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  • Helwade
    Member
    • Feb 2013
    • 74

    Biltwell Bonnie Project

    Billdozer and I have a problem. He's got a unit Triumph project, a shovelhead refresh, a panhead project and an FXR that's slated for a mill swap in the not-too-distant future.

    I've got a Hinckley Triumph chopper that eats coils, a SpartanKiller that never gets ridden, a CB450 streettracker with dirty carbs and a new Mountain bike that's fighting for my spare time.

    Given all this, the last thing we need in the building is another motorcycle project.

    Of course, that means I'm heading to San Juan Capistrano, CA tomorrow to pick up this:



    This 2008 Hinckley Triumph Bonneville is getting my version of Bill's famous EZXL treatment:

    * ditch the blinkers
    * chop, refoam and recover the stock seat pan
    * bob and/or scrap the fenders
    * swap bars and risers with something from the Biltwell catalog
    * open up intake and tweak exhaust
    * freshen up rolling stock with a rim swap, some anodizing and a new set of meats
    * new paint

    In other words, do a little chopping and bobbing for R&D's sake.

    What's that you say? Yes, this low mileage cherry is being added to the shop quiver as a skunkworks test mule for future Biltwell brand Hinckley Triumph parts and accessories.

    I'm floating this info to CC Nation to hear what current Hinkley guys might be interested in seeing us develop.

    I can tell you right now that at least 4 of our current handlebars and our Slimline risers look great on this bike, and that we're 4-5 weeks away from having Mushman foot pegs for Hinkley Bonnies and Scramblers. A new Biltwell style seat is also a given, but this will take 7-10 months for tooling and fitment development.

    I realize some of the following bikes are W650s, but this is where my head is at for my " EZT100:"












    Thanks to Deus Ex Machina and CRD for the inspiration.

    This bike needs to be finished by June, so this thread should move quick. Please feel free to pipe up with your wish list for Hinkley bolt ons.

    Mufflers, perhaps?

    What pipes do you guys recommend? Paint scheme? The frame will remain stock, but tins are getting the goods from Josh at OSH.

    Thanks again to DEM and CRD of Europe for their inspirational motorcycles

    Stay tuned…

    McGoo
    Last edited by Helwade; 02-06-2013, 12:49 AM.
  • hutchings
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2010
    • 481

    #2
    Awesome, I'm sure it'll be outstanding as usual.

    I'm not a big triumph guy, but appreciate all things developed... especially from the Biltwell factory.

    I'd say a slick, low slung exhaust with a kicked up Cone muffler would be cool.

    There's definitely a lot of potential in those bikes.

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    • soaz
      Member
      • Oct 2009
      • 40

      #3
      great project. I love my Hinkley carbureted bonnie.

      The W650 has a cleaner looking engine like you posted above. Such a pretty bike, that we can't get anymore. So the Trump is the best choice I say!

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      • SST
        Junior Member
        • Feb 2011
        • 7

        #4
        Love the T-100. I chose the same model on the last Triumph I had. The tank is beautiful. I ended up selling it, but really wanted to see what your Moto bars would look like on it. Your new foot pegs would also look great on it. I had Trackers that I painted gold to match the pin striping on the tank. Here's a few pics of it. I added 3 inches to the swingarm (thanks to Rick the Welder) and went with a 16" and 18" Excel wheel combo. It was a really fun bike!

        Last edited by SST; 02-06-2013, 7:29 AM.

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        • Torch
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2009
          • 2705

          #5
          Good choice Magoo,

          I've always felt that the quality of the new Triumphs is related to the huge popularity of the old Triumphs.


          What this about the other one eating coils?
          I know they had some issues with that,... just replace it with a new style one and go on with life.

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          • Helwade
            Member
            • Feb 2013
            • 74

            #6
            Originally posted by Torch
            Good choice Magoo,

            I've always felt that the quality of the new Triumphs is related to the huge popularity of the old Triumphs.


            What this about the other one eating coils?
            I know they had some issues with that,... just replace it with a new style one and go on with life.
            Hey Tony, on the subject of my Triumph chopper, the right coil is dead. I also learned the hard way that my donor motor is a Scrambler, not a Bonnie, which means it 270 out instead of 360 out. No big deal—it ran fine after you fixed it—but the Scrambler setup requires two coils, which the old bike has (but were shit).

            I found Nology coils online and will do the swap to high output aftermarket coils for both cylinders as soon as the parts arrive.

            Regarding the test mule project, I love what I'm already seeing on this thread. The Bonnie below my original post looks awesome. Nice work!

            I'm going with black anodized Excel rims: 19" front and 17" rear with dual sport supermoto style tires. I'll post pics of the setup later this afternoon.

            Right now I'm boning out to pick up the donor bike!

            McGoo

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            • CRFyou
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2010
              • 5468

              #7
              Mcgoo,

              Here's my scrambler.

              I put cocktail shakers from Moore's on there because they were only $100. I made brackets and they've been on the bike for 4 years now.

              But the chrome is getting barf.

              The thing I hate about new bonnevilles is that even just the slip-on systems are $500. Affordable exhaust would go over well. As well as some killer seats.

              Bing Bong!

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              • Motorradfahrer
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2009
                • 886

                #8
                Originally posted by CRFyou
                The thing I hate about new bonnevilles is that even just the slip-on systems are $500. Affordable exhaust would go over well. As well as some killer seats.
                I also suggest you look into developing an affordable exhaust and seat.

