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CMA406
08-24-2010, 7:53 PM
Well its time for another build. I originally bought this bike to try and flip it for some money towards a shovel, but after looking around, i think i like the looks of triumphs. Anyway, i got a 71 TR6 motor in a horrid hackjob plunger frame, with a brand new harley rear wheel set up for disc brake, a cool old narrow springer, and a relativley new 21 front wheel. This will be my first real build, breaking down the engine all the way, etc, so it may be kinda slow going. plans are for a flyrite/factory metal works frame, some mini apes.... but thats all subject to change. here are some pics of how i got it and the start of the rebuild.

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CMA406
08-24-2010, 7:57 PM
can anyone give me some feed back on ho this thing looks, i think the cylinders look ok, the pistons are obviously trashed, but wat about the head and such? thanks for any help....

also, has any ever heard of any problems about running a harley rear disc on a triumph? i talked to lucas at FMW and he said he can space the frame like a sporty so itd fit, but other than that would it be all straight? im also concerned that a rear disc might look a little wierd on a old hardtail.....

CMA406
08-24-2010, 7:57 PM
couple more

KT
08-24-2010, 9:05 PM
First off get a shop manual on your model and year ..This will give you tolerances,torque specs , all thatgood to know stuff for the bike, this should be common knowledge but we all know how that goes sometimes ...I have people ask me stuff and my first question is got a manual ? which most times they reply ..no ...

As far as the head goes put your plugs in it turn it upside down fill the chambers with gas or whatever and check it for leaks ...I like to pull the valves and see if they are bent or anything ...I found a slightly bent one when checking the head on my bike ..it is not real expensive to buy new valves and springs then just lap them into the seats ....Maybe get a machinist block or a good level flat piece of marble or thick glass set the head on it and check for any warpage in the headgasket side and the rocker boxes...These are just soem of the ways I have been shown to check stuff ..I am sure there is many a ways to do it though ...


Or just send it out to Wes at four aces or classic cycles any of the guys on here they are all priced fair and good guys...You could have it done that way then do the assembly yourself ...

I think learning is most the fun though personally .....One of the many Triumph sayings but I like this one " Triumph ...Turning regular mechanics, into Great mechanics "

Have fun with it ....

SMChewy
08-24-2010, 9:12 PM
Hard to tell from pics, but none of it looks bad. The pistons just have some carbon build up, which means it was running rich. They should actually clean up and be re-usable if you want. The skirts on them look fine. It looks as if there is still honing marks inside the cylinder walls, which means at some point recently before it stopped running, the top end was done. I don't see any carbon that shouldn't clean out and be fine. Make sure the valves are moving freely, again clean the carbon out of the heads, and you should be good to go. Garbage told me a little trick for cleaning the carbon off. If you can find "Gasket Remover", think it's harder to find cause it's used in meth or acid or something, and hit the carbon with it, it will help clean it off. Good luck with the new project.

SMChewy
08-24-2010, 9:16 PM
Just remember the gasket remover eats gaskets!!! Don't get it anywhere you don't want to replace a seal/gasket. And clean it out good before you re-assemble. Don't want any making it's way into your oil and circulating around.

CMA406
08-24-2010, 9:49 PM
yea man the first things i bought when i decided to keep the engine was all of wes's dvds, and a buddy gave me three shop manuals, with a parts book and some other literature.....

and yea my initial plan was to try and rebuild this with all the info i got, and if it goes south i can always resort to a crediable builder, but to be honest i dont think its too overwhelming, just gotta take my time and get the proper tools.

my plan right now is to get the engine stout and squared away, and then dive into the chassis, etc, as thats what ive done before and know what im doing (somehwat)

CMA406
09-17-2010, 1:36 PM
well i got some more progress on the project, got the jugs, pistons off etc.....waiting on some tools to split the cases from lowbrow, and then it should be ready to pull the sludge trap, and then send the crank and whatnot to wes for balancing..

one question tho, how do i get those nuts off to remove the stator?? in wes's video he uses a long deep whit worth socket, but it seems like a 1/2" is real close to the right size, but the nut is so close to the plastic i cant seem to get a socket around it, or turn a wrench on it??

Bret
09-18-2010, 7:46 AM
Neat trick using gasket remover to clean the piston top. The only thing I've ever used is a can of Seafoam, a green scrubbing pad and LOTS of elbow grease!

