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BlackCloudSalvage
09-29-2017, 11:11 AM
Mostly concerned about getting all the right parts together. I'll deal with timing later. So far I have the Mag and this plate that came installed on the motor. Looks like I'm missing a few parts because the bolts in the motor plate don't allow the Mag to sit down or align with Mag plate holes.

<img src='https://i.imgur.com/s8AtuBq.jpg' />
<img src='https://i.imgur.com/wlVPfJG.jpg' />

BlackCloudSalvage
09-29-2017, 11:13 AM
<img src='https://i.imgur.com/rxvxtnl.jpg' />

Here they are together. Looks like I'm missing one more plate and the adjuster.

BlackCloudSalvage
09-29-2017, 11:17 AM
Look at this on eBay http://www.ebay.com/itm/291627692495

Will this set get me where I need to be? This is my first Mag fired bike. I'm plenty familiar with magneto principal and timing, etc but not with the assembly on this bike.

Dragstews
09-29-2017, 11:21 AM
Life would be a lot easier to live (At least when firing up the beast) if you installed this kit ...

http://i.ebayimg.com/images/i/141687338492-0-1/s-l1000.jpg

tzienlee
09-29-2017, 11:53 AM
your magneto will fit as is if you fit the right screws in the adaptor plate,... it should be counter sunk and takes flat head counter sunk screws not the domed ones you are using.
As Jesse says the advance /retard kit he shows will allow you to retard the timing for starting & then advance it for running as the magneto has no advance retard mechanism.
you can just bolt it solid but then run the risk of kickback.
the adaptor you have seem to have holes drilled at ''6 O'clock'' & at ''12 O'clock'',.... some are drilled at ''4 O'clock'' & at ''10 O'clock'', if you cant get to the timing mark with existing slots drilling & countersinking new mount holes may be needed.
the picture shows the Tacho hole facing the tappet block,... it should be 180* the other way with the tacho hole pointing away from the motor and the head of the mag pointing forward.

BlackCloudSalvage
09-29-2017, 3:08 PM
Thanks y'all. I'll order the Hunt kit.

Dragstews
09-29-2017, 3:41 PM
What I do for using the retard and advance is to scout the junk yards for a throttle cable that has the twist and lock... (Mostly big trucks used them)
Cut it down and make up a bracket .... Works slick as sh*t.....

http://xlforum.net/photopost/data/500/mag_cable_1.jpg

http://bolenspartsandsupplies.com/images/thumbnails/1606/837/detailed/1/$T2eC16VHJGwFFZMyS9y!BSF9rocCLQ~~60_57.JPG

If ya too dang lazy to fight the snakes and chiggers (Tiny Little Bastards) .... This one ^^ can be bought new for around $20 ....

.../// http://bolenspartsandsupplies.com/wisconsin-engine-parts/ve527w-wisconsin-locking-throttle-control-head/ \\\...

Benny74
09-29-2017, 4:07 PM
If ya too dang lazy to fight the snakes and chiggers (Tiny Little Bastards) .... This one ^^ can be bought new for around $20 ....


Worst week of my life is when I had chiggers and didn't know what was happening. Those bastards make a mosquito bite feel like a kiss from an angel.

Dragstews
09-29-2017, 4:46 PM
Ya ain't telling me nothing that I don't know....

Took a walk in some weeds to get to a pond for a bit of noodling catfish...
.../// https://youtu.be/uEwM8-uYg3E \\\...
Had those critters all over my legs .... And how they got to my nut sack, only God knows ...!!!!

http://www.huidziekten.nl/quiz/quiz36a.jpg

Little Bastards ate my ass up .. !!!

DustyDave
09-30-2017, 12:27 PM
Next time put a little dab of fingernail polish over each bite, kills the little bastards real dead. I prefer clear nail polish but what ever floats your boat.
Dusty

Benny74
09-30-2017, 5:10 PM
Next time put a little dab of fingernail polish over each bite, kills the little bastards real dead. I prefer clear nail polish but what ever floats your boat.
Dusty

That's exactly what I had to do. Wish I had figured out what they were before too long had passed. They got me real good

Tattooo
09-30-2017, 7:03 PM
Chiggers are a mother fucker if you don't get them quick............

BlackCloudSalvage
10-31-2017, 7:44 PM
OK. I've got the adjustable timing plate setup pictured above. I've got it set up and installed but I still need to rig up a mechanism for retard and advance. What I'm wondering is if the rig mentioned above, twist and lock actually holds it steady in both positions, because as of now, with nothing, it is free to rotate and does so easily by hand. It's set up facing back like this "q" rather than "p". So I advance it by rotating the far end out and away from the rear cylinder and it tucks back in, streamlined while in the retarded position. Just want to be clear that it needs something to hold it advanced/timed as well, as there is nothing internal to the Mag that keeps it in the advanced position after its set. Only the stop screw on the plate keeps it from moving too advanced. Sound good??? Tips and tricks??!!

Dragstews
10-31-2017, 7:53 PM
I still need to rig up a mechanism for retard and advance. What I'm wondering is if the rig mentioned above, twist and lock actually holds it steady in both positions, because as of now, with nothing, it is free to rotate and does so easily by hand.

Yup ... It will lock it in both directions....

tzienlee
11-01-2017, 5:30 AM
3 basic ways to do it......
1) you use the factory twist grip on the left handlebar and advance & retard by twisting the grip.
2) you do the two mounting nuts up tight enough that with a bit of force you can turn the magneto and the friction of being semi tight holds the magneto in either position.
3) you set advanced & fully tighten the two mount nuts so it cant turn, but you have no retard to ease starting, as was done on race bikes,this way may give you painful kickback...

if you don't have a twist grip but want a moveable advance/retard you can rig up an advance /retard lever like that was fitted to british bikes of the 30's-60's as I did on my Shovelhead set up, see pictures, for this and factory twist grip type of set up the mag needs to be free to turn by the use of the cable & a spring fitted to ease retarding

BlackCloudSalvage
11-01-2017, 7:31 AM
Thanks y'all