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Sawbones
07-23-2010, 6:51 PM
Do you shoot? Carry? Just an enthusiast? Post your EDC and/or favorites in here! I'm currently awaiting a permit, so this is my every-day in the meantime:

http://www.armor.com/images/pole005a.jpg

Otherwise here's a shot I liked off the Born Loser blog of Steve McQueen with a killer Mare's Leg:

http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/747/post162312350506261.jpg

beanhead78
07-23-2010, 7:14 PM
i was waiting for this one. this is all i got at the time. little moss. 500 w/18.5" barrel heat sheild and pistol grip
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n142/beanhead78/100_1136.jpg
ive owned plenty of guns but financial situations led me to selling them. but if i could take it back i would have never gotten rid of any of them. but i did keep a pistol. ruger gp100 w/ a 6.5" barrel. i hated that gun. so i sold that just cause i hated it. it was weighted all wrong

Steze
07-23-2010, 9:01 PM
glock 19 iwb. every day, every where. except where its illegal like college campuses bc the anti gun nut jobs think gun free zones will stop school shootings.

KT
07-23-2010, 9:17 PM
I use to carry this one ...Charles Daly 1911 .45 acp ...I put a extended compensator barrel in it ,polished the ramp and matched with the barrel ....

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h1/Morel_Monkey/100_0780.jpg
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h1/Morel_Monkey/100_0779.jpg

Now I have one of these , S&W MP .40 I LOVE THIS GUN ...Fits the hand great , very little muzzle flip ....easy to control ..Holds 15 in clip +1 in the barrel...

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h1/Morel_Monkey/mpsmall2ey1.jpg

Coldies
07-23-2010, 9:50 PM
Great thread, just went to snap some shots and the wife has the camera. Damit.

Sawbones
07-23-2010, 10:09 PM
glock 19 iwb. every day, every where.

I've been looking to get one of these, but I can't seem to find any for under $600. I may join the Glock club or whatever it is to get discounted pricing.

I'm also scouting for deals on these at Gunbroker:

http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/595/pix1841490421.jpg

Kimber Tactical Ultra II chambered in 45 ACP.

Sighless
07-23-2010, 10:30 PM
Aaaaaaawwwwwwww SHIT! I am a fuckin gun nut! I love guns! Ironically I just got back from taking my sons shooting this evening.

My favorite gun I own is my trusty AK47 7.62x39 Romanian, re-barreled with a Chinese Barrel (more accurate and heat resistant)
beanhead78, I have the same gun; but I had to keep a standard stock; because i have the 13.5 barrel and it would be to short with a pistol grip.
Here's an image of my gangster ass pink mosquito. A SIG .22 pistol in PINK! Nothin says I'm gonna smoke your ass like a pink .22.

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/images/sig_MOS22PNK_1.jpg

Here's my Ruger p95dc. My handy right hand man.

http://www.wholesaleguns.net/innovaeditor/assets/ruger_p95.jpg

These are internet images cause I am to damn lazy to take a picture, upload and post, just FYI.

To answer your question. I shoot, carry, hunt and am a supporter of our rights as an American to own and posses firearms. I also participate in shoots on a semi regular basis, ya know trap shooting, long range shooting etc. Any of y'all headed to the TBR will see my shifter is a .270 shell I won a shoot with last year and my brake is a 50bmg I shot in the 800 yard competition (lost)/

tattoodup12
07-23-2010, 10:36 PM
lmfao @ this guy

Lbfam730
07-23-2010, 10:57 PM
Remington 700P .308 WIN 26" barrel, Leupold Tactical Scope w/ illuminated mil-dot, Badger Ordinance rings, Leupold rails, adjustable cheek rest, Harris Bipod, and rattle canned camo job using plants around the neighborhood. Too bad it hasn't been fired ever since i moved to CA last August. Last time it took down an Oryx in NM.

Springfield XD-40 Sub-Compact, specifically made for concealment. I'm wishing I never sold my Rock River AR-15 and Ruger P90.

Good thread, let's keep it going!

Sorry, the pics are shitty.

Homebrew
07-24-2010, 2:45 AM
+1 on Ruger here's how much I like mine, I had a wallet made up with my gun on it.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_bUKKYloInqs/S7ZnpdRluHI/AAAAAAAAARY/PrwDGcHUJtA/s1600/homebrew+wallet+014.jpg

CabritoLoco
07-24-2010, 8:53 AM
Here's an image of my gangster ass pink mosquito. A SIG .22 pistol in PINK! Nothin says I'm gonna smoke your ass like a pink .22.

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/images/sig_MOS22PNK_1.jpg



it takes a big man to carry a pink firearm, it takes an even bigger man to smart off to a man confident enough to carry a pink firearm.
kinda follows the "punch 'em in the butt" school of thought.

i'm a sig guy, have carried sig's in some of the worst conditions and environments imaginable and never been disappointed.

i'm also pretty partial to finely made long range rifle. surgeon makes the best IMHO.

Blink
07-24-2010, 9:39 AM
Glock 19 Sevigny night sights IWB everywhere. Got lots of others, >30. Been a shooter all my life. My other true passion!

JapSlap
07-24-2010, 10:25 AM
Guns, bikes, women, what else is there...oops forgot beer, here are some guns and leather gear for the gun and leather lover.

Jap Slap

Cya down the road

jonnyrtn
07-24-2010, 10:51 AM
Since I think guns and bikes go together.

Here is my latest. It is a Rock Island 1911 clone Officers 45. It has bone handles from the shin bones of a dead Chinesse prisoner (or a buffalo). It aint a high dollar gun but it is a perfect 1911GI clone... and shoots smooth as silk. The knife is my Grayman fighting knife... this thing will survive a nuclear blast... Stiff left arm to the face, 8 inches of American steel in the neck.

http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj91/jonnyrtn/45003.jpg?t=1279989836

Boston
07-24-2010, 11:48 AM
Here's mine: Love this little Ruger SP101 .357 Magnum. I've got a laser mounted in the grip and I can hit a gnat on a cow's ass FROM THE HIP with that laser beam... Imagine seeing a laser in your left eyeball from the dark....should give 'ya the willies....pay attention you would be intruders!!! Might just acquire one of those 40 cal's though....that's some firepower with Lknock down ability!!

http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm82/Bobber59/DSCN1966.jpg

http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm82/Bobber59/DSCN1965.jpg

http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm82/Bobber59/DSCN1964.jpg

Boston

KPkeith
07-24-2010, 11:54 AM
I carry a snub nose .38 in my front vest pocket about 90 percent of the time when I ride. I also have a Glock 21 in .45 that I open carry (Arizona) on my hip about half the time when I ride too.

Boston
07-24-2010, 12:10 PM
I carry a snub nose .38 in my front vest pocket about 90 percent of the time when I ride. I also have a Glock 21 in .45 that I open carry (Arizona) on my hip about half the time when I ride too.


In my state of Alaska...we can open carry OR conceal....no permits required! Last of the Frontier where a man's rights get trampled on at the peril of the intruder! Not to mention, bears, moose and wolf roam the same ground!

Boston

primer
07-24-2010, 4:49 PM
My daily is a 1911 Colt,also Ruger P93,Blackhawk .357,S&W .357 HP. Arizona did away
with concealed permits,and if the gun is made in AZ ,like Ruger,there is no wait period,
the wild west lives

Lbfam730
07-25-2010, 1:22 AM
Here's mine: Love this little Ruger SP101 .357 Magnum. I've got a laser mounted in the grip and I can hit a gnat on a cow's ass FROM THE HIP with that laser beam... Imagine seeing a laser in your left eyeball from the dark....should give 'ya the willies....pay attention you would be intruders!!! Might just acquire one of those 40 cal's though....that's some firepower with Lknock down ability!!

http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm82/Bobber59/DSCN1966.jpg

http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm82/Bobber59/DSCN1965.jpg

http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm82/Bobber59/DSCN1964.jpg

Boston

Love the Magnum Boston!

Boston
07-25-2010, 1:05 PM
Yup! All you need is one of these magnums put in the right spot....nothing's gonna' move again! But then again, I've heard stories of an Old timer up in Alaska who placed a single 22 round in a Brownie and it was goodnight for the Brownie! I just think I have a better chance with a Magnum!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Boston

66triumph
07-25-2010, 5:55 PM
I've heard stories of an Old timer up in Alaska who placed a single 22 round in a Brownie and it was goodnight for the Brownie! I just think I have a better chance with a Magnum!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Boston

damn, I'm never sending my daughters to sell cookies at yall's door! hahahaha...

-A.

pineapplepower
07-25-2010, 6:54 PM
so how do you guys ride and carry? id hate to have a firearm fall out while on 2 wheels

Sawbones
07-25-2010, 6:57 PM
Shit, I didn't realize you were talking about a Girl Scout Brownie. That's fucked up.

Boston
07-25-2010, 7:15 PM
We take our cookies seriously up here.....ain't goin to let just just anybody sell those things! Do Brownies even sell cookies..hell I don't know....whatever they sell, keep the little rugrats off my porch!

What's wrong with you guys?????????

badmojo
07-25-2010, 11:17 PM
Im originally from England,now in Canada,i love guns,gonna get my license so i can get a 38 special,always wanted one of them fuckers,but riding around with one in my pocket,i dunno,maybe cos ive never been around them all my life,seems weird,i dont carry anything,even a knife like my buddys,i need to get outta my English state of mind,even tho we cant carry in the great white north!!

Boston
07-25-2010, 11:24 PM
Im originally from England,now in Canada,i love guns,gonna get my license so i can get a 38 special,always wanted one of them fuckers,but riding around with one in my pocket,i dunno,maybe cos ive never been around them all my life,seems weird,i dont carry anything,even a knife like my buddys,i need to get outta my English state of mind,even tho we cant carry in the great white north!!

Hey Badmojo..the Ruger SP101 is a snubnose that chambers a .357 magnum for good knockdown power BUT you can load .38's in her for "economical" paper punching!

I don't do that...I'm happy loading .357's in her and lighting her off. Upgrade your mind to a Ruger .357 if it's a snubnose you want.

Boston

primer
07-26-2010, 9:29 AM
so how do you guys ride and carry? id hate to have a firearm fall out while on 2 wheels
I carry my 45 in a shoulder holster,my Blackhawk in a western style holster-gun belt,works
fine,if the misfortune to have to use one came up the guns are easily had

djturnz
07-26-2010, 10:23 AM
My daily carry is an Springfield Armory XD9- sub-compact.
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i236/djturnz/XD40C.jpg

My duty gun is an XD45 Tactical. I don't have pics of that.

When on the bike, I will either conceal or open carry either the 9mm or 45 (depends on if I tuck my shirt or not).

I also usually have my KelTec 3AT (aka Noisy Cricket) in my pocket when I am not carrying a gun.

This Ruger GP is my BBQ gun with a western style holster I got from Ruger with the Phoenix logo embossed.

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i236/djturnz/Afterlftside.jpg

My favorite range gun is my Remington 870
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i236/djturnz/SBSLTSideAfter.jpg

I also have a Mossy 500 that is my work horse, a 995 carbine, a WASr-10, and a couple others.


Since I can't secure my handgun on my bike, I don't carry when I know that I can't take it in with me where ever I am going.

Twinkies
07-26-2010, 10:44 AM
oooooh.. I like guns..
heres a couple of my favorites.. both Saigas.. Boris and Svetty, 12ga and 7.62.
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f373/mightywhitey17/guns/Guns031.jpg

My lady's ST-22 plinker
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f373/mightywhitey17/guns/Guns011.jpg

Bedside Sig 229 .40
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f373/mightywhitey17/guns/Guns034.jpg

I could go on all day about firearms and CA gun laws...

*Disclaimer: All firearms pictured with 10 round magazines, magazine locking devices where applicable, CA legal and registered*

badmojo
07-26-2010, 11:10 AM
Cheers Boston,the Ruger does look a great gun,i was gonna go with a Smith and Wesson,but i dont know shit about guns,apart from i love shooting them!!

Boston
07-26-2010, 11:28 AM
Cheers Boston,the Ruger does look a great gun,i was gonna go with a Smith and Wesson,but i dont know shit about guns,apart from i love shooting them!!

You can't go wrong with a S&W either!

My Ruger SP101 is stainless steel and is a heavily reinforced frame. Ruger carries a great rep but my SP101 is of exceptional quality for $400 give or take (At leasty that's what I paid!!!). And it can kill....

Boston

KT
07-26-2010, 12:31 PM
I love my S&W MP .40 ...But I have been playing with the idea of changing out the barrel for one of these http://www.stormlakebarrel.com/barrels They carry a 2 port like what I put in my 1911...anyone every shoot Storm Lake barrels??? Got any feedback info on them ???

fozz
07-26-2010, 12:35 PM
Hey guys , the only pistol we allowed over here ya carry in ya pants , an im not sure if mine fires live rounds these days

badmojo
07-26-2010, 4:51 PM
Hahahahaha!

drumballer
07-26-2010, 5:01 PM
I rock a Kel-Tec P3-AT! Super small and super skinny. I can put it in my pocket and ya never know it's there. With 7 rds of .380 hollowpoints I figure if you can still get me after that I shouldn't mess with ya in the first place!LOL

Also I got a Ruger Mark II pistol from my grandpa and got my Remmington 870 Mag and a Rossi single shot with interchangeable barrels from 12 ga to .22. Pretty cool little gun!

geekdublD
07-26-2010, 8:15 PM
Hey guys , the only pistol we allowed over here ya carry in ya pants , an im not sure if mine fires live rounds these days

fozz, i can't imagine not being able to own a gun.

i just sold my romanian AK, ruger P90, and a SKS 7.62x39 that i never even fired. got the ruger and SKS on a trade for a cb750.

i'm with beanhead. i've said i'll never sell a gun, but hell, things come and go. i'll have more.

now i'm down to 12 gauge with the barrell hacked off, locked and loaded for the perps, or the revolution, whichever comes first.