Keep the updates coming.

CMA406
09-29-2010, 10:22 AM
ok i got some more progress, still looking for a frame, but cases are split on the engine, everything seemed good and in order, waiting for some cash to send the head, cyclinders, and possibly crank to wes at 4 aces to get done proper, then reassembly! kinda restricted by cash flow right now....

also, when i pulled the sludge trap out it was COMPLETLEY full, i guess thats case and point on why you tear these brit motors down all the way...

im really bad at remebering to take good photos, so here are some shitty ones, but i threw in one of the man cave....

CMA406
10-19-2010, 11:52 PM
ok so progress is slow cause im broke as fuck, but i have a couple questions for some seasoned engine builders...

first, is it crucial i replace the bearings in my cases and tranny? they spin free and easy, and i dont want to waste money on new ones if they are in working order, but i also definently do not want to be pennywise and pound foolish....??

second, i poured gas down the ports of my cylinder head and the valves didnt leak, is there more i should test or is that a pretty good sign that its ok to run?

im getting all my shit ready to ship out to 4 aces soon as well!!

image1
10-20-2010, 8:06 AM
you would be foolish not to replace the crank bearings. Trans, not as big a deal, because you can change them without splitting the cases.

CMA406
10-29-2010, 4:16 PM
well im lame and have no pictures, BUT i have sent all my shit out to wes at four aces. The thought of kinda goin the cheap route and trying to reuse/hope my shit was in good order definently crossed my mind, but anything worth doing is worth doing right, so im getting the whole 9 yards done by wes (crank,jugs,cylinder head etc...), ill be super stoked to get it back, ive also been cleaning the cases and hardware to get everything ready for reassembly....

LinkBelt
10-29-2010, 8:22 PM
I've done about the same thing on my build that your are doing to yours except I sent my shit to Big D cycles here in Dallas. I had the same question you had about the stator nuts and someone told me a half in. thin wall socket will work I haven't found one yet but I am still looking. As far as the barrings go just go ahead and do it you said it yourself anything worth doing is worth doing right. I had mine done at Big D and the labor part of it wasn't that expensive. One thing to remember when putting the motor back together is pay attention it is real easy to get in a hurry and miss something small. I put the whole tranny together and had it all bolted up kickstart lever and all when I looked down on the bench and there set a thrust washer I forgot. Other things that are a must to replace would be oil seals and gaskets. Things to improve that you might want to look into is a new allen headed sludge tube plug and new allen clutch screws. Anyway that all the advice I got for now.

CMA406
10-30-2010, 1:31 AM
yea for sure man, the only things im not replacing on the engine is the cam bushings and needle bearing in trans, they measured out good according to me, and look fine, so i think they should be OK.....any opinions on this? have them professionaly measured?

LinkBelt
10-30-2010, 1:52 AM
Na, I just told them to change them. The needle barrings were not to expensive and the labor rate was good since I had all the barrings changed at the same time.

CMA406
10-30-2010, 10:52 AM
Na, I just told them to change them. The needle barrings were not to expensive and the labor rate was good since I had all the barrings changed at the same time.

was shipping the cases a bitch?

CMA406
11-11-2010, 7:03 PM
not much of an update, but still counts. The bike came with a knock off wassell tank, made by avanti (i think). It had some huge dents in the side, so i decided to try my luck with a ball peen and dish the sides, so far so good. i would say im about 1/2 way, and the bumps look alot worse in the pics than they really are.. i got the big parts dont but it needs alot of fine tuning to make look good, then bondo the unsmooth area. there were also some haggard mounting tongues on it, which i took off and will be replacing soon with some beefy one. Finally, i made a real quick and dirty engine stand, hopefully ill be reassembling soon....

LinkBelt
11-11-2010, 8:56 PM
was shipping the cases a bitch?
Didn't have to ship them I live in Dallas area. I just through them in the truck and drove over there.

LinkBelt
11-11-2010, 9:03 PM
Hey CMA406, I don't think I'd use bondo that shit sucks. It doesn't flex and will crack and fall out on you. Id'e use an different filler maybe even a fiberglass filler in the dished tank. BTW the tank is looking pretty good.

CMA406
11-11-2010, 11:51 PM
Hey CMA406, I don't think I'd use bondo that shit sucks. It doesn't flex and will crack and fall out on you. Id'e use an different filler maybe even a fiberglass filler in the dished tank. BTW the tank is looking pretty good.

interesting man, i will definently research that, so a fiberglass like glue i can use as filler? good to know about the bondo tho thanks man....

