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dracko
12-29-2010, 11:38 AM
Well figure I should finally get a thread going for my trump build since I lurk around on here all the time. Been collecting parts for a couple years. Sold my cb550 to help pay for this pricey piece of British engineering and wanna have it done by spring....which is about 5 months away up here in Canada.

After buying a shit front loop from a dude in Ontario I bought one off the JJ from Tony at classic cycles. the first one was beat up, chromed and rear downtube extended 2" ?!?!..was becoming a pain in the ass to fix so its wall art now. maybe i'll use it down the road. Heres a couple pics of it.

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll8/drackett19/choppedframe.jpg
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll8/drackett19/DSC00577.jpg

got some bars from Craig at Ft.Street cycle, an old rigid oil tank, 21/19 wheel combo and a hardtail from DB. I just sent the crank/+60 pistons/rods off to get dynamic balanced. should have back soon and start putting the engine together. i replaced all the bearings/bushings/seals . head is also rebuilt stock.

shaved the frame, fork lowers and top fork clamp with the angle grinder, then some files, then sandpaper.

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll8/drackett19/DSC00564.jpg
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll8/drackett19/tires-1.jpg
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll8/drackett19/ShavedYoke22.jpg
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll8/drackett19/chopneck.jpg
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll8/drackett19/neck.jpg

Heres where i'm sitting now. Lots of work to go, need to start getting everything mounted up. Tape and magnets are pretty strong, but not sure they'll hold up on the road.

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll8/drackett19/DSC00935.jpg

Thats not the engine i'll be using, got that one for a song from some old guy in town here and just been using it for mock-up. will probably tear it down and rebuild it in the future.

Got these pushrods off an auction site. They're like 1/2" longer than the stock rods that came with my basket case motor. anybody got some factory length measurements on these??

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll8/drackett19/DSC00581-1.jpg

Grashopr
12-30-2010, 12:37 AM
I have a stock set sitting here that are 6 5/16.

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dracko
12-30-2010, 7:54 AM
okay thanks grashopr, i'll need to get this sorted before assembly.

image1
12-30-2010, 12:38 PM
thats a good lookin roller!

Duncan44
12-30-2010, 12:45 PM
awesome bike!

dracko
01-08-2011, 2:57 AM
Hey thanks for the comments. This is my first time piecing a bike together from nothing so it seems everything takes 5 times longer than it should...but hell of a good time.

Used my buddies mig to get some of the mounts and bungs welded up. I haven't done much welding so some of them look like monkey shit. but thats what the flap wheels for...right!? Nice to get this stuff mounted up.

welded a bung into the top tube for the tank
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll8/drackett19/tankBunk.jpg
and seat mount
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll8/drackett19/DSC00943.jpg
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll8/drackett19/DSC00952.jpg
Cut out some brackets for the oil tank, used rubber grommets to help with the vibes.
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll8/drackett19/tankMount.jpg
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll8/drackett19/tankmount2.jpg
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll8/drackett19/mockUp.jpg

Next up is tear down the rear wheel. It was powdercoated when i got it and the rim is 1/2" to the right of center. can't adjust the spokes so gonna have to cut'em out and relace it.
Crank should be back next week so can hopefully get the bottom end buttoned up.

dracko
02-15-2011, 10:17 PM
Well between shitty weather and keeping my 64 c10 on the raod, I haven't had time to do much work on the bike. But I got my crank back from the balancer today and it warmed up outside so I'm back on track :D.
Haven't seen a crank shaved like this before but the shop has a good reputation so I'm gonna run it.
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll8/drackett19/crankbalanced3.jpg
polished up the rods before sending them out with the crank.
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll8/drackett19/polishedRods.jpg
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll8/drackett19/crankbalanced.jpg
Used my rod nuts earlier so need to order up some new ones and a few other random parts, then should have the bottom end buttoned up.
Spent some poker winnings on new set of SS seal holders..mine were rusty and beat up. Still need to shave the lip off so my fork covers will slide over them.
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll8/drackett19/fork_seals.jpg
Found some time today to bench test this old mag I bought off ebay a year ago, and i'll be damned, it actually throws a fat spark . Its been chromed so I don't wanna break it down for rebuild.
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll8/drackett19/HuntMag.jpg
Cleaned up my rear brake plate too....it was beat to all hell. Still deciding on lightening holes.
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll8/drackett19/brake_plate.jpg
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll8/drackett19/brake_plate2.jpg

bhead1968
02-18-2011, 7:08 PM
Haven't seen a crank shaved like this before but the shop has a good reputation so I'm gonna run it.
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll8/drackett19/crankbalanced3.jpg


Neither have I, getting close in finishing my engine rebuild on my trump and my crank was balanced as well, on mine, they drilled a few holes in the outside of the center flywheel. Guess there's always different techniques.

looking good and good luck with it.

