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thelowlife
12-12-2010, 8:24 PM
So I'm new around here been lurking for awhile at other peoples projects, gathering ideas and info to apply to my build. I'll be starting up my build thread here and showing progress and issues that I run into as I go and so far.. the issues outweigh the progress part by far.

I initially started this project.. I had bought a frame from someone and had a CB750 motor sitting around, after digging into the motor a little more I found a lot of suprises inside.. including timing chains snapped and ceased, guides gone etc. So that idea was scrapped and I was on the hunt for something new.. my biggest thing is I like to do everything myself and I want to do it on a budget.

I found a 83 Nighthawk 650 and was able to talk the guy down to $300.. as far as the owner knew it should have been able to start, but he didn't want to spend anytime or money on it. After getting it home spent about 30 mins checking plugs.. air box, and cleaning the gas tank and new fuel in it.. it ran like a CHAMP!

Decided then to start to chop everything up and hardtail(pictures to come). With that decision came a huge amount of "what if's" and million and one questions.

First off... the 83 Nighthawk is shaft driven so without having to get a custom shaft made to lengthen and stretch everything I decided to stick with stock shaft length. More problems to follow with pictures as I progress..

Here is my big problem that I'm working on right now.. custom triple tree set up . I plan on using 7/8 drag parts and a peanut tank. With the stock Nighthawk top tree there was a problem, the stock clamps have about a 35 degree pullback built in which meant any turn I would have my bars smashing my tank. So what do I do.. no one makes any really cool aftermarket parts to fit on a 83 nightawk.. so that means everything has to be adapted or made.. so thats what I decided to do.

My brothers friend who works at a steel yard was able to pick me a 1" thick aircraft grade aluminium plate.. for a whopping $0. So I laid out my design on CAD and got to work milling it out. I was half way through milling it out at my shop when my other brother stopped by and mentioned how his work has $200k CNC machine and the guys would love to CNC all this out for me.. again for nothing.

My brother is an electrical engineer and works with other mechanical engineers so he is running the designs by them to make sure they'll hold up. So once they are mill I'll add some bar mounts and the top will be done.

Stay tuned I'll be posting more as I go..

thelowlife
01-09-2011, 11:05 PM
So still working on CNCing my triple trees.. has to be done after my brothers shop is closed and since they are behind on a few projects well... thats taking awhile. So I mocked up a wood top clamp to see if the risers will clear the tank . Lowered the forks 4 inches.

I have the frame pretty well buttoned up and finished aside from a few finishing welds and 2 more lengths of tubing on the bottom just for looks more then support the frame should be wrapped up aside from misc. tabs and mounts.

thelowlife
01-09-2011, 11:11 PM
Before shots of the bike.

Salty
01-10-2011, 12:42 AM
awesome... i look forward to more build on this shafty hard tail... gives me even more ideas for when i hardtail mine. anymore pics of where you met the frame rails to the driveshaft? did you build a jig or did someone hardtail it for you?

thelowlife
01-10-2011, 12:56 AM
awesome... i look forward to more build on this shafty hard tail... gives me even more ideas for when i hardtail mine. anymore pics of where you met the frame rails to the driveshaft? did you build a jig or did someone hardtail it for you?

Its actually really simple.. I cut the ends of the rear shocks and welded them to the end of the tubing and then just bolt them to the stock mount were the shocks were. I'll take more pictures to better explain myself.

I didn't really need a jig because the swing arm kept the rear nice and straight while doing it

Hooligans
01-10-2011, 1:01 AM
Definitely cool for a shafty. I have a Suzuki GS850 here that is a shafty and my buddy is building it. I'll have to show him your pic...

turtlem1969
01-10-2011, 5:22 PM
love the stance of it so far.

XFatTonyX
01-10-2011, 9:29 PM
:clap for you: looks a lot like mine so far. Wish I had the resourses for a custom tripple, tank clearance is a bitch

Shacknasty
01-10-2011, 10:22 PM
Damn, a freakin' Nighthawk! Way cool to see this. I just stuck an '83 Nighty on the lift. Got the motor down to cases to replace a base gasket. While workin' on the teardown i was thinkin about hardtailin it for fun.

Your frame changes are cool and definately inspired. Cutting the shocks, welding, and using the shock mount points is a new one on me. I was thinking about the usual axle plates, new axle, etc., but I may steal your idea while yer not lookin'!

Please post more and larger pics soon...

XFatTonyX
01-10-2011, 11:22 PM
Damn, a freakin' Nighthawk! Way cool to see this. I just stuck an '83 Nighty on the lift. Got the motor down to cases to replace a base gasket. While workin' on the teardown i was thinkin about hardtailin it for fun.

