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chopperbob1313
09-04-2018, 11:39 AM
I found a set of handlebars that I like. Trouble is they have a 3" rise And I want them flat track style. My question is, could the rise be flattened out with a machine press and not crack or weaken the metal if the entire bar is flattened at once? Thanks for any help.

Revelator
09-04-2018, 11:45 AM
87024

Hoghead
09-04-2018, 12:22 PM
This is a send-up, right?

Luky
09-04-2018, 12:46 PM
I found a set of handlebars that I like. Trouble is they have a 3" rise And I want them flat track style. My question is, could the rise be flattened out with a machine press and not crack or weaken the metal if the entire bar is flattened at once? Thanks for any help.

NO they cannot be smashed flat. Flat track bars does NOT mean the handlebars are flat.
Flat track bars are a particular style of handlebars. You can look that up on the internet.

tzienlee
09-04-2018, 1:07 PM
don't be a cheap fuck,...
just buy the ones you want to end up with,....
flat bars/Drag bars are as cheap as cow shit and about as easy to get hold of......

Tattooo
09-04-2018, 1:38 PM
I found a set of handlebars that I like. Trouble is they have a 3" rise And I want them flat track style. My question is, could the rise be flattened out with a machine press and not crack or weaken the metal if the entire bar is flattened at once? Thanks for any help.

LOL LOL LOL Thank you I needed a good laugh today... LOL

You must not like them to much if you want to change them.... LOL

farmall
09-04-2018, 3:08 PM
Comedy gold.

hillcat
09-04-2018, 3:57 PM
I have some like these for sale. Black, maybe 1 ˝" rise.
https://accessories.harley-davidson.eu/product/56981-07/black-handlebar-for-night-rodsup/sup-special

Spots13
09-04-2018, 5:19 PM
If you want flat bars just order a drag bar. Drag bars are 0 rise and can be bought for $30 or so brand new.

chopperbob1313
09-04-2018, 5:24 PM
Are you people serious??!!! I don't mean crush the bars flat, I meant to take the rise out! Duh. Secondly drag bars are NOT flat track bars. Tracker bars are more of a u shape and I need real wide like 34" and at least 14" of pull back to clear the tank. As for being cheap , all the places that custom make them want at least 175.00 and almost as much to chrome them! The closest thing I find are a type of beach bar but I want them with NO RISE so I asked about flattening the rise out. Now are we clear??????????????

Tattooo
09-04-2018, 5:41 PM
Are you people serious??!!! I don't mean crush the bars flat, I meant to take the rise out! Duh. Secondly drag bars are NOT flat track bars. Tracker bars are more of a u shape and I need real wide like 34" and at least 14" of pull back to clear the tank. As for being cheap , all the places that custom make them want at least 175.00 and almost as much to chrome them! The closest thing I find are a type of beach bar but I want them with NO RISE so I asked about flattening the rise out. Now are we clear??????????????


LOL So you are serious.... Ok how do you take the rise out??? If you take the rise out they are flat and turned on each end... Think about what your asking.....

Lets make this easier.... What about posting some pics of what your talking about....

hillcat
09-04-2018, 5:45 PM
Waitasec... are you talking about Board-tracker bars? Kinda look like upside-down bicycle handlebars?

Tattooo
09-04-2018, 5:53 PM
Waitasec... are you talking about Board-tracker bars? Kinda look like upside-down bicycle handlebars?

I'm not sure either... I sure hope he can post some pics of what he's talking about....

farmall
09-04-2018, 6:07 PM
We are clear now that you bothered to accurately describe what you wanted! That's YOUR job. If I could read minds over the internet I'd be rich enough to buy a Vincent for every day of the week.

The 1970s are over and the prices you quoted are reasonable for CUSTOM work, whose prices are not to be compared to mass production where one time consuming setup process is paid for over many, many parts. Due to EPA regs (driven by the amazingly nasty waste from old style cyanide plating operations) chrome ain't cheap.

A previously bent tube like your existing bar will be impractical to modify accurately because of multiple bends and straightening then re-bending thin tubing is asking for a failure down the road.