ARBY
07-26-2010, 8:32 PM
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i236/djturnz/SBSLTSideAfter.jpg[/IMG]

I also have a Mossy 500 that is my work horse, a 995 carbine, a WASr-10, and a couple others.


Since I can't secure my handgun on my bike, I don't carry when I know that I can't take it in with me where ever I am going.

Interesting 870. I hope that pic is deceiving and that mag tube is really long! ;)

djturnz
07-29-2010, 5:45 AM
Interesting 870. I hope that pic is deceiving and that mag tube is really long! ;)

12 1/8 inch barrel. Magazine holds 4.

JapSlap
07-29-2010, 10:41 AM
12 1/8 inch barrel. Magazine holds 4.

Don't get caught with that one 18" is legal, any shorter and it is a Federal Rap.

djturnz
07-29-2010, 10:46 AM
Don't get caught with that one 18" is legal, any shorter and it is a Federal Rap.

I jumped through all of the appropriate hoops, I'm legal.

MegaDON666
07-29-2010, 11:15 AM
I cant carry being in CA, but i have a taurus 651. For all the negitive rep Taurus gets, it shoots awesome, gun didnt break the bank and the lifetime warrenty is great. Its not to much bigger then the .38 Special. Ireally like the S&W though

SMChewy
07-29-2010, 1:33 PM
I cant carry being in CA, but i have a taurus 651. For all the negitive rep Taurus gets, it shoots awesome, gun didnt break the bank and the lifetime warrenty is great. Its not to much bigger then the .38 Special. Ireally like the S&W though

When I was managing a store that was prone to being robbed I carried my Taurus PT140 everyday. Great gun, especially for the money. I shot it every weekend for fun and never had issues with it. It is a shame they get a bad rap from a couple years of being poorly run (at least that's my understanding, not a gun aficionado). The gun was great, a sub-compact that held 10 in the clip, and still had decent size grip for my big hands.
https://www.gilbertsguns.com/productimages/002923.medium.jpg

johncj5
07-29-2010, 2:56 PM
I cant carry being in CA, but i have a taurus 651. For all the negitive rep Taurus gets, it shoots awesome, gun didnt break the bank and the lifetime warrenty is great. Its not to much bigger then the .38 Special. Ireally like the S&W though

I had a number of Taurus firearms over the years. I never had a problem with one of their revolvers. I got nothing but grief from their semi-autos and will never buy another one.

My daily carry gun is a Sig P229 .40, occasionally I will carry a Sig P245.

imtheslime
07-29-2010, 3:18 PM
I had a number of Taurus firearms over the years. I never had a problem with one of their revolvers. I got nothing but grief from their semi-autos and will never buy another one.

My daily carry gun is a Sig P229 .40, occasionally I will carry a Sig P245.

I agree. Had a pt140, damn mag would release at will(from recoil maybe) and leave me with a live round stove-piped. Got rid of it.

I love my Glock 19. My Bereta px4 storm is alright. I have a pair of 357 Ruger security sixes, 6" and
2 3/4"(?) barrel, love them both.

dublinmatty
07-29-2010, 7:11 PM
starting upper left: sig p239 SAS .40cal, kahr k-40, hk usp40c
lower left: HK p7m10 .40 cal, hk p2000sk .40 cal, s&w 325sc .45acp 2 3/4 inch barrel

Plus benelli shotgun by the bedroom door

i am sad by some guns i sold but at the time $$$ was needed

Usually carry at least my s&w 340 w/crimsontrace grips loaded w/.357

samwe
08-06-2010, 1:09 PM
Yup! All you need is one of these magnums put in the right spot....nothing's gonna' move again! But then again, I've heard stories of an Old timer up in Alaska who placed a single 22 round in a Brownie and it was goodnight for the Brownie! I just think I have a better chance with a Magnum!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Boston

.22's are used to shoot your friend in the foot so the bear will get him and not you.
Don't go out in the woods with someone who only carry;s a .22...

Nubby
08-07-2010, 11:13 AM
I conceal carry this 1911 .45ACP in a Don Hume OWB holster pretty much everywhere (unless I'm riding in SC).

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4096/4824502693_c67230acb2.jpg

If I'm not carrying the 1911, I have a Glock 23 .40 S&W that I carry IWB. It depends on how I feel that day.

djturnz
08-13-2010, 11:17 AM
http://www.youtube.com/user/djturnz#p/a/u/0/S8m9AKrws_k

Shotgun stage video from my club.

hyperlyte
08-14-2010, 2:47 PM
here is a few of mine the baby eagle .45 was not available picture day....moss 12ga, win. 20, xd 40 cal
http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww98/n0name000/084.jpg
but i do have this photo of it baby eagle 45
http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww98/n0name000/224.jpg

kingdeadbeat
08-17-2010, 10:53 PM
Shooting after wrist surgery is funny!!!


<a href="http://photobucket.com" target="_blank"><img src="http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w212/kingdeadbeat/IMG_1988.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

KT
08-18-2010, 4:31 PM
Shooting after wrist surgery is funny!!!


<a href="http://photobucket.com" target="_blank"><img src="http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w212/kingdeadbeat/IMG_1988.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

WTH dude are in al-Qaida training program whats with the head gear lol

McCabesCustomLeather
08-18-2010, 6:36 PM
Here's mine, S&W 9mm compact with CT laser grips. I carry everywhere I legally can especially if I'm riding, I have both IWB and OWB made by that McCabe guy. I've been wanting one of those Ruger LCP, I got a seat going out this week and I may purchase one.

http://i586.photobucket.com/albums/ss302/billymac814/5c538ecb.jpg

CRFyou
08-18-2010, 10:02 PM
here's my springfield XD40. this thing can fucking kill bodies. the marine corps issues faggy handguns. so a whole bunch of recruits and i got this fucking sweet beast. i've seen people treat this gun like shit, never clean it and generally be a malingering shit bag, but this thing fires consistent.

kind of wish i got the .45 though. think i'll buy a springfield 1911 cause they're cheap and i'd rather spend money on bikes and dental work.

oh yeah, peep my fucking bad ass hot rod.


word....

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d99/CRFyou/photo.jpg

jonnyrtn
08-18-2010, 10:06 PM
LCP shoots low, has really small blade sites. I adapted quickly and can put a clip in the chest, my ole lady carries it and always drops the second and third round... be prepared to get your dick shot off if you give her shit.

rustrocket84
08-18-2010, 10:56 PM
here's my springfield XD40. this thing can fucking kill bodies. the marine corps issues faggy handguns. so a whole bunch of recruits and i got this fucking sweet beast. i've seen people treat this gun like shit, never clean it and generally be a malingering shit bag, but this thing fires consistent.

kind of wish i got the .45 though. think i'll buy a springfield 1911 cause they're cheap and i'd rather spend money on bikes and dental work.

oh yeah, peep my fucking bad ass hot rod.


word....

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d99/CRFyou/photo.jpg

I've been saving for the XD .45 Shot the .40 a few times and really enjoyed it. Plus it's cheaper than the H&K USP's. No handguns at the house right now. Two 20 Gauges and a .30-06. And my Bear 32GS Bow (personal favorite).

djturnz
08-19-2010, 7:13 AM
WTH dude are in al-Qaida training program whats with the head gear lol

I think he's practicing to rob a liquor store, you know how bikers are. All criminals.

I love my XDs. The 45 with the Tactical 5" barrel is a bit big to conceal, but it works with an IWB holster. I usually rock the XD 9mm Sub-compact. I also carry a KelTec P3AT (which is what the LCP is a copy of). That's a good thing to carry when you're not carrying a gun. It's my noisy cricket.

McCabe, lets see the holsters.

JaySco
08-25-2010, 1:34 PM
http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o131/jay_sco/7b989ff7.jpg

in no particular order: HKusp40, SA 1911, Star B, Saiga .308, Mossy 12ga, m59 sks, 10/22, m38, m44, 91/30, Enfield (Us made) .303, and bedside is a snub nose .357.
Had a couple more but like others here times have been hard.

CRFyou
08-25-2010, 1:40 PM
http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o131/jay_sco/7b989ff7.jpg

in no particular order: HKusp40, SA 1911, Star B, Saiga .308, Mossy 12ga, m59 sks, 10/22, m38, m44, 91/30, Enfield (Us made) .303, and bedside is a snub nose .357.
Had a couple more but like others here times have been hard.

oh hey bro! i was wondering if i could stop by your house sometime... you don't need to be home, i'll be in and out...



sweet collecsh!

scholz
08-30-2010, 3:11 PM
http://i1231.photobucket.com/albums/ee518/stevescholz/L1010072_1.jpghttp://i1231.photobucket.com/albums/ee518/stevescholz/L1010073_1.jpg

QuadCamBastards
08-31-2010, 4:31 AM
I've carried lots of different pistols - Kimber 1911, a couple different Springfield XDs, Jericho / IWI 941, etc.

But I keep going back to the nice and simple S&W J-frame:
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc204/CTFSforum/DSCN3449.jpg

TemeculaTerry
08-31-2010, 8:37 AM
Cool Shots, should of wiped that shit off the top of your lips before taking pics though...


http://i1231.photobucket.com/albums/ee518/stevescholz/L1010072_1.jpghttp://i1231.photobucket.com/albums/ee518/stevescholz/L1010073_1.jpg

beanhead78
09-07-2010, 7:32 PM
today i have become a proud owner of a s&w sigma 40. my first semi auto pistol. couldnt afford the glock but just as good.
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc294/tsengmao/SW40VE.jpg

ATXzombie
09-07-2010, 10:00 PM
heres some of my toys
ar-15 i built out of parts from modding my buddies ar15s
my 590a1 that i love, its my zombie trench gun. i used it this weekend to get some dove.
and my springfield 1911 with wilson combat guts, over 2000 rounds and not one hicup......knock on wood
my glock 19 stippled grips new plunger,connector andsprings this is one of my carry guns as with my 1911.
and my kel-tec that i found in my attic when i was stashing xmas stuff. i bought my house as a foreclosure and found it, ran the numbers and its all good

ATXzombie
09-07-2010, 10:01 PM
today i have become a proud owner of a s&w sigma 40. my first semi auto pistol. couldnt afford the glock but just as good.
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc294/tsengmao/SW40VE.jpg

trigger pull on that gun is horrible
but its a decent gun for the money

beanhead78
09-08-2010, 5:38 AM
trigger pull on that gun is horrible
but its a decent gun for the money
its the safety feature. and it can also be fixed. havent had a chance to shoot it yet since it was buy the gun or buy the ammo. i opted for the gun. yeah i did some research on it and lots of people said the same about the trigger pull. but like i said if i want i can get that fixed. it was the s&w 40 or a kel tec p11 9 mm . i went with the 40 bigger bang for my buck. since i didnt have alot of buck. good start i think

Nubby
09-08-2010, 4:10 PM
There's no shame in picking up that S&W b/c you could afford it over the glock. I horse traded my way into my Glock 23 with a S&W .40 (model 4006 iirc). I much prefer the .40 over the 9mm because of the way it shoots; I just shoot it better. Around here it's getting easier to find .40 ammo and it's getting cheaper too. Trying to find ammo for the .45, on the other hand, requires the sacrifice of one's first born.

I hope you were able to pick up at least one box of ammo. Otherwise, you have an expensive paperweight.

CRFyou
09-08-2010, 4:14 PM
its the safety feature. and it can also be fixed. havent had a chance to shoot it yet since it was buy the gun or buy the ammo. i opted for the gun. yeah i did some research on it and lots of people said the same about the trigger pull. but like i said if i want i can get that fixed. it was the s&w 40 or a kel tec p11 9 mm . i went with the 40 bigger bang for my buck. since i didnt have alot of buck. good start i think

dude. imagine if some dude tries breaking into your shit tonight, and you don't have any ammo to smoke him with?!

you're going to have to bluff hard with that empty gun. gimme your address, i'll mail you 10 rounds legit.



just gotta wipe my prints off them, and you're a family hero out there!

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d99/CRFyou/photo-5.jpg

rooster52478
09-08-2010, 4:44 PM
Here's my two guns. First is the Winchester 1300 Defender. It is an ex-sheriff department service weapon. So it has some external wear from sitting in it's holster for years in the cop car. But other than that it works perfectly. I added the composite folding stock myself and will probably do a few more things to it eventually.

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e92/rooster52478/random/c2f053ed.jpg

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e92/rooster52478/random/dc648cff.jpg

Next is my Kel Tec PF-9. I came across an awesome deal on it one day when I just happened to stop by the tactical store with my cop buddy. So far it's been an excellent weapon as well. The trigger pull safety feature is a bit annoying but I can live with it. The first thing I did was polish the load ramp because I've heard that depending on how old it is, the PF-9 can have jamming issues. So far I haven't had a single problem. I carry this thing daily in my vehicles and the size alone made it worth the money to me.

