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paulimperio
09-19-2009, 6:30 PM
Anyone got a good wiring diagram for a 79 bonneville?? I just installed a Boyer ignition and a tympanium reg/rect, and I don't know if my wiring is off or my timing is, but I still can't get the thing to kick. HELP PLEASE!!

Doubleclutch
09-19-2009, 6:59 PM
Dude Im not trying to be a dick but go here first and post up. Guys just want to get to know yea a little.

http://www.chopcult.com/forum/showthread.php?t=96&page=59

paulimperio
09-19-2009, 8:14 PM
Gotcha. All good, sorry about that. Still figuring out the site i guess, hah

KT
09-19-2009, 11:26 PM
These are compliments of britcycle and raskcycle

http://britcycle.com/Manuals/Boyer_pos_neg.pdf

http://britcycle.com/Manuals/33102inst.pdf

http://raskcycle.com/techtip/webdoc16a.html

I agree with the others you need to call Lowbrow and get a TDC tool and the dvds will make this alot less painful ....welcome aboard ...

oildevil13
09-20-2009, 12:28 AM
Tool and Vid = Painless... did it today. Hows your battery? Boyers need good strong current, Right? How are your connections? Soldered or crimped ? Coils? Im guessing you are tracing your circut with a voltage light and/or a tester to the plug and making sure your hot to the plug? Checked valve adjustment? Sloppy valves, sloppy electrical, and eyeballed timing will add up quick. Points and plugs gapped? Compression? fuel?
Comp stroke - timing side? Boyer installed 180 out? Is that possible? Correctly grounded? pos or neg ground? Im guessing it was running before? Hoping?
British cycle supply has a CD that is everything your little heart desires for a triumph... wiring, factory manuals, factory recall and updates... and I believe its EVERY major triumph make and model. Cant remember if the parts books were a seperate disk.... might be handy.
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I've use a dial indicator to find TDC also... tedious, and not everyone has one. magnetic base, positioning arm, and .000 -.100 indicator with extentions to get inside the plug hole. You can fuck up your expensive tool, so I didnt mention it. Another option. Degree wheel is cheaper, and crank timing pin is cheaper still. Im not that familier with Boyer stuff, because I was advised against it using old british rotor stator which is likely to be weak after 40 years. My bike has an all in one ignition box that eliminates everything including the battery, if you like. I still run one to help the lights, again on trusted advice.


Compression. Fire. Fuel.

KT
09-20-2009, 12:33 AM
Tool and Vid = Painless... did it today. Hows your battery? Boyers need good strong current, Right? How are your connections? Soldered or crimped ? Coils? Im guessing you are tracing your circut with a voltage light and/or a tester to the plug and making sure your hot to the plug? Checked valve adjustment? Sloppy valves, sloppy electrical, and eyeballed timing will add up quick. Points and plugs gapped? Compression? fuel?

Compression. Fire. Fuel.

Good advice also check at the points cover and make sure those connections are done with a barrel crimp connection and and not just twisted and taped ...connection here needs to be good and solid.....

paulimperio
09-28-2009, 9:25 AM
Hey guys,

So update:

I got the video and the tool, timed it and set the wiring up, but it still won't fire up.

I've been following this wiring diagram to a T:

http://raskcycle.com/techtip/webdoc16a.html

and I couldn't help but notice a third wire coming from the alternator: A green and black one. I assumed it was a ground so i bolted it to the frame--was i wrong in assuming that? I also tried checking for spark on the spark plugs. Now, I didn't see a spark, but got shocked so im assuming there was something there.

Right now I'm going to clean the carbs and i guess try n tune and rejet them to see if that was the problem. Possibly readjust the valves After that, I'm pretty much stumped. I pretty much installed a whole new ignition system: new Battery, boyer, tympanium, coils, spark plugs, spark plug cables.

Anyone here have a clue maybe??

KT
09-28-2009, 3:45 PM
On three wire I remember something about twisting two of them together but make sure they are the right two one green/yellow and one green/white and not sure what the scheme is on the third ...I'd have to go look it up to be for sure maybe someone else can chime in a help ya more in depth...

Torch
10-05-2009, 9:14 AM
twist the green/yellow and the green/black wire together as one wire and the green/white wire as the other wire conected to the charge unit to make the 6vt stator into a 12vt stator.

KT
10-05-2009, 10:52 AM
Their ya go Thanks torch ...

paulimperio
10-07-2009, 1:39 PM
Oh cool, I've just been grounding the green/black. I'll give that a shot when my new boyer comes in though. Thanks!