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jasonramirez93
06-27-2017, 11:23 AM
Hey guys!

i am a new rider (5 months) barely got my first bike few months ago (2011 Sportster) and starting to make it look somewhat lil more chopperish.

This may be a stupid question but when it comes to motorcycles im still a noob and quite stupid.

after going to Bornfree this past weekend i saw alot of bitchin' bikes and some had a wicked lean when they were on their kickstand.

My question is: Is it possible to make my new bike look like that? and if so what does it take to make the bike
get that angle? do i have to get a new kickstand? modify the stock one? change the position? i am completely lost and if anyone can point me into the right directing that would help.

jonnyoz
06-27-2017, 11:27 AM
These guys would have either made a kickstand, or welded on a kickstand at the angle they want.

If you want a mad lean, you are going to have to modify what you have or install a new one. Modifying what you have would be easiest - basically you could heat it with a torch and bend it till the bike sits how you want. You'd have to be careful though, as once it's bent, it may not retract the same or hit the rubber bumper any more. This is easy to deal with when building a bike, more tricky if you want to tweak a stock one.

Not sure if there's aftermarket kickstands that you could simply replace.

Installing a new one would mean cutting off the stock mount and welding a new one in place.

jasonramirez93
06-27-2017, 11:50 AM
Thanks for the input Jonnyoz,

i will for sure look into getting a new one.
im thinking if i heat up the stock one woulnd't that make it a little weaker?
im worried it might start losing its strenght and snap on me... that would suck lol

Fings369
06-27-2017, 11:57 AM
Extend the front end 6-8" and you'll lean...

Tattooo
06-27-2017, 12:29 PM
Before you start modifying your bike put some miles on it like it is now... Then when your comfortable do some changes... Ride safe...........

Peterson13
06-27-2017, 1:05 PM
Gotta agree with tatooo. For right now I'd concentrate on miles.

BuddhahoodVato
06-27-2017, 1:26 PM
Take a clothes hanger, metal one of course, and mimic your present kickstand, then enhance the bend little by little, and see where it winds up, will it clear everything, come against your primary cover etc.
Then go from there, good luck and welcome to the party.

jasonramirez93
06-27-2017, 2:38 PM
Hey Fing,

what would you recommend? getting longer fork tubes? also how much longer to get a good lean?
not too much where the bike looks that its going to tip over but enough for it to be "gangster lean" as they say? lol

7and7is
06-27-2017, 5:49 PM
https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--lobkwaDl--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/h3h7e5kqhkltqrslspp6.gif

nickey
06-27-2017, 7:53 PM
I'd say the lean is probably from some other changes. Not just a kickstand. Most likely taller front. Did you notice anything else about the bikes? Were they hardtailed? Extended forks or springer front? Etc. If all you are wanting to do is make it lean more then you can modify the kickstand but I wouldn't go cutting yours up just yet.

What model sportster do you have? The huggers have a shorter kickstand. Measure yours. You can get a shorter one probably.

ManicMechanic
06-27-2017, 10:20 PM
This one really made me laugh out loud....

The lean is a byproduct of long forks and stock rakes and kickstands. I'm sure those people with crazy leans would love to fix it but either a longer kickstand interferes with other parts of the bike or they cant be bothered to sort it out.

I don't think anyone starts out actually wanting their bike to lean that far but don't let that put you off. Take the kickstand cut it in half and weld the foot back on. Instant leans...... :):):):)

Be warned though, crazy leans + parking on gradients = Bad time.

jasonramirez93
06-28-2017, 7:20 AM
its a 2011 iron 883

jasonramirez93
06-28-2017, 7:26 AM
as far as i've seen and heard just getting long fork tubes would give me a lean. 6"-8" over tubes.

Is it possible to install the extended fork tubes without having to modify anything else?

what are raked cups? do i need that in order to run the extended fork tubes?

humancertainty
06-28-2017, 7:41 AM
Tattooo is right. Get some time in the saddle.
While you're getting that experience, start doing research. And make some friends with customized bikes to help you.

nickey
06-28-2017, 7:42 AM
Yea taller forks cause it to lean due to the bike being taller and the kickstand being the same. You can run just extended forks without changing rake. I had 6 overs for a while. Handling at slower speeds takes a little more effort but not a bad ride. Check out the NorCal thread in the sportster section for some examples.

Like stated earlier, I'd ride it a while to figure out what you'd like to change. It sucks changing something only to realize you really didn't want that. But it's your bike, have fun with it!

Also, changing fork tubes is pretty simple. Just get s manual and watch some YouTube videos on fork disassembly.

jasonramirez93
06-28-2017, 7:53 AM
sweet, thanks nickey for the help and suggestions.

i will take your advice and get some miles under me. i've been riding everyday since its the only transportation i have right now and im loving every minute of it. going out to my first long trip next week (soCal to las vegas).

so when i do decide to go with that change, i will get longer fork tubes (probably 6over). so i dont need those
raked cups right? just swap the stock tubes with the extended tubes?

Revelator
06-28-2017, 10:27 AM
This one really made me laugh out loud....

The lean is a byproduct of long forks and stock rakes and kickstands. I'm sure those people with crazy leans would love to fix it but either a longer kickstand interferes with other parts of the bike or they cant be bothered to sort it out.