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e92/rooster52478/random/7a45f72a.jpg

beanhead78
09-08-2010, 8:46 PM
dude. imagine if some dude tries breaking into your shit tonight, and you don't have any ammo to smoke him with?!

you're going to have to bluff hard with that empty gun. gimme your address, i'll mail you 10 rounds legit.



just gotta wipe my prints off them, and you're a family hero out there!

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d99/CRFyou/photo-5.jpg
6182 W. court st
Flint,Mi 48532
and anyone else wanna send hate mail heres where im at.
hey CRF im not to worried about someone kicking my door in. if you check the 2nd post in this thread i put a pic of my moss 500 special purpose 12g. which is located about a foot from my bed fully loaded. and the wifey has been told if im not home and shit goes down just point it around the corner of the door and pull the trigger. i put the pistol grip on there for that sole pupose. but this is my fist legit pistol and im pretty excited about it. just found out today that i can open carry w/out a permit. so tomorrow im going to get a holster.or if anyone wants to come over and drink beers or needs a place to crash my door is always open. just dont try to pet my wife or fuck my dog. wait i think that goes the other way around

scholz
09-09-2010, 1:24 AM
<a href="http://s1231.photobucket.com/albums/ee518/stevescholz/?action=view&current=DSC00359.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i1231.photobucket.com/albums/ee518/stevescholz/DSC00359.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>
heres some of my toys-ruger mini 14, glock 19, mossberg 500, ar-15, and ruger .22

beanhead78
09-09-2010, 1:09 PM
<a href="http://s1231.photobucket.com/albums/ee518/stevescholz/?action=view&current=DSC00359.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i1231.photobucket.com/albums/ee518/stevescholz/DSC00359.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>
heres some of my toys-ruger mini 14, glock 19, mossberg 500, ar-15, and ruger .22


guess you gotta make up for the 883 somewhere. i kid! i kid!

Nubby
09-09-2010, 5:15 PM
I put a M4 carbine on layaway yesterday. Hopefully I'll have it out of the gun store's vault by Christmas. Merry Christmas to me!

I've already started putting a list of toys to add to it together...that shit gets expensive quickly.

scholz
09-09-2010, 11:51 PM
guess you gotta make up for the 883 somewhere. i kid! i kid!

true...very true maybe when i get a bigger bike ill sell you a real gun to replace that pea shooter ya picked up..:)

beanhead78
09-10-2010, 8:44 AM
true...very true maybe when i get a bigger bike ill sell you a real gun to replace that pea shooter ya picked up..:)

at 5'7" and 160 lbs i dont think i need a bigger pistol. my size alone is enough to intimidate the baddest motherfuckers out there. and for the record i ride a real mans.. uh hmm sportster. oh and im actually 5'6" my boots give me an extra inch.

beanhead78
09-13-2010, 6:29 PM
sunday fun, and yes im the short guy. but i got my rambo bandalere
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n142/beanhead78/DSC_0001.jpg
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n142/beanhead78/DSC_0021.jpg
my wife being cute
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n142/beanhead78/DSC_0026.jpg
my buddy andys wife bout to knock her self out
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n142/beanhead78/DSC_0027.jpg
50 cals are pretty fun
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n142/beanhead78/DSC_0036.jpg
35s are pretty neat too
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n142/beanhead78/DSC_0038.jpg

beanhead78
09-13-2010, 6:33 PM
i was trying to shoot skeet with this thing
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n142/beanhead78/DSC_0040.jpg
yeah im tough
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n142/beanhead78/DSC_0041.jpg
me explaining to my wife , so if some black dude kicks the door in and wants to rape you when im not home
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n142/beanhead78/DSC_0042.jpg
as we all know only black dudes rape people

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n142/beanhead78/DSC_0081.jpg
308s are pretty fun

imtheslime
09-13-2010, 7:42 PM
This is always good for a laugh
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djturnz
09-14-2010, 5:11 AM
Beanhead, great pics. If I may, your wife would be better served to lean forward, rather than back. It looks like your buddy's wife has her thumbs crossed behind the gun, that's bad unless she like railroad tracks. Also, uncrossing her thumbs would allow her to get her hand higher on the web of the gun and she would have much better recoil control.

And the guy with the lever gun should learn to keep his finger off the trigger unless he is about to shoot.

So, is that pistol grip a Mossy or a Remmy?

beanhead78
09-14-2010, 5:46 AM
Beanhead, great pics. If I may, your wife would be better served to lean forward, rather than back. It looks like your buddy's wife has her thumbs crossed behind the gun, that's bad unless she like railroad tracks. Also, uncrossing her thumbs would allow her to get her hand higher on the web of the gun and she would have much better recoil control.

And the guy with the lever gun should learn to keep his finger off the trigger unless he is about to shoot.

So, is that pistol grip a Mossy or a Remmy?

that was my wifes first time shooting a pistol. it was my buddys .380 it took us about an hour to talk her into it. after that i got her to shoot my 12gauge. its a mossy 500 special purpose. yeah and that s&w sigma 40 i just bought jammed up on me 3 times within 100 rounds. but the trigger pull wasnt bad at all. my cop buddy brought out a fully auto m16 that thing was pretty fun.

McCabesCustomLeather
09-15-2010, 10:23 PM
Here's my newest. I decided against the LCP as this Bodygaurd has real sites, a laser, and the slide locks back after the last round. And here's the prototype holster I made for it. I'm hoping to sell a few to get my money back for the gun.

Turns out I don't have pics of just the gun, and it's late.

Thats my concealed carry gunbelt too i made.
http://i586.photobucket.com/albums/ss302/billymac814/p-padbodyguard380holster014.jpg

McCabesCustomLeather
09-15-2010, 10:25 PM
Don't be stealin my serial number bitches.

park
09-16-2010, 9:12 PM
Do you shoot? Carry? Just an enthusiast? Post your EDC and/or favorites in here! I'm currently awaiting a permit, so this is my every-day in the meantime:

http://www.armor.com/images/pole005a.jpg

Otherwise here's a shot I liked off the Born Loser blog of Steve McQueen with a killer Mare's Leg:

http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/747/post162312350506261.jpg
Got allot, and use them. Shot a dude, he was breaking into the house. Took a hot one in the leg at the same time. Still won the shoot out. If ya carry it be ready to use it, hesitate and die. Don't wait around for the cops, things get sticky if ya do.

park
09-16-2010, 9:14 PM
guess you gotta make up for the 883 somewhere. i kid! i kid!
Check out the saga 12, that is the next on the list.

beanhead78
09-16-2010, 9:47 PM
Check out the saga 12, that is the next on the list.
you dont know how many times i have watched this.


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bobbed06
09-16-2010, 11:18 PM
Bean, If you like that shit. You need to watch The Expendables.....They use a similar deal and do so in brutal style. Gotta see it

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CharlieS
09-17-2010, 12:19 AM
There's s a cycle tie in to the mare's Leg. It was built in '58 by Kenny Howard, who some of you know as Von Dutch.

dublinmatty
09-19-2010, 6:33 PM
terry is shootin the AA-12,

beanhead78
09-19-2010, 7:16 PM
terry is shootin the AA-12,

havent seen the movie but that fucker holds a 20 or 32 round can. i used to have a wasr14 with a 30 round clip. fuck an ak give me the aa-12. 7.62 has nothing on that

park
09-19-2010, 7:20 PM
The AA-12 is gangster but I don't think that anybody will let me buy one, the saga 12 I know I can get and it looks like ma chopper. Word!

park
09-19-2010, 7:22 PM
762.39 puts um in a backwards motion.

Sawbones
09-20-2010, 8:20 PM
There's s a cycle tie in to the mare's Leg. It was built in '58 by Kenny Howard, who some of you know as Von Dutch.

Wow, crazy. I had no idea. I want one even more now!

ssjones
09-27-2010, 6:13 PM
I'm a Ruger fan. I see a couple SP101 owners here. No CC here in the communist state of Maryland. But, we belong to our local Izaak Walton League which has a very nice outdoor/indoor pistol range. The wife is a better shot than me.....

This is a 3.5" .357 which I polished. I did a little trigger work to it and it shoots nice in DA.
http://inlinethumb32.webshots.com/32031/2754095940062237293S500x500Q85.jpg (http://outdoors.webshots.com/photo/2754095940062237293XOBsYy)
http://inlinethumb41.webshots.com/31656/2790304460062237293S500x500Q85.jpg (http://outdoors.webshots.com/photo/2790304460062237293yDpUWL)

Single Six in .22, this was my Dad's gun, just acquired it. A blast to shoot.
http://inlinethumb60.webshots.com/19003/2261556260062237293S500x500Q85.jpg (http://outdoors.webshots.com/photo/2261556260062237293GXQgnl)

My primary plinking gun, this is a lot of fun to shoot. MkII in .22 with a 6" barrel. I've owned this since 1980. The magazine action needed a little work, but after it feeds just about anything from Walmart, etc.
http://inlinethumb15.webshots.com/44558/2830071560062237293S500x500Q85.jpg (http://outdoors.webshots.com/photo/2830071560062237293jDICzw)

oldschoolsoldier
09-29-2010, 2:15 PM
http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg124/glockanator/Bikes/gunbike.jpg

badmojo
10-05-2010, 5:28 PM
Ok,im going for my FAC (gun license) in 2 weeks and im thinking of getting a Beretta 92fs and a Mossberg Persuader pump action shotgun,i wasalso thinking of a revolver,but one at a time,any thoughts!!

PsYcHoBiLLyRocKeR
10-05-2010, 5:50 PM
something shiny, stainless:D

cHiCoD
10-05-2010, 6:02 PM
my piece of mind

rustrocket84
10-05-2010, 9:44 PM
The only problem I have with the Beretta 92 series is the sidestacked rounds in the mag make the grip a bit wide for me to shoot comfortably. My pops has an older 92F and even with different grips its a wide son of a bitch. Shoots nice and dependable as hell too

djturnz
10-06-2010, 6:24 AM
Mojo:
If you are asking for a recomendation for a revolver, there are many aspects to consider, but I'll try to help.

Do you want to conceal it? What caliber? Factory loads? Do you want to hunt with it, or carry it in the woods for bear attacks? I am going to assume you want a double action and not a cowboy gun.

For a Large, full frame, heavy gun that is worthy of being taken hunting or just generally in the woods, your best bet is either a Smith and Wesson 357 magnum (all modern 357s can also shoot 38 specials for practicing with cheaper, lighter loads), or a Ruger GP100. I like the Ruger. If you are going to shoot lots of hot and heavy rounds, Ruger is where its at. It would also be cheaper than the equivelent S&W. One down fall of the Ruger is the trigger will never be as nice as the Smitty, but I like mine just fine.

If you want bear protection, 44mag has no substitute (unless you want something huge like a 500 magnum). Ruger, Taurus and S&W all offer 44 mag revolvers. Charter Arms used to have the original Bulldog, 44spl in a snubby (short barrel).

If you want something small and concealable, on the large, over build, strong as an ox side, there is the Ruger SP101. For smaller pocket carry, a S&W J-frame gun or a Taurus 85, are nice and small. They can be had in all steel frame (heavy=less recoil) all the way down to Magnesium frame (light equals easier to carry). 38 special is the standard, but 357 can be had. Taurus also makes Rossi guns now too, which are usually a hair cheaper. I personally hate the hammer locks they put on these now, just something else to go wrong on an otherwise reliable gun.

Snubbies can also be had in 9mm, and smaller, though 9mms are somewhat rare.

Most snubbies are 5 shot capacity.

Standard for full size is 6 shot. Taurus did make an 8 shot 357. The new 327 Federal Mag is supposed to be 357 power in a 32 caliber shell. It's meant for women and recoil sensative shooters. I like a full framed gun with 357magnums, 125grain softpoints are fast and have one hell of a flame.

The Taurus 85 family, the GP100, SP101 and the S&W J-frames can all be fitted with Crimson trace laser grips.

Ruger also used to have the Service Six, Speed Six and Security Six in 357mag. Not quite as strong as the GP100, but unless you are going to handload some very strong loads or plan to shoot 5000 rounds of heavy factory loads a year, you don't NEED the strength of a GP, I just like it.

If you are going with a snubby for pocket carry, the DEsantis Nemisis pocket holster has no equal, and cost about $20.

badmojo
10-06-2010, 7:15 PM
Djturnz,thanks for your detailed reply,i would be using it at a shooting range,in Canada we cant carry handguns,i was thinking of a large caliber,but its still early days,still lots to think of!!

djturnz
10-07-2010, 5:34 AM
In that case, you need something big and fun. I believe it is the .480 Ruger chambering that can also fire a 454 Casull and a 45 colt. So there you have one gun that can fire 3 different rounds.

There is also the Ruger Alaskan.

If its just for plinking, maybe you do want a cowboy gun. Ruger Black Hawk is a biggun', or a Vaquero.

If you can find one, a Mateba is an interesting take on a wheel gun.