This is a nice piece on DIY bar bending. You can see how much work is involved. http://www.bigdogbiker.com/threads/howto-make-your-own-handlebars.20062/

Torch bending works nicely. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BEMbBl39Vg

You can make your own and pay for plating or use a different coating (all plating eventually pits or peels rendering the part scrap). You can use stainless and polish it which is more money for metal but polished stainless has a nice nickel-like finish. I won't buy any more chrome bars unless I've good reason.

Now you see why custom bars aren't cheap. Normal fab shop rates can be well over 100 dollars an hour because you aren't just paying the worker, you are paying for business expenses and overhead. Not paying those rates will pay for a lot of tools instead, and you get to keep the tools. Your call.

chopperbob1313
09-04-2018, 7:55 PM
How can I post a picture of what I"m talking about when nobody has them?? And believe me I've been looking a long time. This is going way off the main question. ALL I wanted to know was if the low rise in a handlebar could be pressed out. That's all.

Tattooo
09-04-2018, 7:57 PM
How can I post a picture of what I"m talking about when nobody has them?? And believe me I've been looking a long time. This is going way off the main question. ALL I wanted to know was if the low rise in a handlebar could be pressed out. That's all.

The answer is no..... Can you post a pic of what you have right now??

hillcat
09-05-2018, 5:00 AM
How can I post a picture of what I"m talking about when nobody has them?? And believe me I've been looking a long time. This is going way off the main question. ALL I wanted to know was if the low rise in a handlebar could be pressed out. That's all.

You are 68 yo in your profile and you ask a question and give attitude like a young 'un.
Good luck to you.

rockman96
09-05-2018, 5:09 AM
How can I post a picture of what I"m talking about when nobody has them?? And believe me I've been looking a long time. This is going way off the main question. ALL I wanted to know was if the low rise in a handlebar could be pressed out. That's all.

There is no way to do this without it ending up with all sorts of irregularities, divets, etc... it would look like pure ass.

Do you know of any frame shops in your area? You could always get a piece of 1” DOM tubing and bend up a set yourself, but you’d still have to get them played or coated. Farmall is right, there is no cheap way to do it. Sorry.

Sky
09-05-2018, 5:39 AM
The problem is that the tubing has already been stressed in one direction during the original bends.
This is called "work hardening".
Trying to "unbend" them will put too much stress on stretched steel.
if they don't break on the Press they will break down the road.
Ever "cut" a piece of wire by simply bending it back and forth a few times?
And annealing thin wall ferrous tubing is not worth the effort.

All that being said, a slight bend or straightening is totally doable. Just not recommended.
If you insist on bending bent bars, at least use some heat!

Scribble the shape you want on a napkin or something.
Send us a pic of said napkin.
Sketching out custom parts first is common practice.

Speaking of wire, when making custom handlebars, or exhaust pipes, using scrap wire to help you figure out the bends is also pretty common.

Tattooo
09-05-2018, 7:55 AM
You are 68 yo in your profile and you ask a question and give attitude like a young 'un.
Good luck to you.

Yea I noticed that also.... I figured he was a kid also.... An adult wouldn't even try what he is asking...

Hoghead
09-05-2018, 8:12 AM
Odder still, is that the parts catalogue on my lap lists a mind bending selection of bars, with pics and all the dimensions of each in a tabular form... Beyond that bend a piece of wire to what you want and get it custom bent.....

rockman96
09-05-2018, 9:26 AM
These look pretty cool:
https://www.ebay.com/i/283131907229?chn=ps&ul_ref=https%253A%252F%252Frover.ebay.com%252Frove r%252F1%252F711-117182-37290-0%252F2%253Fmpre%253Dhttps%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww .ebay.com%25252Fi%25252F283131907229%25253Fchn%252 53Dps%2526itemid%253D283131907229%2526targetid%253 D497858409794%2526device%253Dm%2526adtype%253Dpla% 2526googleloc%253D1026083%2526poi%253D%2526campaig nid%253D1481353837%2526adgroupid%253D56758917509%2 526rlsatarget%253Dpla-497858409794%2526abcId%253D1139286%2526merchantid% 253D115314442%2526gclid%253DEAIaIQobChMI49rR2pSk3Q IVCwBpCh3aoQGFEAQYAiABEgIbNPD_BwE%2526srcrot%253D7 11-117182-37290-0%2526rvr_id%253D1657396101058%2526rvr_ts%253Daa50 daf21650ac3d6d346e00ffebf99a