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                • Jburl
                  Member
                  • Aug 2011
                  • 51

                  #9
                  How about some 7/8" bars? The base Bonneville and the Scrambler both come stock with 7/8" bars while the T100's use the 1" bars. I'd love to see a 7/8" bar and riser combo from you guys. How about a rear fender/tail light combo maybe motocross style? I can't wait to see what you come up with for the seat.

                  A clean light weight exhaust system for the right $ wouldn't be a bad idea either. I'm running the TEC 2>1 on my EFI Bonnie and really like it, but would love to have a smaller and better flowing muffler.
                  Last edited by Jburl; 02-06-2013, 11:03 AM.

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                  • Helwade
                    Member
                    • Feb 2013
                    • 74

                    #10
                    It didn't take long or cost much to get the donor bike into our shop one day after Billdozer suggested I attack this project. The bike I found in San Juan Capistrano was a low-mileage cherry with 10k clicks on the ODO and a fresh chain.

                    My personal program for establishing the look of any motorcycle I'm modding or building is to start with wheels and rubber first.

                    Since this bike's whole reason for being is to help us develop bolt-on parts for stock Hinckley Triumphs, it will of course keep the stock frame, swingarm and forks. This fact ties my hands to the wheel package even more, at least in terms of the finished bike's purpose and "style."

                    Speaking of purpose and style, I'm shooting for something exactly like Bill's original EZXL, which was built with some off-road capability in mind.

                    To that end, I've chosen the following meats for my machine:



                    The rear tire will be a Pirelli Scorpion A/T dual-sport tire in 140/80-18 size.

                    Since the stock rear wheel/tire combo is of the 130/70-17 variety, my refurb demands a new set of rims.

                    Enter a pair of these:



                    Ten seconds after rolling the donor bike into my work station I ordered the following shiny bits from Buchanan's:

                    • One 2.50" x 19" x 36-hole dimpled Excel alloy front rim
                    • One 3.50" x 18" x 40-hole dimpled Excel alloy rear rim
                    • 36 custom-cut stainless steel straight-gauge spokes and SS nipples for the front
                    • 40 custom-cut SS spokes and nipples for the rear

                    The new 140/80-18 rear tire/wheel package will increase the total height of the back wheel +2.64" over the current 130/70-17 stock setup.

                    Visually this should stack up nicely against the 26.08" diameter 100/90-19 Scorpion A/T on the front. If the bike's stance gets too "stink bug" (high in the rear) I'll balance it with a shorter set of rear shocks from the good folks at Progressive/Burly Brand.

                    Here's another photo I found for inspiration on this project:



                    Everyone who customizes these "ROM's" (Regular Old Motorcycles) seems to be enamored with Firestones or some similarly sketchy retro meats. Since Mexico is a regular stop on most Biltwell adventures, I want to have a little more off-road capability and reliability. I've got a set of Pirelli's Scorp A/T's on my BMW X-Challenge, and they work great.

                    It may not give this project bike the "Brat Style" many people shoot for with these beasts, but I think the finished wheel package will look and perform great.

                    On the matter of looks, I plan to have my Excels anodized black before I lace 'em up with those sexy Buchanan SS spokes. The stock Hinckley hubs will remain stock, which is a machined raw alloy finish that looks plenty nice enough to run without headache or hesitation.

                    Tomorrow Erik and I are going to start tearing off the stock bits and stripping down the electricals.

                    If you see something on the donor bike as it stands that you'd like to buy, please PM me.

                    Here's another peak at the donor bike to refresh your memory:



                    Those pipes are aftermarket Triumph hi-perf so-and-so's, and Bill tells me they kick ass and sound great.

                    I'm going to build pipes and use aftermarket muffler cans, so these gots to go!

                    Thanks to CRFYou and everyone else who volunteered photos and ideas for this project. I really appreciate the feedback.

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                    • Helwade
                      Member
                      • Feb 2013
                      • 74

                      #11


                      Progressive wins in the search for new shocks on the Bonnie. These model 444 coil-overs are available in 12.5" length, which by my rough calculations should put the new taller rear wheel right where I need it.

                      Dave Zemla at Burly/Progressive knows everything about this stuff, so I'll hit him up for tech deets.

                      Black, of course.

                      This thing is going to be FUN

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                      • hutchings
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2010
                        • 481

                        #12
                        Looking forward to a review on the 444's that replaced the 440's. Haven't heard much about them yet.

                        The new burly stilettos weren't of any interest?

                        Sent from my SGH-I747M using Tapatalk 2

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                        • blsm
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2010
                          • 106

                          #13
                          I've always loved this one.

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                          • davidabl
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2009
                            • 1213

                            #14
                            My take away from your Deus ExMachina bikes is that the the top end of the Kawi power plant is way, way better looking than the top end of the the Hinckley mill..

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                            • longlivepunk
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2012
                              • 240

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Helwade
                              Billdozer and I have a problem. He's got a unit Triumph project, a shovelhead refresh, a panhead project and an FXR that's slated for a mill swap in the not-too-distant future.

                              I've got a Hinckley Triumph chopper that eats coils, a SpartanKiller that never gets ridden, a CB450 streettracker with dirty carbs and a new Mountain bike that's fighting for my spare time.
                              Fuck, can we trade problems for a while??

                              The build sounds cool, I'm not a fan of the overly machined look of the new Trump motors, but I hae seen a few custom bikes with their engines that I've really liked. I'll be watching!

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