Revelator
10-07-2010, 9:13 AM
I was shooting some Ruger firearms about a year ago & got to shoot the super red hawk .44 mag, 8" barrell,
dual action, stainless steel. Sweet pistol.
Got to shoot the Alaskan (Rifle) in .375 Ruger. Really liked that one alot.
Shot some others too, like the vaqueros & some semi auto .45acp, but the Alaskan rifle & SRH pistol I liked the most. Ruger had a display at the range & about 20 guns
to check out (shoot). You just had to pay for each cartridge that You shot.
great company, I used to own Ruger stock shares at one time.

badmojo
10-07-2010, 7:19 PM
I was lookin at a .357 magnum.

beanhead78
10-07-2010, 7:57 PM
I was lookin at a .357 magnum.

i used to have the gp100 w/ 6.5" barrel. i hated that thing. seems like it was weighted all wrong

Sawbones
10-07-2010, 9:33 PM
I picked up one of these the other day to bring to our local gun group's open-carry breakfast:

http://www.gunsholstersandgear.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/laserlyte_naa_bayo_011.jpg

(NAA mini revolver chambered in 22 LR)

Got a rise out of some of the guys there. And yes, I equipped it with the tactical laser and bayonet.

Sawbones
10-07-2010, 9:36 PM
mojo:

If it's your first gun...get a Glock. They're dead-nuts reliable. Bonus is that they're cheap and light. Glocks have been tested and put through the ringer, there's a reason they're carried by LEOs and military the world over. If you get a 9mm you can count on cheap and common ammo for target practice and general plinking.

Sawbones
10-07-2010, 9:38 PM
my piece of mind

'Ata boy! When SHTF I'm reaching for my G19 and AK.

CRFyou
10-07-2010, 10:12 PM
I picked up one of these the other day to bring to our local gun group's open-carry breakfast:

http://www.gunsholstersandgear.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/laserlyte_naa_bayo_011.jpg

(NAA mini revolver chambered in 22 LR)

Got a rise out of some of the guys there. And yes, I equipped it with the tactical laser and bayonet.

that is fucking bad ass!

how much is that gun? 200 bux?

Sawbones
10-08-2010, 7:53 AM
that is fucking bad ass!

how much is that gun? 200 bux?

Yeah, they make them in different models, but the one I got was right around 200. They're a lot of fun, but too little to shoot accurately even at 15 feet. So tiny though:

http://www.snubnose.info/images/GunPornNAAMiniRevolver_11A05/NAA_and_coins_5006.jpg

Also, they make a belt buckle and aluminum grip so you can sport this thing on your belt:

http://www.naaminis.com/pix/beltbucklegloss.jpg

beanhead78
10-08-2010, 12:34 PM
speeking of revolvers. anyone get a chance to shoot the judge yet?

Sighless
10-08-2010, 12:53 PM
speeking of revolvers. anyone get a chance to shoot the judge yet?

Yeah, it's pretty cool. I thought it was fun, perfect for home defense. I think I read somewhere they were designed for vehicular defense. when you use smaller buckshot the pattern is wicked wide (due to the rifling) Handles .45 OK not great accuracy but decent. My favorite was use 00 buck (3 per shell) puts all 3 in the kill zone at 25 feet. I want one.

CRFyou
10-08-2010, 2:00 PM
Also, they make a belt buckle and aluminum grip so you can sport this thing on your belt:

http://www.naaminis.com/pix/beltbucklegloss.jpg

dude! that's so stealth!! everyone would be like, "badass belt buckle, bro!"

not even thinking that you can get down with shooting them in the guts!

i'm waiting for sex machine's gun to become available.

http://www.banobindass.com/action-content-img/2010/04/3_gUSPF_4.jpg

badmojo
10-08-2010, 8:06 PM
It will be my first gun,i was lookin at a glock 19, and a beretta 92fs,but im a fan of dirty harry,and i know he had a .44 magnum,too much choice,and bean,the judge looks insane,i saw it on the back of a gun mag!!

livefast173
10-09-2010, 1:21 PM
I dont have any pictures as of right now. got a damn virus on my harddrive. but! For daily carry I have a Kimber Tactical Custom II in .45 ACP of course. and for fun/homedefense/peace of mind after being a paratrooper in this mans army for the past 6 years ive got an LWRC AR. Its the M6A3 and its not only good looking but damn near indestructible. and chambered in 6.8 SPC so it really puts people down, unlike the M4 I carry over here in the stan!

CRFyou
10-09-2010, 7:42 PM
I dont have any pictures as of right now. got a damn virus on my harddrive. but! For daily carry I have a Kimber Tactical Custom II in .45 ACP of course. and for fun/homedefense/peace of mind after being a paratrooper in this mans army for the past 6 years ive got an LWRC AR. Its the M6A3 and its not only good looking but damn near indestructible. and chambered in 6.8 SPC so it really puts people down, unlike the M4 I carry over here in the stan!

i always thought it was bullshit that when i was in the marines, we had a 9mm beretta and the m-16a2 fires a loser ass .223.

put some .45's back in the handgun and some .308's in the effing rifles. one guy with a SAW is not good enough.

livefast173
10-10-2010, 2:49 AM
Whats crazy is now we have a new round for the 5.56. It actually penetrates and stops better than the .308! Better penetration through concrete and steel and drops people instead of passing right on through. But theyre so new theyre barely fielded yet. The 9mm on the other. Waste of time. I just use it for shooting out of the door while moving in the truck. Drive bys in afghanistan?! Good times.

ARBY
10-10-2010, 2:00 PM
i always thought it was bullshit that when i was in the marines, we had a 9mm beretta and the m-16a2 fires a loser ass .223.

put some .45's back in the handgun and some .308's in the effing rifles. one guy with a SAW is not good enough.

Nothing wrong with the 556/.223 or the 9mm with the right bullet configuration. Keep in mind that more things have been killed with a .22 cal. bullet then with all the other calibers combines. My experience has shown that it's not what you hit them with, it's where you hit them with it.

ZUnit
10-10-2010, 2:49 PM
i always thought it was bullshit that when i was in the marines, we had a 9mm beretta and the m-16a2 fires a loser ass .223.

put some .45's back in the handgun and some .308's in the effing rifles. one guy with a SAW is not good enough.


The 5.56 NATO round is actually not bad. You shoot someone in the stomach and it come out the back of their shoulder. That tumbles around and really fucks shit up. Im in the Army and we have rifles that shoot 7.62 which is pretty close to .308. Our sniper teams use 7.62 rifles. Also 7.62 machine guns (M60/240B) are a bit large and obtrusive to carry around for long dismounted patrols. But I have to agree with the 9mm. Those Berettas are so beat up and sloppy and that 9mm round doesnt stop a Hadji amped up on speed very well.

CRFyou
10-10-2010, 3:08 PM
The 5.56 NATO round is actually not bad. You shoot someone in the stomach and it come out the back of their shoulder. That tumbles around and really fucks shit up. Im in the Army and we have rifles that shoot 7.62 which is pretty close to .308. Our sniper teams use 7.62 rifles. Also 7.62 machine guns (M60/240B) are a bit large and obtrusive to carry around for long dismounted patrols. But I have to agree with the 9mm. Those Berettas are so beat up and sloppy and that 9mm round doesnt stop a Hadji amped up on speed very well.


that's good the rounds are getting to know the insides of the insurgent. that should stop those heroin fucks.

our unit didn't get those fancy rounds.

i bought and rocked the XD40 for my handgun. mother fuck a 9mm!

CRFyou
10-10-2010, 3:27 PM
Nothing wrong with the 556/.223 or the 9mm with the right bullet configuration. Keep in mind that more things have been killed with a .22 cal. bullet then with all the other calibers combines. My experience has shown that it's not what you hit them with, it's where you hit them with it.

not quite sure where that .22 statistic comes from.

the civil war rifles were .58 for the most part, if i remember correctly.

WWI was a mix of all calibers. i doubt if one .22 round was ever on those battle fields.

and so on. unless you're talking about animals. and animals don't count since they're not unloading a 30 round mag at you from a dirty, russian or chinese rifle.

ARBY
10-10-2010, 10:22 PM
not quite sure where that .22 statistic comes from.

the civil war rifles were .58 for the most part, if i remember correctly.

WWI was a mix of all calibers. i doubt if one .22 round was ever on those battle fields.

and so on. unless you're talking about animals. and animals don't count since they're not unloading a 30 round mag at you from a dirty, russian or chinese rifle.


Animals don't count? Oh sorry, I was addressing terminal ballistic potential of projectiles in general. My mistake. We can discuss just the battlefield if you'd like but frankly, I'm not quite sure where your statistics come from.

Actually, reference the Civil War, you'd be wrong. Though the .58 cal. was popular and more accurate at long distance, it was not the only or even the main weapon out there. The issued rifle at the begining of the war was the .69 cal. 1842 Harpers Ferry Musket. Other guns that saw service were the Lorenze .54 cal. rifle (about 230,000 were purchased by the North and 100,000 by the South), the .52 cal. Spencer rifle, the .44 cal Henry rifle and lest we forget, the .577 bore English Enfield. About 700,000 of those were purchased. Among others.

WW I. Not "all calibers" as you stated were present on the western front. In fact, it would be easier to list those that were in use rather than those that weren't. I can if you'd like. But I'd rather just reaffirm the fact that US servicemen and women are not under gunned with the 9mm pistol and the .223 rifle. Neither is the general public. I could go on and on about shootings with 9mm vs. .40 cal. Even the .45 cal. is not the magic bullet some folks make it out to be. Trust me on this.

And all this "unloading a 30 round mag at you from a dirty, russian or chinese rifle.": I assume you're referencing Middle East activity. If I'm not mistaken most all of those rounds are of the 7.62 mm variety, right? I dare say that our .5.56's have killed more of them then they've killed of us so the moral of the story is that ya gotta aim!

Nope, I'll stand by my original statement that it's not what you hit them with, rather it's where you hit them with it. Cheers.

willythepirate
10-10-2010, 11:18 PM
it's not what you hit them with, rather it's where you hit them with it.

Face shoot the fuckers

livefast173
10-11-2010, 12:16 AM
If you check this wikipedia link out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5.56x45mm_NATO They have some info on the new military 5.56 round the M883 A1. Its pretty sweet and actually way more accurate than the green tip at distance.

Anyway, yeah, I mean a single shot of anything may not take anyone or anything down. That's why we're taught to keep shooting until the target hits the ground.

As for all the other things being argued. I have nothing to say. I say two in the chest one in the face is generally good enough to end most people. Or just keep shooting face until there isnt one.

I may or may not be able to post pictures of those results later.

bluufunk
10-11-2010, 1:40 AM
It will be my first gun,i was lookin at a glock 19, and a beretta 92fs,but im a fan of dirty harry,and i know he had a .44 magnum,too much choice,and bean,the judge looks insane,i saw it on the back of a gun mag!!

What do you want the gun for? That should sway you on what you need more than anything else. If you get the gun bug then you will buy a bunch anyway.

My recommendations and I'm not all that specific about types.

Home defense: 12Guage pump action shotgun. The sound of racking it will cause someone to shit themselves. It will take down anything in front of it without the need to aim. I don't care how good a shot you think you are, if it is night time and you are scared shitless cuz someone is in your house your not going to get a good sight picture.

If you want a hand-gun for home defense then get a revolver. You probably won't be shooting it all that much and keeping a magazine fully loaded for long periods of time wears out the springs and that can cause it to not load that ever so important 3 and 4th round. One thing about home defense is you have to think about where you live. If it is in an apartment/townhouse or you have kids living on the other side of that wall, then maybe you don't want to get a 44 magnum that will penetrate 3 or 4 walls after going through the asshat that is in your bedroom.

If you want to carry then get something that is smaller. Big guns look cool but big guns can get uncomfortable after a while. I carry a Beretta 9mm and I'm thinking about downsizing. (Beretta's are great guns guys. I'm in the Navy and carry them and on the ship they are crap with the Nato ball ammo but mine has rubber grips and glow in the dark sights and you can get really good 9mm ammo)

If you just want to have a gun to have fun with and plink off some rounds, a 22 is great. The ammo is still cheap and you can shoot cans all day long with them. If you want a bigger one and want to shoot a lot then check out the price of ammo. Some are $1.50 a round and up.

With whatever you get, have fun, shoot the hell out of them and buy more! It'll get in your blood like anything else.

Stratman
10-11-2010, 3:17 AM
You ain't kiddin the bigger ones are getting pricey.My deer rifle (.308) cost a buck 30 a round for anything decent.Hornadys...

livefast173
10-11-2010, 4:37 AM
Its all about loading your own! 6.8SPC is about 1.30+ for a single round, buy the dies and the brass and make your own and its about .30-.35 cents a round! Way better deal. and you get to play with the ballistics a bit.

badmojo
10-11-2010, 11:19 AM
What do you want the gun for? That should sway you on what you need more than anything else. If you get the gun bug then you will buy a bunch anyway.

My recommendations and I'm not all that specific about types.

Home defense: 12Guage pump action shotgun. The sound of racking it will cause someone to shit themselves. It will take down anything in front of it without the need to aim. I don't care how good a shot you think you are, if it is night time and you are scared shitless cuz someone is in your house your not going to get a good sight picture.

If you want a hand-gun for home defense then get a revolver. You probably won't be shooting it all that much and keeping a magazine fully loaded for long periods of time wears out the springs and that can cause it to not load that ever so important 3 and 4th round. One thing about home defense is you have to think about where you live. If it is in an apartment/townhouse or you have kids living on the other side of that wall, then maybe you don't want to get a 44 magnum that will penetrate 3 or 4 walls after going through the asshat that is in your bedroom.