SMChewy
11-12-2010, 12:04 AM
interesting man, i will definently research that, so a fiberglass like glue i can use as filler? good to know about the bondo tho thanks man....

It's called kitty hair my man. It's like bondo, but instead made up of fiber glass matt shredded and put in a little thicker resin. You still mix it with a hardener and it goes on just like bondo, but the fibers and resin, versus just polyester resin, make it a bit stronger. Good shit! If you can use bondo, you can use this stuff. Just watch for the little hairs to stab you after it dries.

CMA406
11-12-2010, 11:32 AM
It's called kitty hair my man. It's like bondo, but instead made up of fiber glass matt shredded and put in a little thicker resin. You still mix it with a hardener and it goes on just like bondo, but the fibers and resin, versus just polyester resin, make it a bit stronger. Good shit! If you can use bondo, you can use this stuff. Just watch for the little hairs to stab you after it dries.

word man ill pick some up, i just gotta weld the new tabs on, pressure test, then make it look pretty....

CMA406
12-10-2010, 6:44 PM
got an update, got a bunch of stuff from wes, and his work is awesome, cylinder head looks brand new. Anyhow, here are some pics of the cush drive, and a bit of reassembly, and i got a question, one of my shell bearing has two TINY little gouges in it, is it trash? they are wierd, almost exactly opposite of each other, and i dont wannt fuck up my new ground journal, but i also would hate to have to send these back, etc if it wont make a a difference in the performance, cause i know they are meant to wear away before the journal. Anyway, lemme know what you guys think.

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LinkBelt
12-11-2010, 11:34 AM
Looking good so far Bro. Keep up the good work and keep us posted.

CMA406
12-26-2010, 6:52 PM
another update, got a shitload of parts from lowbrow! also got my rear rim and hub back from powdercoatin and laced it up with stainless spokes, i need to get some more pparts for it then ill have it trued and torqued by a pro. waiting on a couple tiny pieces then the engine will start to look like something, but untill then i got everything clean and staged.
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CMA406
12-26-2010, 7:01 PM
almost forgot the finished wheel pics, i got to do some fine tuning to get the offset right at 1/8", but its close and all the spoke are tight, etc, does this look way fucked up to anyone?
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CMA406
12-31-2010, 1:09 AM
alright heres the start of the rebuild, goin pretty smooth, had to thread file the sludge tube thread some, and the cases took me two tries, and some pretty serious massaging to get the crank to spin free, but other than that all gravy. But, i was wondering if you experienced guys could give me some advice, i think i may have put too much yamabond on. its kinda bulging at the seem on the cases, is this something i should worry about, as its squishing out a tad on the inside too, i can see it by the cams, or mabye im just fuckin paranoid cause i had to do it twice and dont wanna lose my motor to gasket shit... also, i torqued my case bolts down to spec, should i use any loctite on them?
thanks guys
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Choppedtriumphs
01-06-2011, 3:00 AM
This is pretty badassed,....I like it,.. Keep up the good work!

wickedblockhead
01-07-2011, 10:03 AM
i use loctite on almost everything on a motorcycle. red for permanent shit and blue for anything you may want to take off again. lookin good.

dracko
01-08-2011, 3:00 AM
Lookin good! nice work on lacing the wheels. You get the SS spokes from Buchanan?

CMA406
01-13-2011, 11:24 PM
Lookin good! nice work on lacing the wheels. You get the SS spokes from Buchanan?

negative got em off a guy on the JJ

CMA406
01-13-2011, 11:31 PM
alright here a pretty serious update, ill start with the engine. Kind of fought me, but ive been working thorough it, pretty self explanitory pictures. The only thing i have left to do it mount the outer tranny cover, and the rocker boxes, then the motor is DONE (except ignition and small things for start up). this was my first full on motor rebuild and i loved it.
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tranny isself went in easy as shit, but indexing it was another story...
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When i out the head on a played around with the "squish" a little and finally got where i could just slide a 1/16" drill but between the gasket and the head, so i put a lil yamabond on the base of the pushrod tube cover with the seal (not the o ring), wes said it was a little trick he did to keep them from leaking, and torqued it all down.
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CMA406
01-13-2011, 11:36 PM
And now for the other stuff. I got my hardtail from lucas at the factory metal works, thing is RAD. fit perfect and is really made well. this one is 4" stretch with .5" drop. i am being really fuckin indecisive about what oil tank i want to use, but i got a few options to come. should be a roller soon!!
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SMChewy
01-13-2011, 11:39 PM
Nice work! This thing should be sweet!