Your frame changes are cool and definately inspired. Cutting the shocks, welding, and using the shock mount points is a new one on me. I was thinking about the usual axle plates, new axle, etc., but I may steal your idea while yer not lookin'!

Please post more and larger pics soon...
Not so simple with a shafty because the rear gearcase is the "axle plate". While it is possible, this is the only easy way

mine
http://www.chopcult.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6131

thelowlife
01-11-2011, 1:33 AM
Yah.. everything about this build has been frustrating.. I knew I had the stance dialed in when I no longer could use the kickstand.. ave to shorten it to work properly.

thelowlife
02-02-2011, 9:14 PM
Finished the top tree and the fit is awesome. Just have to do little more cutting drilling and tapping.

<a href="http://s264.photobucket.com/albums/ii174/four_shots/?action=view&amp;current=tree4.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii174/four_shots/tree4.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

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I also got to play around with this guy.. robotic welder, my brother does the electronics and programming for it. Can do something like 2" of solid steel, it will pre heat the steel, change its own tip back to a welding tip and lay some beads down.. CRAZY

<a href="http://s264.photobucket.com/albums/ii174/four_shots/?action=view&amp;current=tree3.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii174/four_shots/tree3.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

And these are some of the cuts/holes that need to be made.. including some holes for the risers. The machine the faces and polish the shit out of them, press stem into the lower tree etc.

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<a href="http://s264.photobucket.com/albums/ii174/four_shots/?action=view&amp;current=tree1.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii174/four_shots/tree1.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

thelowlife
02-02-2011, 9:18 PM
Thanks to Lowbrow Customs got my new handlebars too some Biltwell Keystones. :cheersmate: :killerjob: :clap for you: :D

XFatTonyX
02-02-2011, 9:38 PM
Now hopefully I can get one made without breaking the bank...

thelowlife
02-02-2011, 10:23 PM
If I can get some more material I can make it for you.

XFatTonyX
02-03-2011, 12:16 AM
If I can get some more material I can make it for you.

I would love you forever, Just hit me up with the cost via PM :cheersmate: I have a machine guy but he's always busy making knives

thelowlife
02-04-2011, 6:31 PM
Finished the top clamp with the counter sunk bolts to pinch.. put on risers and new bars and the new taillight license plate bracket

<a href="http://s264.photobucket.com/albums/ii174/four_shots/?action=view&amp;current=bike3.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii174/four_shots/bike3.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

This is my favourtie view right here!

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Top clamp is the custom made one and bottom is stock.. HUGE differece or what? hah

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XFatTonyX
02-04-2011, 6:50 PM
Sick, now I really want one lol

NHMike
02-04-2011, 6:52 PM
Looks great man, I love the tree!

thelowlife
03-06-2011, 9:52 PM
So man handled the motor into the back of my VW to take upstairs to my apartment to clean up. Got a bead blasting cabinet last week so I can lean up a lot of the engine parts.

Frame is now finish welded and mocking everything up, got the rear brake and wheel all together with spacers and front end all finished.

Don't like the stock calipers so I gotta find some inexpensive VRod calipers or something.

Also the pictures of the forks are just to show the approx. 4" that they are lowered.

XFatTonyX
03-06-2011, 10:11 PM
AND you drive a VW? starting to get creeped out :eek:

thelowlife
03-06-2011, 11:10 PM
Haha

yeah got a 2002 Golf GLS

had a mk3 turboed, coilovers the whole nine.

XFatTonyX
03-07-2011, 4:53 PM
Shoulda stuck with the 3. I have a 98 gti vr with all the goodies

thelowlife
05-02-2011, 10:27 PM
Some updates...

Mocked the motor in the frame, tank mounted in the rear. I gotta figure out my hydraulic hoses for my clutch and front brake. Don't know if I'm running Harley front calipers, or the original Honda calipers. I'm using some VRod master cylinders so needless to say some hose adjustments will be needed.

Trying to atleast get the handle bars sorted out with the MCs and throttle body etc. Progress is so slow because of school now that it just finished should be able to get work done!

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Have to figure out my peg mount stuff... stock location and pegs are SHIIIIIT.. Was gonna run forwards to fix this issue.. but rethinking it just for how far they have to stick out. Bought Male mount pegs so gotta get adapters and put the into a coped piece of tubing and figure out a mount location (so far this has been my best idea) HELPPPPP

Get an adapter similar to these and weld or bolt coped tubing.

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Another big job is going to be the exhaust. Don't want to run it down the front like stock.. I want to try and run it higher like Garage Company cb750 exhaust they built.

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I have to build the exhaust completely from scrtach, unfortunately during the shops spring cleaning efforts both sets of my pipes made it into the steel bin.

Well thats pretty much were she stands as of now. I have polished losts of parts and cleaned and begin thinking paint and molding the frame. More to come