If you want to carry then get something that is smaller. Big guns look cool but big guns can get uncomfortable after a while. I carry a Beretta 9mm and I'm thinking about downsizing. (Beretta's are great guns guys. I'm in the Navy and carry them and on the ship they are crap with the Nato ball ammo but mine has rubber grips and glow in the dark sights and you can get really good 9mm ammo)

If you just want to have a gun to have fun with and plink off some rounds, a 22 is great. The ammo is still cheap and you can shoot cans all day long with them. If you want a bigger one and want to shoot a lot then check out the price of ammo. Some are $1.50 a round and up.

With whatever you get, have fun, shoot the hell out of them and buy more! It'll get in your blood like anything else.
I will be shootig at a range,its illegal to carry handguns in Canada,but im might get a pump action shotgun to shoot out at my buddies place,but the handgun is strictly shooting range!!

beanhead78
10-15-2010, 5:45 PM
im going monday to take my ccw class or to get my cpl however you want to put it. anyways im garunteed 100% to pass. for reasons i shouldnt disclose. anyways the pistol i plan on carrying is the s&w sigma 40. its not your ideal ccw pistol cause its pretty big. any suggestions on what kind of holster i should get to hide this thing? in michigan we can legally open carry so if its exposed i wont be breaking any laws, but the whole idea of getting the ccw is to be able to conceal it. and im not financially obligated to go out and get me a nice little 380 at the time.

Nubby
10-15-2010, 6:54 PM
Picked up my first AR-15 the other day. It's a RRA lower with a Del-Ton M4 upper.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y90/mannjp/RRABW.jpg?t=1287190371

rustrocket84
10-15-2010, 10:37 PM
Bean not sure if they make it for the Sigma, but I bought one of these for my Pop's 92F. He wears it daily, even though he lives in a town of 300 people, and everyone knows he's carrying and/ or just assumes he is. Not sure if the leather makes it more comfortable to wear for longer periods or not, but I've worn it for a few hours and thought it was pretty nice.

http://www.blackhawk.com/product/3-Slot-Pancake-Leather-Concealment,1148,1418.htm

Nubby
10-16-2010, 10:29 AM
Bean, I use an IWB holster from FIST holsters and am able to conceal a Glock 23 w/ it. I have a kydex version w/ cantable belt loops. It was less than $50 for a pretty decent holster. FWIW, a good belt is also important for CC.

beanhead78
10-17-2010, 8:08 PM
Bean, I use an IWB holster from FIST holsters and am able to conceal a Glock 23 w/ it. I have a kydex version w/ cantable belt loops. It was less than $50 for a pretty decent holster. FWIW, a good belt is also important for CC.

im pretty sure the sw40ve is a replica of the 23. got a pic with it holstered under a tshirt?

djturnz
10-18-2010, 6:14 AM
BEAN:
In my opinion, if you want something "in the waistband", a Crossbreed Supertuck (deluxe?) is the way to go. Hides the gun well and fits well. It is a made to order piece, and so it will take about 4 weeks and cost close to $80, but its worth it if you can afford it.

For outside the waistband, lots of people like the Blackhawk Serpa retention holster. They go for about $40 or so, if they offer a model for your gun.

Those suggestions are both molded kydex, if Leather is your bag, Don Hume is a good one, and so is Galco. For a shoulder holster, nothing beats the Galco Miami Classic.

A shitty belt can ruin a good holster. A good belt can make a shitty holster tolerable. I like the 5.11 Operators belt. The one with the stiffiner. Cost is about $35. The Wilderness Instructors belt is the same and just as good. If you want a leather belt, I can't help much other than to suggest looking at thebeltman.com.

bluufunk
10-18-2010, 1:06 PM
in michigan we can legally open carry so if its exposed i wont be breaking any laws,

Might want to make sure of that law. Virginia has an open carry law too but, I'm pretty sure, you have to be able to see it from three sides. I.e. right hip: front, back, and right side. If you have it concealed and the wind blows your shirt up and some jackass thinks you did it to scare them, you can be charged with brandishing a weapon, even if you have a permit. I don't have any holster recommendations for you but if you google Concealed Carry holsters they have all kinds of stuff.

djturnz
10-18-2010, 1:35 PM
Might want to make sure of that law. Virginia has an open carry law too but, I'm pretty sure, you have to be able to see it from three sides. I.e. right hip: front, back, and right side. If you have it concealed and the wind blows your shirt up and some jackass thinks you did it to scare them, you can be charged with brandishing a weapon, even if you have a permit. I don't have any holster recommendations for you but if you google Concealed Carry holsters they have all kinds of stuff.

This is all bogus as far as i can find. If you can find an actual statute stating your "3-sided" rule, please do, otherwise, don't post false laws that will eventually stick in someone's brain and be remembered as the truth.

Virginia and Michigan both have pre-emption statutes that prevent local municipalities from making any laws stronger than the State Law. State law says nothing about viewable from 3 sides that I can find. In fact, in the waist band carry with the shirt tucked in is legal, as long as the butt of the gun is showing. And brandishing requires malicious intent. Just because some yahoo gets scared, doesn't get you in trouble unless they can prove you tried to scare the putz.

beanhead78
10-18-2010, 2:57 PM
just got back and passed my test. now all i need to do is wait the 6 weeks for it to come in the mail. thinking about putting a ruger 380 in layaway

badmojo
10-18-2010, 6:46 PM
I just passed my restricted and non restricted gun tests,so in about 2 months i should have my license,only thing is,i really want a couple of guns,but i really wanna get a roller for a new project,maybe a cheap 9mm like a norinco 1911,they are like $199,has anyone tried one,got one,i think they are illegal in the states,could be wrong!!

BullDog
10-18-2010, 8:01 PM
I just passed my restricted and non restricted gun tests,so in about 2 months i should have my license,only thing is,i really want a couple of guns,but i really wanna get a roller for a new project,maybe a cheap 9mm like a norinco 1911,they are like $199,has anyone tried one,got one,i think they are illegal in the states,could be wrong!!

Norinco's are pretty cheaply made man. A buddy of mine has a .45 and you couldn't hit the broad side of a barn with it outside of 10 yards. You definitely get what you pay for in firearms.

Hit up your local gun show or pawn shops for a little higher quality piece. Just sayin.

samwe
10-19-2010, 1:10 AM
Virginia has an open carry law too but, I'm pretty sure, you have to be able to see it from three sides. I.e. right hip: front, back, and right side. If you have it concealed and the wind blows your shirt up and some jackass thinks you did it to scare them, you can be charged with brandishing a weapon, even if you have a permit.

In free states you can carry open or concealed. That is another option.

djturnz
10-20-2010, 5:26 AM
I just passed my restricted and non restricted gun tests,so in about 2 months i should have my license,only thing is,i really want a couple of guns,but i really wanna get a roller for a new project,maybe a cheap 9mm like a norinco 1911,they are like $199,has anyone tried one,got one,i think they are illegal in the states,could be wrong!!

KelTecs are inexpensive. The PF9 or P11 in 9mm is a decent gun. The triggers are a bear though, much like a double action revolver. They are small enough to pocket carry, yet big enough to shoot well. Not a good first pistol in my opinion, but a good gun if you have the fundamentals down. I have a KelTec P3AT, I call my noisy cricket. 6 rounds of .380 that feel like a firecracker in your hand from that tiny gun. I carry it when I'm not carrying a real gun. I can hit a man sized target at about 15 yards reliably, but not much further. It's more of a belly gun.

Hi-Point pistols are ugly, heavy and inexpensive (sub-$250). I havn't heard many reliable stories of people having jams or malfunctions, but damn they are ugly and heavy.

Stratman
10-20-2010, 8:13 AM
BEAN:
In my opinion, if you want something "in the waistband", a Crossbreed Supertuck (deluxe?) is the way to go. Hides the gun well and fits well. It is a made to order piece, and so it will take about 4 weeks and cost close to $80, but its worth it if you can afford it.

For outside the waistband, lots of people like the Blackhawk Serpa retention holster. They go for about $40 or so, if they offer a model for your gun.

Those suggestions are both molded kydex, if Leather is your bag, Don Hume is a good one, and so is Galco. For a shoulder holster, nothing beats the Galco Miami Classic.

A shitty belt can ruin a good holster. A good belt can make a shitty holster tolerable. I like the 5.11 Operators belt. The one with the stiffiner. Cost is about $35. The Wilderness Instructors belt is the same and just as good. If you want a leather belt, I can't help much other than to suggest looking at thebeltman.com.
My Milt Sparks summer special has comfortably carried my Officers ACP since the late 90's.I bought it with a matching belt,which as djturnz pointed out can make or break a carry rig.The holster is currently 87 bucks.didnt look up the belt but


http://www.miltsparks.com/

billybiltit
10-20-2010, 10:14 AM
i carry a naa mini .22 in my pocket everywhere that doesn't have metal detectors.

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_sAOOOObxJyg/SxZ9upbMBjI/AAAAAAAAAbo/WByDBWxpX6M/s800/dales%20slide-my%20motor%200041.jpg

i count on it to get me to wherever i have my rock island armory tactical.45 stashed at.

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_sAOOOObxJyg/TL8TmTTOGSI/AAAAAAAAA-I/pbei09YjoRw/s800/dales%20slide-my%20motor%20059.jpg

there is nothing like answering the door after just having dropped the slide on my worked over wasr-10 :D,it just gives that warm cozy feeling that insures you that"i've got this" :p.

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_sAOOOObxJyg/TL8Tl8qEy7I/AAAAAAAAA-E/jg6LMzEWmUg/s800/PICT0065.JPG

leon

beanhead78
10-20-2010, 11:42 AM
i had a wasr-10 long time ago traded it for some 100 spoke d's. that was a pretty fun toy

djturnz
10-20-2010, 12:17 PM
Here is my WASR-10, all Tacti-cool. When I finally get an AR-15, I'll put all the wood back on, including the Romanian Donkey Dick.
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i236/djturnz/AKflowers.jpg
I've also been a member of the Kalashnikov Vodka Club for some time.
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i236/djturnz/KalashinikovVodkaClub001.jpg

badmojo
10-20-2010, 10:19 PM
Ok,im not gonna buy any chinese shit,i was looking at a Glock 17 and i think thats the one,oh and a mossberg roadblocker,cos its the most bad ass shotgun ever!!

djturnz
10-21-2010, 5:14 AM
Glock 17 will get it done, but you won't get one for $200, unless its from the trunk of a car.

And the Roadblocker is great, once you remove that shitty muzzle brake.

livefast173
10-21-2010, 9:31 AM
Here is my WASR-10, all Tacti-cool. When I finally get an AR-15, I'll put all the wood back on, including the Romanian Donkey Dick.
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i236/djturnz/AKflowers.jpg
I've also been a member of the Kalashnikov Vodka Club for some time.
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i236/djturnz/KalashinikovVodkaClub001.jpg

safety is off.......just sayin. haha. nice gat though. I'll have to get a photobucket and upload some of my photos.

Sawbones
10-21-2010, 1:58 PM
Ok,im not gonna buy any chinese shit,i was looking at a Glock 17 and i think thats the one,oh and a mossberg roadblocker,cos its the most bad ass shotgun ever!!

Good choice. G17s go for about 500 around here. Maybe less if you go used. I'd recommend getting a Gen 3, as there have been videos posted of the Gen 4 having ejection problems that they haven't worked out yet. If you can, find a place where you can handle and shoot one before buying. Also consider a G19 if there's one available. They're basically the same thing, just a little smaller frame. The accuracy doesn't really change up to about 50 ft. Pretty nice if you ever need to carry it, but living in Canuckistan I suppose you don't get that opportunity as much.

badmojo
10-21-2010, 9:49 PM
Yep,we cant carry em,good job,i can be a bit of a dick!!

hbsteve
10-22-2010, 12:59 PM
Picked up my first AR-15 the other day. It's a RRA lower with a Del-Ton M4 upper.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y90/mannjp/RRABW.jpg?t=1287190371

I just finished building my first AR its a AFM lower, got RRA bcg and six position stock, and DSAZM4 upper it looks similar to yours and a hell of alot of fun to shoot!!!!! NEED MORE AMMO!!!!!:kill: I also conceal carry a .40cal taurus 24/7 pro, say what you want about taurus but it has been 100% reliable

rooster52478
10-25-2010, 6:47 PM
I'm looking for a new holster for my Kel Tec pf9. Anybody know of some good websites to start looking?

A friend of mine got a custom made holster for his carry weapon and it inspired me to find a new one. It was crazy expensive though so I'm not going that route. What I'm wanting is something that fits securely and has a strap to hold the weapon in. With the one I have now I can only ride with it in the front of my waistband and it's pretty uncomfortable. I'm afraid to put it anywhere on my back for fear of it popping out and losing it on the highway since the holster I have now isn't real secure.

beanhead78
10-25-2010, 7:05 PM
i said fuck the holster for the sigma 40 and went and got me the olive drab Ruger LCP today. it was gonna cost me about 200 to ALMOST conceal the 40. and it cost me 299 to buy the 380. which you almost forget your carrying. and 6 rds of 380 hollows is gonna take out mike tyson on meth. and if not your fucked no matter what you have.

Drewwoods
10-25-2010, 7:11 PM
Carry a Springfield XD .40 subcompact.

Also have a Remington sportsman 58 12ga, and a Winchester savage 99f .243.

Have previously sold about 10 other guns.