CMA406
01-13-2011, 11:45 PM
thanks man im stoked its actually starting to look like something!

LinkBelt
01-14-2011, 12:50 AM
Hell yeah Bro that thing is coming along quite nicely.

Moparkevin
01-16-2011, 7:44 PM
wow your ahead of me. I wish I was in your spot. I'm doing top end this year and the rest next winter.. $$$

CMA406
01-19-2011, 10:21 PM
well the engine is done, just waiting to put the rocker boxes on so i can get the motor in the frame. all in all, the engine got: crank regrind, .020 bore on the cylinders, completley rebuilt head (all new valves, guides, etc), trump nut clutch pushrod and brass clutch nuts, all new clutch, and a shitload of new bearings. all it needs now is a good final polish
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the rear drum was rusty as fuck, soaked it some muratic acid, and now its getting turned...
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oil filter mount on, not 100% on this place yet, but its pretty functional.
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and finally, heres some chassis photos. im really diggin the springer, and the bars are just mocked up, in the end i think they are gonna end up being about 2" shorter, and alot narrower, but they are really comfy right now...lemme know what you guys think...
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image1
01-20-2011, 10:36 AM
lookin good!

rusjack
01-20-2011, 10:51 AM
lookin good!
what he said!
I like the idea of trimming the bars down, too

CMA406
01-20-2011, 11:12 AM
yea im trying to make this thing really narrow, so they will definently be shortened, im also thinking about a little more downturn as well.

CMA406
01-24-2011, 11:28 PM
alright fellas got it to a roller, oil tank mounted, and gas tank mock up. its startin to gain momentum so im stoked. went for the plain jane tanke, after MUCH debate...the frame rails are pretty much parallel to the ground, so thats a big relief! also got my wheel back from being torqued and trued, it has a little more offset than i think i wanted, but the guy did was a really nice old time triumph guy and i told him i wanted to be sure i had plenty of room...its also been beaten into my mind by my professors that 3 mounts is always a better idea than two, so i added a thrid to the oil tank, and when its bolted up none of them pull on each other, so no mounting point should be stressed.
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rusjack
01-25-2011, 2:00 PM
awwww yeah! I cant wait to see the engine in the frame.

CMA406
01-25-2011, 2:22 PM
awwww yeah! I cant wait to see the engine in the frame.

soon man i promise, just want to get a little more fabricating done on the frame before i put the nice pretty clean engine in haha

CMA406
01-31-2011, 11:30 PM
well, a little bit of an update, made headlight mount. it still need finishing, and im not sold on it yet. I drilled and tapped the existing holes to accept a 3/8" bolt, then used some counterbore bungs for the actual attachment. i bent the round stock out so i could try and tuck the headlight as far back as possible to the front end. i just took some pics of my proccess, but im not sure if the mount looks too industrial, or kinda big and whack? thoughts?
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image1
02-01-2011, 9:21 AM
dig it.

rusjack
02-03-2011, 4:16 PM
nicer than most mounts

CMA406
02-05-2011, 12:14 AM
well got some electrics mounted today, also got ot off the table and i am fuckin stoked to say the least!
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LinkBelt
02-05-2011, 9:32 AM
Looking good Bro, now lets get some paint on it and a motor stuffed in there.

BLAZ007
02-05-2011, 1:08 PM
ever sell your yamaha CMA?

CMA406
02-05-2011, 1:25 PM
ever sell your yamaha CMA?

yea man its gone with the wind, lives in portland now. i missed it alot, but not so much latley haha:D

BIGWORM
02-05-2011, 1:36 PM
This bike has a really good stance! Good work man..

bhead1968
02-06-2011, 10:50 AM
[QUOTE=CMA406;135568]well got some electrics mounted today, also got ot off the table and i am fuckin stoked to say the least!
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Sweet scoot man.. have you considered a Mag and do away with all those electronics?.. With a Mag I have a total of 5 wires.

Good luck with it regardless...