ChopperGuy
02-19-2011, 4:58 PM
Sweet. Nothing like a Triumph brought back to life. Got one I'll be working on here soon. Got to get this BMW hardtail finished first. Good luck on your build.

dracko
03-07-2011, 11:00 AM
Neither have I, getting close in finishing my engine rebuild on my trump and my crank was balanced as well, on mine, they drilled a few holes in the outside of the center flywheel. Guess there's always different techniques.


Yeah thats what I was expecting to see too, you'd think the flywheel would be the place to remove material because there isn't as much stress on it. But we'll see how it goes.:D


Sweet. Nothing like a Triumph brought back to life. Got one I'll be working on here soon. Got to get this BMW hardtail finished first. Good luck on your build.
Hey thanks, lets see some pics of that Beemer!

Got some new springs, seals and bushings in the mail so bolted up the front end.
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll8/drackett19/frontend11.jpg
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll8/drackett19/frontend66.jpg
Need to make a small mount for this headlight now.
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll8/drackett19/frontend-1.jpg
Cobbled this fork tube puller together for the cost of a fork tube cap and some all thread, it worked pretty good.
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll8/drackett19/fork_tube_puller.jpg

dracko
03-29-2011, 11:17 PM
[SIZE="3"]Wow been a while since I've done an update. Somehow the past couple weeks have still been cold up here, so I ended up moving the engine build into the basement for a while. Finally put that damn deep freezer to good use!
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll8/drackett19/temp_bench.jpg

Had the cylinders bored/honed out for my .060 pistons and I finally bolted up the bottom end, big relief when everything rotated as it should.:D
Anybody use SS hardware for case bolts?
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll8/drackett19/engine11.jpg
The rings that came with my pistons had like a .21 ring gap so i'm waiting on new rings before torquing down the barrels. Did a quick pre-fit without the pistons for shits and giggles.
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll8/drackett19/engine_with_barrels.jpg

Dropped the engine into the frame and mounted it up so I could get the drive sprockets lined up. After re-lacing the rear wheel i'd like to center it so I can figure out my rim offset before truing it up. If anybody has tips on lining up the sprockets, i'm all ears.

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll8/drackett19/sdfa.jpg

rusjack
03-30-2011, 4:39 PM
i like everything about this bike so far!

SLICKstripes
03-30-2011, 7:06 PM
I've always had a soft spot for old Trumps and this one's no exception! Great build so far. Maybe I'll look into a Triumph for my next build...

CMA406
03-30-2011, 7:15 PM
looks great man, and i know the feeling of everything spinning smoothly! but i also know the feeling of it binding up...haha

dracko
04-02-2011, 1:40 PM
Hey thanks for the comments, pumped to get this thing on the road.

I've been messing around with the rear sprocket, spacers and a string line trying to get everything lined up right. When the sprockets are in line, I only have about a 3/16 spacer between the brake plate and the axle plate.
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll8/drackett19/rear_axle-1.jpg
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll8/drackett19/rear_axle111.jpg

[SIZE="4"]Does this look about right? Since I'm piecing this bike together with parts from all over the damn place, I'm not 100% sure I have the spacers on the underside engine mount stud in the right places to center the engine. Right now I have a spacer on each side, between the frame rail and the engine case. This pic of the underside shows what i'm talking about, arrows point to the spacers.
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll8/drackett19/engine_spacers.jpg
Is this how they would've come setup from the factory? Engine sure looks like its sitting centered.

thanks .:cheersmate:

dracko
04-03-2011, 2:58 PM
Anybody running a Bird bolt on hardtail and stock Triumph rear wheel? Be nice to have that measurement between the brake plate and frame axle plate to compare measurements to, even when the chain is dead straight, i'm still getting a little clatter from the front sprocket.

dracko
04-04-2011, 12:36 PM
I noticed that when I torqued down the axle nut, my brake plate would go crooked. Checked the axle plates on this David Bird hardtail with a level and they're shaped like this \ /