About to buy a kimber ultra carry or Springfield 1911 EMP

LilGeneral
10-25-2010, 7:33 PM
Verified true on Snopes http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/blairholt.asp

Gun owners.... Look what's on the 2010 tax return....

If you have a gun, I hope it isn't registered!
It begins... More Freedom gone.... The right to protect yourself and your family gone! Now ALL GUNS must be listed on your next (2010) tax return!




Senate Bill SB-2099 will require us to put on our 2009 1040 federal tax form all guns that you have or own. It will require fingerprints and a tax of $50 per gun. This bill was introduced on February 24, 2009, by the Obama staff. BUT, this bill will only become public knowledge 30 days after the new law becomes effective! This is an amendment to the Internal Revenue Act of 1986. This means that the Finance Committee has passed this without the Senate voting on it at all. Trust Obama? You must be kidding!
The full text of the IRS amendment is on the U.S. Senate homepage: www.senate.gov<http://www.senate.gov/>. You can find the bill by doing a search by the bill number, SB-2099. You know who to call; I strongly suggest you do.
Please send a copy of this e-mail to every gun owner you know.
Text of H.R.45 as Introduced in House: Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2009: www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h45/text<http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h45/text>
Obama's Congress is now starting on the firearms confiscation bill. If it passes, gun owners will become criminals if you don't fully comply.

It has begun... Whatever Obama's "Secret Master Plan" is... This is just the 'tip of the iceberg!'

Very Important for you to be aware of a new bill HR 45 introduced into the House. This is the Blair Holt Firearm Licensing & Record of Sale Act of 2009.
Even gun shop owners didn't know about this because the government is trying to fly it under the radar as a 'minor' IRS revision, and, as usual, the 'political' lawmakers did not read this bill before signing and approving it!

To find out about this - go to any government website and type in HR 45 or Goggle HR 45 Blair Holt Firearm Licensing & Record of Sales Act of 2009. You will get all the information.

Basically this would make it illegal to own a firearm - any rifle with a clip or ANY pistol unless: 1) It is registered 2) You are fingerprinted 3) You supply a current Driver's License 4) You supply your Social Security number 5) You will submit to a physical & mental evaluation at any time of their choosing. Each update change or ownership through private or public sale must be reported and costs $25. Failure to do so you automatically lose the right to own a firearm and are subject up to a year in jail.
There is a child provision clause on page 16 section 305 stating a child-access provision. Gun must be locked and inaccessible to any child under 18. They would have the right to come and inspect that you are storing your gun safely away from accessibility to children and fine is punishable for up to 5 years in prison.

If you think this is a joke - go to the website and take your pick of many options to read this.. It is long and lengthy. But, more and more people are becoming aware of this. Pass the word along. Any hunters in your family pass this along. This is just a "termite" approach to complete confiscation of guns and disarming of our society to the point we have no defense - chip away a little here and there until the goal is accomplished before anyone realizes it.

This is one to act on whether you own a gun or not..

<Search Results - THOMAS (Library of Congress)<http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.45> " rel=nofollow><http://Thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.45><http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.45> :

<H.R.45: Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2009 - U.S. Congress - OpenCongress<http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h45/show> <http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h45/show><http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h45/show>

<H.R. 45: Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2009 (GovTrack.us)<http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-45> <http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-45><http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-45>

Please..... Copy and send this out to EVERYONE in the USA , whether you support the Right to Bear Arms or are for gun control.. We all should have the RIGHT TO CHOOSE!

djturnz
10-26-2010, 5:47 AM
Rooster: your best bet to find a holster for that PF9 is to go check out the KTOG (Keltec owners group) forum ktog.org I think? Those guys know their KTs, and all the accessories that go with it.

Bean, Hornady Critical Defense is supposedly the best HP ammo for a 380. They "guarantee" maximum expansion 100% of the time. Lots of people carry FMJs in 380, because they say it won't expand reliably and therefore they just want penetration. I carry Silvertips in my 380 and I also have some Hydrashock IIs that I am going to try.

Blair Holt act has never left committee. Right now it is no threat and is a tin foil hat motion to get us all flustered. Last year I got that email about once a week.

LilGeneral
10-26-2010, 10:55 AM
Just laying it out there because if enough people know the more it shouldn't be a problem. If you act like its not a problem it will become one.

Sick1200
10-26-2010, 11:35 AM
The fact is, it does not matter what we do as voters. What does matter is what we will do as citizens if they continue down this path.

"The beauty of the second amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it." -Thomas Jefferson

"The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government."-Thomas Jefferson

Obviously our forefathers knew what was bound to happen......it isn't a question of if, but when.

Oh, here's one more that fits our great Nation as I sit and type this.

“If once the people become inattentive to the public affairs, you and I, and Congress and Assemblies, Judges and Governors, shall all become wolves. It seems to be the law of our general nature, in spite of individual exceptions.” Thomas Jefferson.

Sawbones
10-26-2010, 12:53 PM
Just laying it out there because if enough people know the more it shouldn't be a problem. If you act like its not a problem it will become one.

I hate this kind of shit. "Verified true by Snopes," when the link clearly says "Partly True." Also, Snopes is a reputable source, but just because Snopes says something is true doesn't mean it is; it's up to each individual to thoroughly and carefully judge for him or herself the merits of any claim. We don't need bogeymen to scare us into standing up for our 2nd Amendment rights, we need clear, unambiguous facts because the facts themselves are strong enough to stand as proof.


It begins... More Freedom gone.... The right to protect yourself and your family gone! Now ALL GUNS must be listed on your next (2010) tax return!

This has not happened. Claiming that it has is a lie, plain and simple.

Like djturnz I have been seeing this email several times a year since it started going around about four years ago. I think it makes gun owners look hyperbolic, paranoid, and dishonest, and doesn't promote accurate discussion about the legal system. Nothing against you personally LilGeneral, but I won't have any part in propagating this nefarious email any further and consider it my personal duty to discredit it wherever I see it.

djmfnk
10-26-2010, 5:14 PM
i have a steyr aug, its fun to shoot.

beanhead78
10-26-2010, 5:21 PM
since you fuckers dont like buying m/c parts, old triumph manuals, or old 70s easyriders( still with the iron on patches) ive been over on the jj sellin shit and got me a nice little ruger lcp

Sawbones
10-27-2010, 9:28 AM
Wow Bean, I'd have bought those Easyriders if I'd seen 'em!

beanhead78
10-27-2010, 3:38 PM
Wow Bean, I'd have bought those Easyriders if I'd seen 'em!

i gave up puttin shit on the classies here a long time ago. i think i have made a small fortune off the jj though. oh and the guys on the xl forum. thems fuckers buys everything. now back to guns. oh and i still have some old easyriders that i hold dear but if the price is right

Blink
10-29-2010, 8:45 AM
Just put this 870 together a few weeks ago. Shitty pics, but you get the idea.

870 Tactical, Speedfeed Short LOP PG stock, Surefire 318lm fore end, 6 round side saddle, Wilson Combat jumbo safety, Vang Comp follower and mag spring.
http://www.chopcult.com/uploads_user/4000/3338/45134.jpg

Revelator
11-02-2010, 10:28 PM
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beanhead78
11-02-2010, 10:44 PM
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you know who ruined that for our kids.

SeaChicken
11-03-2010, 9:48 PM
I don't leave the house without my Springfield XD40, and if I'm heading to a really shitty area in the car or truck I'll throw the Mossberg or a carbine in the trunk for a warm and fuzzy.

themaninblack
11-04-2010, 11:01 AM
I shot a Springfield Armory XD 40 two weeks ago (first time shooting a semi auto pistol) and now I can't get it out of my head.

Dammit now I got to have one.

beanhead78
11-05-2010, 4:20 PM
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nick5
11-05-2010, 6:24 PM
My pops has an xd 9 and a 45...I really like both of em, nice guns

Boston
11-06-2010, 10:07 AM
I hate this kind of shit. "Verified true by Snopes," when the link clearly says "Partly True." Also, Snopes is a reputable source, but just because Snopes says something is true doesn't mean it is; it's up to each individual to thoroughly and carefully judge for him or herself the merits of any claim. We don't need bogeymen to scare us into standing up for our 2nd Amendment rights, we need clear, unambiguous facts because the facts themselves are strong enough to stand as proof.

This has not happened. Claiming that it has is a lie, plain and simple.

Like djturnz I have been seeing this email several times a year since it started going around about four years ago. I think it makes gun owners look hyperbolic, paranoid, and dishonest, and doesn't promote accurate discussion about the legal system. Nothing against you personally LilGeneral, but I won't have any part in propagating this nefarious email any further and consider it my personal duty to discredit it wherever I see it.

THANK YOU, Sawbones! This "chicken Little" shit gets old. I'm tired of it myself...HEY guys...you want to talk politics, try a "political type forum"...please!

Boston

1oldbellychopper
11-11-2010, 1:57 PM
Three things I'm always ready for fight fuck pull guns.

rockaphilly
11-11-2010, 2:04 PM
Love my guns, and my sharp pointy objects and carry at least 1 of both at all times.

You guys better watch out, especially in Texas now, if you carry and wear a patch on your back. The fuzz here is trying to say if you are a patched member of a club carrying, it donn't matter if you got a conceal license, they're charging you as a "member of a street gang in possession of a fire arm."

tuco
11-16-2010, 2:21 PM
You gotta be Shittin me

tuco
11-16-2010, 2:24 PM
Do you shoot? Carry? Just an enthusiast? Post your EDC and/or favorites in here! I'm currently awaiting a permit, so this is my every-day in the meantime:

http://www.armor.com/images/pole005a.jpg

Otherwise here's a shot I liked off the Born Loser blog of Steve McQueen with a killer Mare's Leg:

http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/747/post162312350506261.jpg

Colt 1911, everything else is just a copy

1oldbellychopper
11-16-2010, 5:41 PM
Colt 1911, everything else is just a copy

Amen brother but that "Mares Leg" Steve is carrying wouldn't be too bad.

Fredo
11-23-2010, 4:26 PM
Guns are stoooopid

SDJose
11-23-2010, 5:04 PM
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f280/SDJose/morowarrior.jpg

"In early November 1903, Hassan and about 3,000 to 4,000 warriors besieged the American garrison in Jolo. Armed only with krises (wavy-edged swords) and some old rifles, they bottled up the Americans for a week before being forced to withdraw. Following a battle, Hassan was captured while bathing near his camp at Lake Seit in late November 1903, but he soon escaped. He resumed the war in February 1904 when, together with Datu ("Chief") Laksamana and Datu Usap, they attacked the pro-American Sultan Kiram and his forces in the battle of Pampang. He lost in the battle, and was later killed with his two companions along the crater of Bud Bagsak. Hassan had 17 wounds in his body, but died game, crawling with his kris in his mouth toward the nearest wounded American soldier when the last bullet dispatched him."


The 1911 was called into service some years later when American troops in the Philippines encountered Moro Warriors and their issue .38 revolvers had little effect. They got tired of pumping .38 rounds into these crazed Warriors and need a man stopper round. If you ever run into a guy like the one above, you better be carrying this....

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f280/SDJose/kimber.jpg

wickedblockhead
11-23-2010, 6:05 PM
best fuckin pistol ever


too bad i sold it. now i cant afford another one! now i have an XD45 and ill soon have a moss 590 like this one

ThrottleRock81
11-23-2010, 9:51 PM
homebuild AR15 Carbine next to the nightstand
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/18948812@N00/5203422530/" title="are15 by snoslider02, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5288/5203422530_75863e90cc.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="are15" /></a>

XD40 sub compact in the truck(this pic isnt mine but its the piece)
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/18948812@N00/5203422672/" title="40sub by snoslider02, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4083/5203422672_89c5bc6584.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="40sub" /></a>

Ruger LCP on the hip
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/18948812@N00/5203422694/" title="rugerlcp by snoslider02, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5121/5203422694_4e29c33fa5.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="rugerlcp" /></a>
Wife and sister carry a couple of raven saturday night specials i bought them.
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/18948812@N00/5203422716/" title="sns by snoslider02, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5249/5203422716_19c79eedca.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="sns" /></a>
would like to pick up a compact 1911 for the hip, para warthog or kimber RCP its looking like.
always loved the Walther PPS too.

Fredo
11-24-2010, 2:44 PM
Throttlerocket. If you're looking for s compact .45. Check out the reviews on the rock island armory .45's
Amazing little gun that is sweet out of the box and makes for a great platform for upgrades as the budget allows

djturnz
11-27-2010, 8:46 PM
I have a RAVEN 25 just like that, but I wouldn't trust it to carry it chambered. Shoots good though.

beanhead78
12-06-2010, 5:35 PM
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n142/beanhead78/004-2.jpg
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n142/beanhead78/003-1.jpg
http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n142/beanhead78/002-1.jpg

84bobber
12-07-2010, 11:24 AM
Here's mine:

It's a RIA Government model, with a ton of work done to it. The only things that are original would be the frame and the slide.

http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/2888/my1911.jpg

Jason

imtheslime
12-08-2010, 12:37 AM
Damn Bean, the only thing that photos is missing is your social.

SeaChicken
12-08-2010, 6:59 PM
Throttle get your wife something reliable. I wouldn't trust my life to a raven. Nice AR and XD40 I have a pair of my own among other things.

notchopperdave
12-08-2010, 9:04 PM
Im looking at getting a hand gun for the house, but was wondering what kind of gun lock or safe you guys are using. I was thinking about getting a Gunvault Biometric Gun Safe w/Fingerprint ID Acces. Does anybody using this safe? What are the good, bad, and otherwise?