CMA406
02-06-2011, 11:17 AM
[QUOTE=CMA406;135568]well got some electrics mounted today, also got ot off the table and i am fuckin stoked to say the least!
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Sweet scoot man.. have you considered a Mag and do away with all those electronics?.. With a Mag I have a total of 5 wires.

Good luck with it regardless...

i did alot actually man, and i just couldnt swing it right now. a new high output rotor and stator, and all my other electrics im into it about 450. The simplicity of a mag does appeal to me tho...

CMA406
02-06-2011, 9:34 PM
well got the engine in, and am startin to gain some momentum. had to pull the tranny cover off cause it wasnt shiftin quite right, so i still gotta mess with the mechanism on the cover, it was just in kinda backward (duhhh). also got the rockers assembled, which went pretty well. pretty much gotta do some pipes, sissybar/fender, and then teardown to finish weld and such. Also got a close up of how much chain clearance to oil tank i got, im thinkin it might be enough room....any opinions?
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juicybruce
02-08-2011, 5:34 PM
doing great job. all i can add is you seem to be missing the front of your two head steady tabs. i've tried running w/o any (clean look type deal) resulted in constant retorque head bolts and resetting valves (every few days) which cant be good for head and valve train. Head steadies are necessary from my experience. must use proper spacers or they wont supress vibration effectively. I'm in austin maybe see ya around.

CMA406
02-08-2011, 6:25 PM
doing great job. all i can add is you seem to be missing the front of your two head steady tabs. i've tried running w/o any (clean look type deal) resulted in constant retorque head bolts and resetting valves (every few days) which cant be good for head and valve train. Head steadies are necessary from my experience. must use proper spacers or they wont supress vibration effectively. I'm in austin maybe see ya around.

oh yea man im going to run both, and just make a new front mount. from what ive read (and seems obvious) those a pretty critical fastening point between the engine and frame...

CMA406
02-19-2011, 5:04 PM
well got some more progress, even tho its been fuckin butt ass cold here!. got my fender mounted/sissy bar made. i basically just made a jig on a piece of sheet metal and bent around that. it took me a few tries but im happy with the end result. im planning on running my tail light and plate off the sissy bar too. Also got the pipes like 75% done. my original intent was some high shitgun kinda lookin ones, and i made a set, hated them, and cut them up and tried again. I wanted somethin different, so these are what i cooked up. It took a lot of cut/grind/file...i still obviosuly gotta make mounts and such, but this is the general idea. im thinkin about some parallel upsweep to them aswell, any opinions? im not even convinced on them yet, but its an idea...
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Moparkevin
02-20-2011, 2:56 PM
Nice ride, and progress rate. I really dig your sissy bar, makes me want to do mine over.

CMA406
02-21-2011, 6:39 PM
thanks man, heres a few more picstures
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image1
02-22-2011, 10:16 AM
lookin good.

CMA406
02-22-2011, 11:16 AM
thanks man, im a little paranoid cause i went a little overboard with the flap disc on the pipes in a few places so it might be a little thin, i guess time will tell...

image1
02-22-2011, 12:30 PM
at least you know what to keep an eye on, and how to do it differently next time.

CMA406
02-22-2011, 12:35 PM
at least you know what to keep an eye on, and how to do it differently next time.

indeed, plus i figure with some (3) solid mounting points i can reduce the stress a bit, and if it is to thin anywhere ill know pretty quick i think haha. hopefully itll come to life in a month or so...

Moparkevin
02-22-2011, 10:22 PM
ouch!
It will all be good man.. nice ride.

CMA406
02-22-2011, 11:18 PM
ouch!
It will all be good man.. nice ride.

haha is that an ouch as in put the flap disk down?? no worries i just needed a reminder to pull out the files a tad sooner!
and thanks man!

rusjack
02-23-2011, 9:41 PM
Nice! I dig the shorts / flip flops / snow combo.

LinkBelt
02-23-2011, 11:07 PM
Looking good Bro. I bet you can't wait to get on and ride.

Torch
02-23-2011, 11:36 PM
shorts, flip flops and snow. is that the global warming shit I heard about?

CMA406
02-23-2011, 11:59 PM
haha hey guyswhen its 40 here in feb. ya gotta take advantage of that shit! And yea, im waiting for some global warming to kick in so i can ride!:eek:

Chrisse
02-25-2011, 10:08 PM
haha hey guyswhen its 40 here in feb. ya gotta take advantage of that shit! And yea, im waiting for some global warming to kick in so i can ride!:eek:

Yeah, i really trusted the peoples in tie with this global warming they promised, i've done all i can..

