombres.... What kind of hombre are you anyways?

LOL!
Trump steaks died a miserable death like many of his business's. But now that he's in power he can't just bankrupt one of his LLC's or sub-corps and leave a few banks high and dry when an idea goes bad.

**DustyDave** · 01-26-2017, 10:02 PM

The Mexican President kicked the great negotiator's ass today! Guess being a loudmouth bully doesn't work on the world stage! But that's ok the American middle class can pay for one more boondoggle, for sure the rich won't under Rump!
Dusty

**Freddykreuger** · 01-27-2017, 3:08 AM

Originally posted by DustyDave

The Mexican President kicked the great negotiator's ass today!
Dusty

How so?

Can we talk about Donald Trump for a second please

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