SeaChicken
12-10-2010, 11:01 PM
I have my guns in a normal safe and almost always have my carry gun on me, but if I was going to get one to just for the purpose of home defense I would get one that is fast and accessable and keep the magazine or cylinder loaded or it does you no good. The fingerprint safe's are a good idea.

badmojo
12-10-2010, 11:25 PM
Im waiting for my good conduct record from England,then i can get my Canadian gun license,i wanna buy several guns,but my "new" 92 sporty has 1st dibs on my cash,afterall this is a bike site.
ps guns rule!!!

ARBY
12-12-2010, 1:53 PM
Here's something you see every day. And it's available.

http://www.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/3c8c28488f.jpg (http://www.freeimagehosting.net/)

Boston
12-12-2010, 1:55 PM
Here's something you see every day. And it's available.

http://www.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/3c8c28488f.jpg (http://www.freeimagehosting.net/)

Really, Arby? Where ....and what's the asking $$$......

Boston

ARBY
12-12-2010, 2:22 PM
In the Classifieds

SeaChicken
12-12-2010, 5:06 PM
Sportsmans guide has wall mounts that look like clocks and picture frames, you can open and put your handguns and long guns in.

PsYcHoBiLLyRocKeR
12-13-2010, 6:10 AM
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t60/PsYcHoBiLLyRocKeR/guns/EVOPHOTOS174.jpg

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t60/PsYcHoBiLLyRocKeR/guns/EVOPHOTOS172.jpg

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t60/PsYcHoBiLLyRocKeR/guns/EVOPHOTOS171.jpg

kt313
12-16-2010, 10:17 PM
he're it is: 410 shells or 45 long colt for all your personall protection needs. loving it

http://i1202.photobucket.com/albums/bb375/kata313/DSC05424.jpg

http://i1202.photobucket.com/albums/bb375/kata313/DSC05425.jpg

http://i1202.photobucket.com/albums/bb375/kata313/DSC05432.jpg

http://i1202.photobucket.com/albums/bb375/kata313/DSC05429.jpg

http://i1202.photobucket.com/albums/bb375/kata313/DSC05428.jpg

beanhead78
12-16-2010, 10:29 PM
damn KT thats a nice peice you got there

kt313
12-16-2010, 11:14 PM
damn KT thats a nice peice you got there
thank you sir

Robhall
12-17-2010, 4:38 PM
How's that thing to shoot KT?

rooster52478
12-19-2010, 12:25 AM
I'm probably going to add at least one more after Christmas.

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e92/rooster52478/79a947ee.jpg

And a shot with my turn of the century-ish Hollis and Sons shotgun. This was handed down to me from my great grandpa. I've never looked into it's history, value, etc. because it just sits in the closet. I'm more about shooting the rest of the guns in the pic.

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e92/rooster52478/99a44c4a.jpg

PsYcHoBiLLyRocKeR
12-19-2010, 8:53 AM
Pretty interesting story on how I got this and the history about this type of gun




http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t60/PsYcHoBiLLyRocKeR/guns/OLDGUN011.jpg

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t60/PsYcHoBiLLyRocKeR/guns/OLDGUN005.jpg

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t60/PsYcHoBiLLyRocKeR/guns/OLDGUN010.jpg

xsilencex
12-19-2010, 11:39 AM
KT how does your wrist feel after shoooting that? i've shot a Judge with alternating .45 long colt and 410 which wasn't bad but that small of a gun has to have a hell of a kick.

OldStfCycle
12-20-2010, 10:47 PM
Earlier this year I had a pinstriper at my shop for a bike. When the bike was done She asked if I had anything else, I had no ideas so I handed this over. She expected a helmet of course. Kinda silly but also different. Didn't give any input (let the artist do what they like) wish I could find somebody to engrave my stainless 45
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LargeThin
12-21-2010, 1:04 AM
My mother's new Rossi .38 Special with built in laser sight.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/1003/brunojones/163982_1495554436867_1474271785_31098235_8312977_n .jpg

djturnz
12-21-2010, 12:23 PM
That picture looks like it was taken from the survailence video during a robbery.

Boston
12-24-2010, 12:57 PM
HEY....Anybody packing a Ruger SP101 should check out this one in OUR Classifieds...

http://www.chopcult.com/branded/classifieds/5275/

I have this grip set on my SP101 and I can hit a gnat at 35 feet FROM MY HIP with that laser beam.....

Boston

CRFyou
12-28-2010, 4:58 PM
i got this gun today. thanks to this thread and this thread alone.

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d99/CRFyou/photo-1.jpg

this fucking thing rules. now i just need to catch someone purse snatching or whatever it is you're allowed to shoot people in the guts for.

beanhead78
12-28-2010, 7:01 PM
i always thought the bigger the better. after i i took my ccw class ive learned its all about the ammo. now in my opinion the smaller, easier to conceal the better. oh and if anyone needs a AK47/SKS manual i have one that will fit in a regular envelope if i can find it. i dont own an AK anymore and dont need it. just let me know.

SeaChicken
12-28-2010, 9:02 PM
i always thought the bigger the better. after i i took my ccw class ive learned its all about the ammo. now in my opinion the smaller, easier to conceal the better. oh and if anyone needs a AK47/SKS manual i have one that will fit in a regular envelope if i can find it. i dont own an AK anymore and dont need it. just let me know.
No matter what you use, the size of the bullet and the speed it travels at are the two most important factors. You can carry a .380, but it is still not going to give you the wound channel like a larger bullet will or stop someone full of adrenalin or hopped up n drugs. You can kill someone with a .22 but you will not stop them and it will take a while for them to bleed out. A large bullet with high quality ammo moving at slow speeds out of a handgun is your best chance to stop a man.

h8ter
12-28-2010, 9:24 PM
A large bullet with high quality ammo moving at slow speeds out of a handgun is your best chance to stop a man.

I know quite a few snipers that would strongly, no, vehemently disagree with this statement.

not to mention cops, and Marines, and at least one Navy SEAL and some big game hunters.

beanhead78
12-28-2010, 9:35 PM
No matter what you use, the size of the bullet and the speed it travels at are the two most important factors. You can carry a .380, but it is still not going to give you the wound channel like a larger bullet will or stop someone full of adrenalin or hopped up n drugs. You can kill someone with a .22 but you will not stop them and it will take a while for them to bleed out. A large bullet with high quality ammo moving at slow speeds out of a handgun is your best chance to stop a man.

i carry a .380 LCP. and this is the ammunition i use. i garuntee i can drop a tweekers ass with 3 rds.if not by the time he gets to me ill use the other three in his head
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SeaChicken
12-28-2010, 11:42 PM
I'm talking about stopping the threat and putting someone down with a pistol right now. You can kill with a smaller bullet like your .380 .25. .32 etc, but a larger slower moving bullet will produce more damage on impact, spread wider and create larger wound channels. In recent years most police agencies across the country are changing back to .40 and .45 because they are having problems stopping people with 9mm. I wont argue that a small high velocity rifle round is not combat effective but that is not what we are talking about. Hornady critical defense is a great cartridge and that is what I carry in my backup .380 but I would not count on it stopping a mugger or intruder in my home effectively as some of my larger caliber weapons. Everyone should only carry the largest defense caliber they can shoot accurately with but it doesn't change the fact that large slow moving bullets work very well on the human body.

rustrocket84
12-29-2010, 12:00 AM
Kinetic energy is where all the damage will come from. Mass (bullet) x velocity (fps) sqaured divided by two. The faster bullet will also cause cavitation after it goes in and sucks air in behind it destroying organs and other stuff quickly. Think of it this way, would you rather get hit by a volkswagen bug doing 90mph or by a semi doing 25mph.

ARBY
12-29-2010, 10:31 AM
I'm talking about stopping the threat and putting someone down with a pistol right now. You can kill with a smaller bullet like your .380 .25. .32 etc, but a larger slower moving bullet will produce more damage on impact, spread wider and create larger wound channels. In recent years most police agencies across the country are changing back to .40 and .45 because they are having problems stopping people with 9mm. I wont argue that a small high velocity rifle round is not combat effective but that is not what we are talking about. Hornady critical defense is a great cartridge and that is what I carry in my backup .380 but I would not count on it stopping a mugger or intruder in my home effectively as some of my larger caliber weapons. Everyone should only carry the largest defense caliber they can shoot accurately with but it doesn't change the fact that large slow moving bullets work very well on the human body.

Some of your points are correct but, don't be fooled by the "bigger is always better" myth. It's not what you hit them with, it's where you hit them with it. There's nothing wrong with the 9mm when properly applied. I'm not over dependent on the .45. I have some but I seldom carry them. I'm more likely to have a 9mm, a .40 or my all time favorite, the .38 Super !

You're right about the large wound channel but people do not succumb to "impact damage." They succumb to rapid blood loss or destruction of internal organs. I don't want damage on impact, I want that damage 10 inches or so past the subcutaneous level. BUT, I want that bullet to expand within the first 1 inch of penetration so it can cut a nice channel for blood to escape.

Gross, isn't it???

djturnz
12-29-2010, 10:51 AM
1 inch of penetration Geez, has my wife been on Facebook again?


Anyway,
You want stopping power?
You want a wound channel?
You want concealable?
Just carry a flare gun with a 12 Gauge slug in it.

Seriously, it's all about shot placement, as stated above. The biggest, baddest bullet doesn't mean shit if you only wing 'em.

9mm is perfect for concealed carry. In fact, I don't see much point in .40 anymore.

But a 12 gauge slug turns cover into concealment.

djturnz
12-29-2010, 11:09 AM
The gun nuts on this board are probably quite aware of who Old_Painless is, but for anyone who isn't, here is a site for you. http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/theboxotruth.htm


You can spend many hours here.
Start with the original Box O' Truth chapters, then move on to the Buick O' Truth, and then keep going. You can even sign up to get an email whenever he comes out with a new chapter.

bluufunk
12-29-2010, 1:05 PM
Dj- thanks for setting me straight a while ago on this thread. Made me look up the laws and I learned a lot. Main thing I learned was to not believe cops when you ask a gun question.

I hear a lot about how the 9mm doesn't have the stopping power of the 45. Most of this comes from guys in the service that was around before the big change over to the M9. I guess they are right but the reason they are right isn't necessarily true for civilians. The military makes us use ball ammo. Here is a good link to the reason.

http://www.thegunzone.com/hague.html

For personal carry you can use all types of yummy and fun ammo. Here is another link that is a pretty good read and sounds like the guy knows what he is talking about anyway.

http://www.chuckhawks.com/ammo_by_anonymous.htm

I like this quote from the link above:
"I cannot stress too heavily that the primary determinant of stopping power is BULLET PLACEMENT. A cool, deliberate marksman with a little .32 Walther PPK will beat a panicky, inaccurate man with a .357 Magnum or $1200 customized .45 auto every time. Whatever firearm and caliber you select, you must practice firing hundreds - thousands - of rounds in realistic defensive scenarios until you can confidently make disabling hits on your target. Tactics and marksmanship win gunfights - not having the latest 'wonder bullet' in your gun."

ARBY
12-29-2010, 3:53 PM
[QUOTE=djturnz;121890]The gun nuts on this board are probably quite aware of who Old_Painless is, but for anyone who isn't, here is a site for you.......]QUOTE]

Basically for entertainment purposes only. Offers no sound theory or evidence of anything. He pretty much sums up the whole site by saying that he does it simply because it's fun to shoot stuff up.

jamesgs4
12-30-2010, 4:46 PM
This is going to be my son's soon, it is a smith-corona(yeah the typewriter maker) 03-A3. It is a WWII era version of the springfield 1903, .30-06. It has the service stamps but I'm not sure if it ever saw any action.
http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv227/jamesgs4/1293748832.jpg

SeaChicken
12-31-2010, 10:11 PM
Dj- thanks for setting me straight a while ago on this thread. Made me look up the laws and I learned a lot. Main thing I learned was to not believe cops when you ask a gun question.

I hear a lot about how the 9mm doesn't have the stopping power of the 45. Most of this comes from guys in the service that was around before the big change over to the M9. I guess they are right but the reason they are right isn't necessarily true for civilians. The military makes us use ball ammo. Here is a good link to the reason.

http://www.thegunzone.com/hague.html

For personal carry you can use all types of yummy and fun ammo. Here is another link that is a pretty good read and sounds like the guy knows what he is talking about anyway.

http://www.chuckhawks.com/ammo_by_anonymous.htm

I like this quote from the link above:
"I cannot stress too heavily that the primary determinant of stopping power is BULLET PLACEMENT. A cool, deliberate marksman with a little .32 Walther PPK will beat a panicky, inaccurate man with a .357 Magnum or $1200 customized .45 auto every time. Whatever firearm and caliber you select, you must practice firing hundreds - thousands - of rounds in realistic defensive scenarios until you can confidently make disabling hits on your target. Tactics and marksmanship win gunfights - not having the latest 'wonder bullet' in your gun."