Awesome build! Stoked to se the development.
By the way, could you write the angles and lengths of the handlebars? I've bent alot ot tube thats just crap now, can't get the wright proportions, your's rock!

juicybruce
02-25-2011, 11:38 PM
My first trrumpchop wasent anywhere near as ambitious or badass as yours, massive props. I am curious if your bolt on hardtail allows your drivesprocket to align with the wheel sprocket properly. I've seen a few boltons from "newer" (post 1990) suppliers and they have mostly been pure junk in that they will not allow even a stock rear wheel to properly align with the drive sprocket which is really important for actual streetablity the way to tell is that the hardtail should bulge out slightly more on the left side to accomodate the chaindrive and thus appears crooked because its not symmetrical with the right side. when i see a perfectly symmetrical hardtail i suspect it to be unusable. I would love to hear how yours lined up.

CMA406
02-26-2011, 12:21 AM
thanks guys i appreciate the kind words!

Chrisse- the bars are 10" overall height, and the angles are about 22 degrees downward, and the width is unequal, im gonna trim em down as much as i can once i get my controls sorted.

as for the hardtail, it was made by lucas at the factory metal works, and its really well made. it fit on perfect, and after playing with some wheel spacers, i got my chain aligned fine. I guess if i look at it there might be a tad offset, but its pretty hard to judge because my tire is offset on the rim to give the chain clearance. i had heard all the horror stories of "bolt on" hardtails, and went with this one because i heard only good things about those guys, and so far its seems all good

juicybruce
02-27-2011, 4:44 AM
i keep hearing about "off set rim" thing but havent ever delt with it personally on any of my 16" rear wheel conversions. I wonder what its all about. I always have the distance from the center of my rim to the wheel sprocket equal the distance from the center of the motor (where the two case halves meet) to the drive sprocket. I think its a little over 3.25 inches (approx. I cant remember exact measurement). I consider this to be concrete and not adjustable as the wheel should line up perfectly with the alingment of the chassis and the front wheel all along one straight line and when done so the sprockets will be in perfect alingment too which is imperative if you want to really ride the bike at all cuz misalignment of the sprockets will destroy chains fast and chew up sprocket teeth with alarming speed. I end up with about three eights of an inch of clearance between the sidewall and chain and this is plenty on 2" and 4" extended hardtails with proper chain tension but on 6" hardtails there is so much more chain that it will make occasional contact to tire sidewall but harmless and no damage except visible chainlube spots if running a wide whitewall. Of course tire selection critical as some have more sticking out the sides than others but most cruiser style tires are fine, currently have a contemporary stock harley tire (dunlop) with no problems but some sport bike type crotch rockety tires have way too much extra tread on side walls to clear chain. So anyway, waddup with the offset wheel deal? why is it necessary cuz I've never had a reson to do it personally so i wonder.

CMA406
02-27-2011, 11:09 AM
hm not sure man what tire where you running? all i did was when i laced the rim is set it 1/8" of an inch to the right, and now with my chain on, had i not offset it, it would be way too close for comfort, if not hitting, ill try and get some pics soon.

CMA406
02-27-2011, 5:17 PM
not much of an update, but something. added a little bit to the pipes, mounted my tail light, which im not sure if im going to keep or not. Pretty much just need to add some switches, get the rear brake sorted and its ready to be torn down for finish welding....
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image1
02-28-2011, 10:53 AM
can't say i love the light up there.

i do like the slash cuts on the pipes.

CMA406
02-28-2011, 11:08 AM
can't say i love the light up there.

i do like the slash cuts on the pipes.

funny ya said that, cause literally 30 seconds after i took that photo i got out the grinder and cut it off...

CMA406
03-13-2011, 12:41 PM
well ive been still workin on this ting, decided to leave the light o the sissy bar, cause it kind of grew on me. i worked on a pedal/rear brake rod system, which did NOT work haha, i guess thats how this shit goes, so i gotta rework that. also got a top motor mount made which snt in these pictures cause i was doing the finish welding. but these are pretty much the final mock up before i tear it down to paint the frame and wire, and get the front wheel re powdercoated, etc....kinda boring pictures
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LinkBelt
03-13-2011, 2:22 PM
Looking good bro. looks like you are just ahead of me on my build. Hopefully I'll catch up to ya this coming weekend.

image1
03-14-2011, 8:38 AM
do you have any sort of fork stops?