I don't think anyone starts out actually wanting their bike to lean that far but don't let that put you off. Take the kickstand cut it in half and weld the foot back on. Instant leans...... :):):):)

Be warned though, crazy leans + parking on gradients = Bad time.

I AGREE. the excessive Lean Angle is usually not planned. hahaha.
Guys will rake their front end out, & Their kickstand ends up coming up short,
& suddenly the bike is leaning. I'll bet sometimes, they don't even realize it until
after the front end is changed, then.... OOOOOPs. But then, It does look Chopular as hell !

Here's thee Raddest Sporty I seen at Born Free9 this year... We pulled in & parked Our
bikes on the Grass, & This Gem was sitting right in front of Me. the tank was
awesome, if anyone wants to see the tank, I have a photo of it as well.
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e233/lairdog/born%20free%209%20008_zpsqj9b4gt3.jpg (http://s40.photobucket.com/user/lairdog/media/born%20free%209%20008_zpsqj9b4gt3.jpg.html)

farmall
06-28-2017, 10:48 AM
Excessive side lean isn't a feature, it's a consequence of other changes.

Make sound welds, don't guess.

"Gee, this lean is awesome and may even get me laid!"
SNAP!
"Cool, now I have an excuse to buy new handlebars and a gas tank after I get this bitch off my leg."

I certainly don't advocate shortening a sidestand unless that is functionally necessary because of other changes make to the motorcycle.

Put miles on that motorcycle before slaying it. Better yet, put miles on it then get a different motorcycle to learn chopping on.

He who makes his main ride a project is often a pedestrian, and aborted projects are why basket cases (the bike kind, not the owner though the two aren't mutually exclusive) are so common.

jasonramirez93
06-28-2017, 11:38 AM
damn thats a sick ass sporty!

thats the type of lean i would want to get... maybe a lil less but that ball park.

Later on when i do decide to get longer fork tubes, do you guys suggest that i go with 6over or 8over? to get a lean similar to that sporty at born free that revelator posted? below is my sportster
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Tattooo
06-28-2017, 12:22 PM
Are you looking for a lean as you call it sitting still or going down the road???

jasonramirez93
06-28-2017, 12:39 PM
sitting still... as in when its parked. to give it that 70's old school chopper look.

cant afford a real shovel/pan chopper so im trying to atleast give this new sportster an older feel to it.

Bbqbiker
06-28-2017, 12:50 PM
I'm with Tatooo ride it 50K before you ruin it

nickey
06-29-2017, 2:33 AM
Those narrow bars are gonna be a bitch with tall forks. Finally ditched my rabbit ears for some bucks when I had mine. But yes you can just do fork tubes. As far as length it's up to you. I went 6 over but my front end looked a little taller than yours stock. And I ended up wanting a little more. There's some guys in here with 8 and 10 over and they look good. Just depends on what you want really. But you'll definitely need a longer kickstand with taller forks. And you'd still have plenty of cool guy lean when parked haha.

kendall666
06-29-2017, 4:41 AM
Sit on it with the stand down and bend it. It'll lean after that. Although I wouldn't recommend it

Tattooo
06-29-2017, 7:39 AM
sitting still... as in when its parked. to give it that 70's old school chopper look.

cant afford a real shovel/pan chopper so im trying to atleast give this new sportster an older feel to it.

Thanks for the response...... I'm not being a hard ass here BUT..... Did you buy the bike to look at or ride???? Who gives a damn what it looks like sitting still, ride it and enjoy it......

Now when you get to be my age then looking at it is as good as riding it..... You know like sex.......... LOL

Ride safe....

nuklhd
06-29-2017, 8:23 AM
let the air out of the rear tire. it will lean and be safer sitting still.

Tattooo
06-29-2017, 7:54 PM
let the air out of the rear tire. it will lean and be safer sitting still.

Now that's a damn good idea......

Tattooo
06-29-2017, 8:00 PM
sitting still... as in when its parked. to give it that 70's old school chopper look.

cant afford a real shovel/pan chopper so im trying to atleast give this new sportster an older feel to it.

Also look at it this way it's a late model Sporty not a Pan or a Shovel and it will NEVER be one or look like one so ride it and enjoy it as it is.....

Savwha
06-30-2017, 8:42 AM
LOL the Born Free reference had me thinking you were joking but then I realized your dead serious. You will be laughing at yourself for this post in a year or two. I've never heard of someone trying to get a lean, its not done on purpose.

tzienlee
06-30-2017, 11:26 AM
I gotta say there are many many things to do to a bike other than how it Leans over on the stand !!....
the paint,....... the forks ........the overall ''Flow'' of the lines of the whole bike......,.. the seat, sprung or hard ass rigid........ cissy bar or not ...........full length fender or shorty,............... ape hanger bars or drag bars & everything in between ,
super charger or a decent carb,.............. magneto or electronic,...........spoke wheels, solids or mags.............forward controls,mids or rearsets.............. if ya wanna look like '' A Gangster''......Join the Mafia !!.............
Just Ride the bike & if in 6 months ya haven't learnt anything about bike building or style and all ya want is for it to lean over then get a longer stand that's bent up so it leans without falling over which is what will happen if all ya do is shorten the one ya have.......

7and7is
06-30-2017, 4:32 PM
I think your bike looks pretty damn good as is, if I changed anything it would be the seat, otherwise bike looks good.