Or these:
https://www.google.com/shopping/product/3651742187636245250?q=board+racer+style+handlebars&client=safari&sa=X&hl=en-us&biw=320&bih=529&tbs=vw:l,ss:44&prmd=sivn&prds=epd:16560199828881424107,paur:ClkAsKraX7aXZ1-qwj2WHU5GtWb_jm9tVGFZkjgAiuNoyUSvgEnd8VMUhU8c85I-xixsTjN2EIHBpfcyOvuDkwTMlRlftLPvIQeQ_hL5rIGkfPBHAE nBzfl9QBIZAFPVH71HxgBUUP5daEEoiVzxqdmBY_fjlQ,cdl:1 ,prmr:1,cs:1&ved=0ahUKEwi-6eqslaTdAhUCQ60KHT3eDPgQgTYI5gQ

chopperbob1313
09-05-2018, 9:58 AM
Sky and Rockman 96, thanks for the answers to what I was asking. I'm out.

bobberadam
09-05-2018, 10:47 AM
How can I post a picture of what I"m talking about when nobody has them?? And believe me I've been looking a long time. This is going way off the main question. ALL I wanted to know was if the low rise in a handlebar could be pressed out. That's all.

They make these new fangled things called pencils and sheets of paper, why can you not draw out what you want and at least give some idea of what the end product "should" look like? I would think the answer to this is fab/custom building 101, no, you cannot bendy bend tubing that has already been benty bent.

RickG61
09-07-2018, 7:36 AM
Live anywhere near a circle track? There's probably guys there with tubing benders like the ones offered by JD2, Eastwood, Pro Tools, etc. Talk to some of them. I'm sure offering a few beers and some conversation, as well as the chance to fabricate something cool would interest a few of them into bending up some tubing for you. A lot of those guys have the benders so they can repair or fab up their stock cars.

Wanna see what really fits your needs? Buy a cheap ass conduit bender and a few sticks of 1" conduit. NO, you're not making your bars out of conduit, but its the right diameter and easy to bend, cheap to buy, and would work perfect for bending to the correct shape as a pattern for what you want made out of better tubing.

Keep in mind that fabbing up your own, with a lot of pull back, will put a lot of leverage on those bars, and the tendency to want to slip in the risers will increase unless you also come up with a way to knurl, or, dimple the tubing to give it some bite in the clamps. It can be as simple as spending some time with your favorite center punch and punching an area which sits inside the clamps. Lots of punching, LOL Don't grab a huge hammer and don't beat the hell out of it to the point its no longer round either. Check ebay or sites like that, hand held knurling tools are also an option.

Once you've figured out the shape, bent the right tubing, send it out for plating if that's the look you want. Have you considered powder coating? There's some chrome appearing powders offered by places like Eastwood

Avon
09-07-2018, 8:17 AM
87107

ChopperDani
09-07-2018, 8:24 AM
Lmao.... this thread made my day...... kid lies about his age, then posts a silly post, in return gets roasted, gets super butthurt.

Welcome to the internet. Guess its your first time lol

Luky
09-11-2018, 8:54 AM
I found a set of handlebars that I like. Trouble is they have a 3" rise And I want them flat track style. My question is, could the rise be flattened out with a machine press and not crack or weaken the metal if the entire bar is flattened at once? Thanks for any help.

Trying to help...
You said "could the rise be flattened out" I did not mean literally.
Flanders company has been making handlebars since the 1950's at least. Then have just about every type of handlebar you could want at very reasonable prices.
Check them out on the internet. http://www.flandersco.com