CM
03-14-2011, 9:42 AM
Those pipes are awesome!

CMA406
03-14-2011, 9:47 AM
do you have any sort of fork stops?

yea im using internal ones, i just need to install them when i tear it down...

and thanks for the words guys! appreciate it as always...

CMA406
04-21-2011, 3:13 PM
holy fuck i am terrible at taking pictures and updating this thread, but i do have progress, which is impressive cause ive been fuckin swamped with school. All my shit with the exception of frame, sissy, and tins, i powdercoated at home. Im just waiting on my front rim to get coated cause it wouldnt fit in my oven, and the powdercoaters here work like old people fuck, its brutal....but the bike is almost all wired, and i did the paint myself with rattle cans and the spraymax 2K clear so it should hold up to gas. im getting antsy to fuckin ride this thing!
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Joneo
04-21-2011, 7:03 PM
glad to see the snow gone,,,,,,seriously,,,, looking good,the more of these i see get done,the more i wanta throw $ at the bonnie,,just need more time at work and might try it, this autumn,for now mine will have ta roll semi stock,,,but one thing,,,limeys wont kill you when you pickem up by yourself,,and usually eat a sportsters ass up,,,good looking bike,,,r,ide da pisss out of it!:D

CMA406
04-28-2011, 8:29 AM
Well i would of had it fired up by now, but im pretty sure my emgo coil is bad, which sucks cause i know getting warranty on electrical components is pretty much a lost cause..

I used a test light and had light at the connections to the coil, but not at the end of the plug wires. From there i checked the ohms between each coil connection, which tested out fine, like4.3 ohms i think. from there i put my red probe on the positive coil connection and my black on a frame ground, and it read about 2ish ohms, so that leads my to believe there is a short or something within the coil insulation? any thoughts?

also just wanted to say thanks to the dudes at classic cycles, those guys fuckin kick ass and have helped me out a bunch on here, especially with sorting out my wiring on other threads and such..

MasterlinkLee
04-28-2011, 4:22 PM
Nice job with the paint, man. Digging the hell out of it. Most rattle can jobs look like ass, fucked up tape lines, bad layout. Yours is perfect and simple.

kay004
04-28-2011, 6:42 PM
it has been great seeing how a dead engine, an old frame and few other parts (old and new) can be brought back together, to life and into a GREAT new bike, through hard work and skill!

I can't find the post in which you described the choice of the springer forks and that of the drop.

I mean, you've bought a hardtail with a 5'' drop for the 16'' rear wheel because of the forks' being over-stock, right? and, are the forks much longer than stock? sorry if the question seems silly...

cant' wait to see more pictures...

CMA406
04-28-2011, 6:53 PM
it has been great seeing how a dead engine, an old frame and few other parts (old and new) can be brought back together, to life and into a GREAT new bike, through hard work and skill!

I can't find the post in which you described the choice of the springer forks and that of the drop.

I mean, you've bought a hardtail with a 5'' drop for the 16'' rear wheel because of the forks' being over-stock, right? and, are the forks much longer than stock? sorry if the question seems silly...

cant' wait to see more pictures...

the hardtail is 4 over with .5" drop. and my springer was 2 over, but i flipped the rockers to get it right about stock length, m,abye a little more cant the bike sits dead nuts level and im running a a 16 and 21 inch wheel. springer was just an old gem that i picked up with the motor

appreciate the nice words, hope that answered your question...

CMA406
05-22-2011, 6:48 PM
well its alive, here are some pics
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Ranger87
05-22-2011, 9:31 PM
turned out really nice man awesome job

CMA406
05-22-2011, 9:47 PM
turned out really nice man awesome job

thanks man appreciate that!

Pete
05-28-2011, 6:12 AM
Wow, love the pipes! Nice job, came out really sweet!

starwolf
05-28-2011, 6:19 AM
Damn Nice !

CMA406
05-28-2011, 10:41 AM
thanks fellas appreciate it!, i prolly put the most time into the pipes, i think i mocked up about three sets and then cut em all buck up haha.

thing is a blast to ride, the only stuff im changing is a smaller rear sprocket to cruise a bit easier.