That is exaggerated, but they're off enough to pull my rear drum crooked when tightened up. brutal. Especially since the first frame I got from him was so crooked it barely bolted up. He at least gave me this one without hassle. But now I either need to shim somehow or heat and bend the axle plates level. any suggestions?

dracko
06-25-2011, 7:37 PM
Got some good progress made on the bike. getting damn close to firing it up!:D

Made up a sissy bar so I have somewhere to strap shit. This was my first attempt at bending one of these up....well bending steel at all really. I decided to use plywood and big ass bolts as the jig plate for the first one. Yup, plywood. I must've been drunk. Needless to say, the first bar was fucked from the get go and hit the bin in a hurry. :o Bought some 1/4" steel plate and welded bungs to it for the second attempt.

Came out better. Only used 1/2" cold rolled, figure it should be thick enough to hold gear? what size steel is usually used for these things?
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll8/drackett19/stance_bar-1.jpg
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll8/drackett19/sissy_bar.jpg
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll8/drackett19/stance22-1.jpg

put an oil gauge on for a little peace of mind. and needed a tach to get it plated...probably good to have during engine break-in/tuning.
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll8/drackett19/engine2222.jpg
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll8/drackett19/gauge.jpg
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll8/drackett19/tachpo-1.jpg
Crazy ass Ducati throttle....needed some work but I dig the chain puller gizmo.
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll8/drackett19/SUPERPRACTIC-1.jpg
Gonna use a bung from lowbrow to mount the head steady.
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll8/drackett19/engine_mount2-1.jpg
I welded a bung on centered between the rocker boxes and then realized I couldn't remove the rockers with it there.:banghead: ...out with the grinder/hand files. lol

Speedfiend
06-26-2011, 12:31 PM
Looks great. Rock on!

Joey4420
06-26-2011, 4:12 PM
Looking good... And from what I have read elsewhere 1/2 cold rolled is what just about everyone is making their Sissy Bars out of.

I like that throttle.

topdeadcenter
06-26-2011, 7:14 PM
Very nice!

dracko
06-26-2011, 8:20 PM
Thanks for the kind words! I'm waiting on a clutch nut adjuster from Trumpnut before I can fire this thing up. The Canada Post strike is turning into a real kick in the nuts.


I like that throttle.

Yeah they're cool little bastards. Not the smoothest action, but its also probably 30 years old. On ebay the odd time. Has the words Super Practic punched in it, think they're made by Tommaselli.

Rented this drill jig setup while I had the engine on the bench. Converts the shift quadrant to use the pre-71 plunger and get rid of the leaf spring. Mike did a great job designing the jig, damn near impossible to mess up with it bolted in place correctly...and a good rental rate too.
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll8/drackett19/jig_parts.jpg
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll8/drackett19/gearbox_mod1.jpg
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll8/drackett19/gearbox_mod2.jpg

Here is his email if anybody wants to do the conversion:
ebodycuda@yahoo.com

Speedfiend
06-27-2011, 5:06 AM
Hey, thats rad. I've been researching the 72' leaf spring to plunger mod. So you rented that jig? Cool. What was the total cost? Parts, rental, etc?

dracko
06-27-2011, 7:45 AM
Yeah its a slick setup. Cost is $40 for rental and then shipping each way. I picked up the pre-OIF camplate and plunger for next to nothing on the BritBike forum. Some stick with the OIF camplate and have no issues, all depends on spring tension I think.

MIke has a form he sends out with detailed instructions/fees..

image1
06-27-2011, 11:00 AM
great looking bike!

Jamiem753
06-27-2011, 3:00 PM
Very nice hope mine comes out half as good.

dracko
06-27-2011, 5:41 PM
Thanks guys. Been a long time comin. Anybody know where I could find a 4.5" sealed beam with dual filament? That headlight shell is so shallow I can't run a Halogen bulb. Searching around only finding single filament bulbs....which apparently won't pass inspection.

BigAssSack
06-27-2011, 7:59 PM
Let me look at work tomorrow, I might have one I can throw your way. At the very least, I might find a retailer you can go through to get one.

dracko
06-27-2011, 10:20 PM
Let me look at work tomorrow, I might have one I can throw your way. At the very least, I might find a retailer you can go through to get one.

That'd be great. thanks.

BigAssSack
06-28-2011, 8:27 AM
Hey, I found one in the Custom Chrome catalog, p/n 26400. My shop sells them for $15, I can get it for $9 plus whatever shipping would cost to get it to you.