Very true.... There is a difference between target shooting for accuracy with a .32 and training and shooting with combat accuracy for a real world situation. most self defense shootings and gunfights happen in a dim lit area between ten and twelve feet. I will tell you from experience and training that your heart will be pounding and you will be moving and you wont be able to see your sights. You will not be making precise shots like you can make at a target range. You will be point shooting center mass on the move in darkness just trying hit the target. A .32 is not going to do you much good in this situation because you wont be hitting with any type of precise accuracy. Combat accuracy is generally a four to twelve inch grouping shooting in groups of two one to two seconds apart, ( double tapping ) shooting to make sure you hit and disable your target. Can you shoot constant four inch groups in the dark after running and taking cover while being shot at and shoot with your week side if need be? this why I carry a larger caliber and why I train off duty as well as on.

hoagie
01-02-2011, 9:27 PM
My mother's new Rossi .38 Special with built in laser sight.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/1003/brunojones/163982_1495554436867_1474271785_31098235_8312977_n .jpg

Thats a Smith and Wesson bodyguard 38. Nice gun I just got one.

djturnz
01-04-2011, 6:32 AM
[QUOTE=djturnz;121890]The gun nuts on this board are probably quite aware of who Old_Painless is, but for anyone who isn't, here is a site for you.......]QUOTE]

Basically for entertainment purposes only. Offers no sound theory or evidence of anything. He pretty much sums up the whole site by saying that he does it simply because it's fun to shoot stuff up.

No, I'd say that most of his tests are fairly scientificly accurate. I'm not sure where his standards for the water jugs tests come from though. The wall tests are about as accurate as I think they could be. You do have to remember that much of his testing is more about comparing one round to the next, not necesarily how a particular round will effect the human body.

Also, much of his tests are based on debunking gun myths.

RyanVegas
01-04-2011, 9:01 PM
Do you guys know of any website that sell some cheap ammo or even bulk ammo thats cheaper per round.
I am looking for .45 Colt

ARBY
01-04-2011, 10:56 PM
[QUOTE=ARBY;121977]

.... You do have to remember that much of his testing is more about comparing one round to the next, not necesarily how a particular round will effect the human body....



Bullet comparison is a science, not a hobby. It's a "nice to know" how many walls a round will pass through but it's a "need to know" how much steam that round has left and what it will do to a body after it goes through a barrier. That is accomplished by shooting various rounds through realistic barriers (not ten layers of sheet rock) into ballistic gelatin or tissue then measuring the depth of penetration, the final weight of the bullet and the diameter of the expanded round. Assuming of course that whatever the bullet passed through before hitting the gelatin didn't plug the hollow point cavity.

There really is a lot more to bullet testing then firing into a jug of water. Anything less just creates more gun myths.

bluufunk
01-05-2011, 10:01 AM
Do you guys know of any website that sell some cheap ammo or even bulk ammo thats cheaper per round.
I am looking for .45 Colt

I haven't looked for ammo in a long time so price compare this but I know you can get it in bulk.

http://georgia-arms.com/

RyanVegas
01-05-2011, 4:14 PM
I haven't looked for ammo in a long time so price compare this but I know you can get it in bulk.

http://georgia-arms.com/

Thanks!!!
I just found this website that sells BCAC ammo for dam cheap and the shipping is cheaper too.
Only lame thing is it seems like 1/2 the ammo on the website is on back order.
http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/ItemListing.aspx?catid=721

rustrocket84
01-05-2011, 11:11 PM
45 colt has gotten expensive. Talking to a gun store owner/ friend of my pops his sales have sky rocketed along with sales of the Taurus Judge. I wish they were legal in CA. The new public defender is just a little bit bigger than my dads old S&W .38. Kind of like the bodyguard one above. I think the Taurus is just about a perfect personal defense gun. Shoots very nice and suprisingly easy to shoot. Love these Winchester shells too. http://www.winchester.com/Products/New-Products/Pages/pdx1-410.aspx

or this one for 12g
http://www.winchester.com/Products/New-Products/Pages/pdx1-12.aspx

RyanVegas
01-06-2011, 1:10 AM
Just made a $125 order on cheaper then dirt for 45 colt and 9mm ammo.
First time I have ever ordered ammo online.

djturnz
01-06-2011, 6:49 AM
[QUOTE=djturnz;123798]

It's a "nice to know" how many walls a round will pass through but it's a "need to know" how much steam that round has left and what it will do to a body after it goes through a barrier. That is accomplished by shooting various rounds through realistic barriers (not ten layers of sheet rock) into ballistic gelatin or tissue then measuring the depth of penetration, the final weight of the bullet and the diameter of the expanded round. Assuming of course that whatever the bullet passed through before hitting the gelatin didn't plug the hollow point cavity.



The point of the drywall test isn't to shoot through walls to hit bad guys. It's a test to show what your bullet will do if you miss. Will it go through the wall and kill the person in the next apartment? Will it penetrate into your child's bedroom?

Some of the other ones are about cover and concealment. Is a refrigerator cover or concealment? How about a book case? Is "bullet proof glass" really bullet proof?

Thos are the questions he is "answering".

And ballistic gel isn't a direct analogy to the human body. But it is a consistant medium. If a 9mm FMJ penetrates twice as far in gel as a 45 JHP, it will probably do the same in a body. But that doesn't mean that 9 inches in gel is 9 inches in a body. That's what I mean by comparitive testing. He tests different rounds through a consistant material for comparison.

ARBY
01-12-2011, 2:33 PM
[QUOTE=ARBY;124102]

The point of the drywall test isn't to shoot through walls to hit bad guys. It's a test to show what your bullet will do if you miss. Will it go through the wall and kill the person in the next apartment? Will it penetrate into your child's bedroom?

Some of the other ones are about cover and concealment. Is a refrigerator cover or concealment? How about a book case? Is "bullet proof glass" really bullet proof?

Thos are the questions he is "answering".

And ballistic gel isn't a direct analogy to the human body. But it is a consistant medium. If a 9mm FMJ penetrates twice as far in gel as a 45 JHP, it will probably do the same in a body. But that doesn't mean that 9 inches in gel is 9 inches in a body. That's what I mean by comparitive testing. He tests different rounds through a consistant material for comparison.

OK, but if I'm reading your last paragraph correctly then his comparisons are not reaching any useful conclusion. Just what maybe, might, possibly, hypothetically could happen sometimes.

When I've done bullet testing and comparison I'm seeking useful date. I've set up a gel block that had bone cast in it. This tells me what kind of damage can be expected after the bullet passes through bone. I've done the same test with a car windshield/door in front of the gel block. Even clothing to see what the effect is on expansion when the hollow point cavity is plugged or compromised by the cloth.

Shade tree ballistics is like I said, entertaining. But when lives depend on factual data, youtube video can be a bit misleading. It is fun to watch though. Just don't put a lot of stock in it.

JesseMFE
01-16-2011, 6:29 PM
This is what I'm carrying right now. 410 or 45 long colt. Good and compact but only two shots. I'd like to find a nice compact semi auto 9 but not sure what to get.
http://www.chopcult.com/uploads_user/4000/3095/49264.jpg

LDNCLR
01-17-2011, 10:55 AM
This is what I'm carrying right now. 410 or 45 long colt. Good and compact but only two shots. I'd like to find a nice compact semi auto 9 but not sure what to get.
http://www.chopcult.com/uploads_user/4000/3095/49264.jpg

look into the walther PPS 9mm or 40. Its crazy narrow for concealed carry. Im no expert but I enjoy mine.

a5tach
01-17-2011, 3:50 PM
Anyone ever check out atlasammo.com? I ordered some 12ga shells from there..man they do some damage!

badmojo
01-31-2011, 1:01 PM
So what do you guys think of Para Ordnance,I was looking at a 1911,GI Expert,any ideas?

ARBY
01-31-2011, 7:07 PM
So what do you guys think of Para Ordnance,I was looking at a 1911,GI Expert,any ideas?

Not much. Very troublesome guns. Feeding problems among other things.

CRFyou
01-31-2011, 8:10 PM
So what do you guys think of Para Ordnance,I was looking at a 1911,GI Expert,any ideas?

check out the springfield 1911 range officer. pretty affordable match grade weapon.

http://gunsgunsguns.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Springfield-Range-Officer.gif

rustrocket84
01-31-2011, 8:40 PM
LIke the other guys said have some problems, especially with cheap ammo.

badmojo
01-31-2011, 10:35 PM
That Springfield looks great,but i saw some reviews that said it had some of the same problems as the para,but putting a new magazine helps sole them problems,but ive not shot one,onlt read about them!!

nvcowboy
02-01-2011, 2:38 PM
I was turned on to Para by a buddy who was in special forces. I trust his opinion because he actually made his living with his. I currently own two LDAs, a .45 and a 9mm, and neither has had any issues. I purchased the 45 used and the 9 new, and I only shoot cheap ammo when I am plinking. I haven't shot the wart hawgs, so I don't know how they are, but I love the LDA.

bluufunk
02-03-2011, 2:41 AM
Have any of you heard if they are doing a 100 year anniversary 1911 this year? And if so, where to get one?

djturnz
02-03-2011, 6:57 AM
Have any of you heard if they are doing a 100 year anniversary 1911 this year? And if so, where to get one?

I would think that everybody that makes the 1911 will have one. My club is holding a 1911 only shoot to celebrate it. We are having it on the 10th Anniversary of the 9-11 attacks.

TemeculaTerry
02-03-2011, 8:04 AM
I've been shopping around for a 1911 recently, just havnt bit the bullet yet due to ignorance. This thread has been bad ass for that reason alone.

Like I said I'm lookin so if anyone has one for a dent deal let me know. I'm a cheap sum bitch lol

badmojo
02-03-2011, 8:20 AM
I've just goty license and I really like the 1911,so many to choose,I wanna find a good one for under a grand!!!

JapSlap
02-03-2011, 10:18 AM
I have a Springfield GI.45 in stainless steel that I use for Cowboy Action Wild Bunch Shooting and it eats anything I feed it as far as ammo goes, I also have a Para-Ordnance P12-45 which hangs up, I need to take to the range and give it a good break in of 200 to 500 rounds and see what it's problem is could be the clip. I really think you can't go wrong with the Springfield line they are good guns for the money. Here are some pics of my Springfield pimped out with mother of pearl grips, don't have one of my Para.


11434

11435

11436

Fredo
02-03-2011, 10:23 AM
I've been shopping around for a 1911 recently, just havnt bit the bullet yet due to ignorance. This thread has been bad ass for that reason alone.

Like I said I'm lookin so if anyone has one for a dent deal let me know. I'm a cheap sum bitch lol


If you're looking for a cheap 1911 that goes bang everytime you pull the trigger check out Rock Island Armory. Under 500 bones at turnners all day long.
Also the reviews I've checked say it is a great platform for upgrades done the road. Trigger is nicer then kimbers out of the box.

ARBY
02-03-2011, 11:05 AM
I don't always carry a .45, but when I do, I prefer my Springfield TRP.http://www.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/31804835b8.jpg (http://www.freeimagehosting.net/)

http://www.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/c6e33b94bc.jpg (http://www.freeimagehosting.net/)

badmojo
02-03-2011, 12:19 PM
Those springfields look great and now I've done more searching on the internerd they have great reviews,pity they are so hard to find in Canada!!!

ARBY
02-03-2011, 12:37 PM
Those springfields look great and now I've done more searching on the internerd they have great reviews,pity they are so hard to find in Canada!!!

Thought you couldn't have guns up there.

badmojo
02-03-2011, 1:06 PM
We can't carry or conceal, other than that we are golden!!!

billdozer
02-03-2011, 1:13 PM
I have a Springfield Operator and have had no issues. I didn't shoot range ammo through it until I had gone through about 250 rounds of good stuff. I had one stoppage in the first couple mags and then nothing since. I shot the GI model too and thought it felt like a great pistol and a good value.

MegaDON666
02-03-2011, 1:23 PM
If you're looking for a cheap 1911 that goes bang everytime you pull the trigger check out Rock Island Armory. Under 500 bones at turnners all day long.
Also the reviews I've checked say it is a great platform for upgrades done the road. Trigger is nicer then kimbers out of the box.

I saw one the other day, I would never buy a gun without shooting one, and there are no ranges around here that carry them. Now I need to find a gunsmith

jonnyrtn
02-03-2011, 1:30 PM
I've been shopping around for a 1911 recently, just havnt bit the bullet yet due to ignorance. This thread has been bad ass for that reason alone.

Like I said I'm lookin so if anyone has one for a dent deal let me know. I'm a cheap sum bitch lol

I gots one of them Rock Island 1911's Terry... I love the thing. It sits on my night stand and watches me sleep.

I have posted this before... Under $500.00

http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj91/jonnyrtn/45003.jpg?t=1296761337

billdozer
02-03-2011, 1:45 PM
Originally Posted by TemeculaTerry
I've been shopping around for a 1911 recently, just havnt bit the bullet yet due to ignorance. This thread has been bad ass for that reason alone.

Like I said I'm lookin so if anyone has one for a dent deal let me know. I'm a cheap sum bitch lol


Terry, do your research and then call down to Ironsights in Oceanside to see what range guns they have available. They obviously don't have everything, but they have a lot of different stuff you can shoot. I'll go down there with mine and let you poke holes with it and see what you think. I shot the SA GI there and bought my pistol from them. I was pleased with the experience which is more than I can say for our local joint, The Shootist. Those dudes acted like they were Rambo and that a Springfield was like hen's teeth, blah blah. One call to Ironsights and it was a different story and no attitude.