You should stop at a couple shops near you and see if any of them deal CC. If not, let me know and I'll order one and get it to you.

Hope this helps!

dracko
06-28-2011, 11:15 AM
Hey, I found one in the Custom Chrome catalog, p/n 26400. My shop sells them for $15, I can get it for $9 plus whatever shipping would cost to get it to you.


You should stop at a couple shops near you and see if any of them deal CC. If not, let me know and I'll order one and get it to you.

Hope this helps!

Nice! thanks alot. I didn't even think to look at a CC catalogue. I'll call around town here, there should be a place that can bring it in. If not though, I may hit you up for one.

Cheers:cheersmate:

Abeblinkin
06-28-2011, 1:13 PM
Looking great, I was curious if you figured out a solution on your rear spacing on the bird hardtail.
I'm using one for a pre-unit project and its a bear to get together and I'm not finding it possible to use a 16" rear. Just curious.

BigAssSack
06-28-2011, 1:39 PM
Glad I could point you in the right direction. Like I said, I get a decent discount, so I could probably get it ordered and sent out for maybe $13. If you can't find it cheaper, I could maybe save you a few bucks, too, lol!

dracko
06-28-2011, 3:30 PM
Think I'm gonna take you up on that offer. Just called around to the couple bike shops in town and getting that bulb in is like pulling teeth. I'll fire you a PM.

dracko
06-28-2011, 10:53 PM
Looking great, I was curious if you figured out a solution on your rear spacing on the bird hardtail.
I'm using one for a pre-unit project and its a bear to get together and I'm not finding it possible to use a 16" rear. Just curious.

Yeah that was a real headache. I ended up just using the factory axle nuts in their original location and the chain seems to be lined up pretty good. One of the holes on my rear motor mount plates was ovaled out and I think the engine was sitting cockeyed...so the chain was making more noise than normal.

It seems like the key to rigging up any rear tire is first getting the sprockets lined up nice and then worrying about centering the tire. So after using nuts/spacers to get the sprockets/chain aligned, then start tweaking your spokes to move the rim left or right on the hub.

Does your Triumph axle fit tight in the axle plate slots of that Bird hardtail? Seems like the slots on this one are too big, axle can move up and down so I have to be sure each side is pressed up or the tire will sit slanted.

dracko
08-09-2011, 10:41 AM
Well after a 3 week hiatus to Turkey, I finally found a few days to work on the bike. Fired it up for the first time and nothing exploded! Ran like a champ, pulls hard.
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll8/drackett19/IMG_0959-1.jpg
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll8/drackett19/IMG_0965.jpg
After installing the foot pegs and trying to work the kicker, realized I'd been dooped and bought T140 foot pegs off eBay. Damnit. Made up a temporary foot rest. Just noticed i'm missing an engine plate bolt too.
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll8/drackett19/IMG_0961.jpg
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll8/drackett19/IMG_0960-1.jpg
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll8/drackett19/IMG_0964.jpg

Big thanks to Tony, Wes, Trumpnut Nick, and everybody else on here that helped out with all my dumb ass questions along the way.

Time to go get some of the small shit sorted so it'll pass inspection...like chain guard, mirror, horn...lights.

flatblack34
08-09-2011, 3:12 PM
nice trumpet man..like everything about it..

TroyFab
08-15-2011, 9:29 PM
Great job!

dracko
08-19-2011, 9:55 AM
Thanks.

RIgged up a tail light/plate, giant hi/lo headlight and managed to talk my way around needing an inspection. thank god. . Thing is a riot to tear around on and the pipes are LOUD as shit.
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll8/drackett19/IMG_0977.jpg
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll8/drackett19/IMG_0975-1.jpg
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll8/drackett19/IMG_0976-1.jpg

likemlouder
08-28-2011, 2:17 PM
Bike turned Out really nice :clap for you:

TheLakewoodKid2
08-30-2011, 12:40 PM
are you still looking for foot pegs?

dracko
08-30-2011, 7:13 PM
are you still looking for foot pegs?

I'm starting to get used to the mismatched footrests. You have a set for sale? I might make up some mounts over the LOOOOng canadian winter and run the folding pegs on both sides.

Bikes been running good other than some oil in the left cylinder, plug is wet/black. Right plug is light brown color.. Also noticed the gauge was showing nearly nil when hot at idle, added a morgo oil pump and got rid of the cheap SDA crank seal, oil pressure went up big time. Idles hot at 30psi now.