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ibuiltmine
06-25-2010, 9:12 AM
It was a Butt Ugly 454LTD My Ol man dragged home one day. Picked it up for 75 bucks with a title. The PO tried to put pods on it, and took the carbs off for some reason, and couldnt figure it out past that.......
from this:
http://www.dantesdame.com/bikes/other%20bikes/454ltd.JPG

to this:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/ibuiltmine-o1oo/35414_10150205902525577_599270576_1.jpg


It has a ZX6 front end, with a yz125 Excell Front rim, with an Avon Speedmaster, a KTM Big 320mm supermoto brake, and a GSXR 4 piston caliper, all mated to the 454 stock frame.
Ive shaved as much as I can off it. Built the Z bars, the tank mounts, the pipes, the pan, rebuilt the ass end to lower the shit out of it, and fit the 10 inch Harley short shocks onto it.

as it sits it weighs 310 lbs, and the motor puts out over 50hp in factory form at 10,000rpm! Its going to be a fun little scoot!

Its all mocked up righ now, 99% fabwork is done. im taking a break from it for a couple weeks to build a bicycle for my son, then ill tear it down for paint, chrome and leather.

Hope you guys enjoy it!

Punkskalar
06-25-2010, 10:10 AM
Very cool, I can dig it...

NHMike
06-25-2010, 10:29 AM
Looks awesome man!! Hell, I'd leave it as is, it looks killer!!!

Welcome to the Cult!!

motorlou
06-25-2010, 12:28 PM
hey buddy, good to see ya over here, told you you'd fit right in!

WOMPY
06-25-2010, 3:14 PM
Very cool how you mated all those front end pieces... Much kawi love...and welcome...

j8ksdad
06-25-2010, 8:17 PM
I'm diggin' it just as is. Not really a fan of the bars but love the overall look. Hoping to make my swingarm Savage look a little something like that.

Welcome

ibuiltmine
06-26-2010, 9:55 AM
Thanks Lou!
yeah, the bars would beway cooler if I didnt have all the crappy stock controlls on there. Thats actually the stock ZX6 clipions, and i bandsawed the stock bars, and built the Z's up from there. Its a VERY comfortable riding position. I jsut hope the torqe of the rise in the bars dowst mess up the aluminum where the bars go in.....
Its hard to explain what I mean. Theresno leveron the stock ninja, no torsionalforce, just downward, or back or wahtever.... With the rise there is actuall leverage on there. i think Im going to solder the bars to the risers, like doing some plumbing or somehting...... that should keep it solid.

Thanks for the comments guys...... a lot of works gone into this littel bitch already.

ibuiltmine
06-26-2010, 12:04 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/ibuiltmine-o1oo/35414_10150205902545577_599270576_1.jpg
This things got a big rear end! LOL! A 150 tire, and 1.5 inch belt drive, the harley shocks are about an inch wider each side then the stock ones, and then the shakers sticking out.
Im liking it!

I got my A123's in the mail today, so I can build the battery tonight, and start on the wire harness.

joshmodelskidoo
06-27-2010, 10:12 AM
looks good!! ur right that thing was ugly, but a hell of a find for $75

crawler65
06-27-2010, 7:49 PM
I got my A123's in the mail today, so I can build the battery tonight, and start on the wire harness.

Tell me a little more about this. Can they take a charge from the stock charging sys. ?!?!?
I thought of trying some NiCads on a bike I'm working on, but I know they would not last long.

ibuiltmine
06-27-2010, 8:22 PM
Tell me a little more about this. Can they take a charge from the stock charging sys. ?!?!?
I thought of trying some NiCads on a bike I'm working on, but I know they would not last long.

Dude!!! All I can say is If I would have found out about these a long time ago, Id have NEVER fucked with lead acids again!!!!!!
I got this little tiny 4 cell battery. they are like long c batteries about 1 and a half as long and just as big around. It weighs about 10oz, and it cranks over my 11:1 compression zx11 like its on crack!

I have one that is 4 cells about the size of long AA batteries. They are about 1/3 the power as the A123's. I have that set in my 78 CB360,and have had it in the bike for months. It cranks that sucker like its on meth, the lights are bright as hell, the spark is hot,and they have not come down off about 14.5 volts since I put them in!

THEN...I have a 2 cell like 2 long AA batteries (about 7 to 7.5 volts) in my GN400, and I ride that bike every day. The battery weighs like 4 oz, never goes dead, the stock high voltage low amperage 6v charging system keeps it at about 7 or 8 volts. My headlights are a little brighter too!

They are GREAT, and so far I have not had one problem. I have put the packs in my kids powerwheels and just run the dog crap out of them, until they were so hot you couldnt touch them, and they powered out (they stop sending voltage out of them when they drop below 12v but more about that later)
Then I stuck them onto my battery charger, charged then back up to 14 or so volts, and discharged them again!

NiCads will never work. they do not give off the amperage. they will put out something like 1 amp,shit oreven 1/2 amp at the stated voltage. They last forever in something like your camera, cell phone or remote controll car.
The big ol A123's are capable or releasing 70 amps EACH for something like 12 seconds!!! and have a reserve of over 2500mah!

And it seems that 280amps is PLENTY of power, although I have not hooked them up to a high compression V-Twin,like a hopped up harley, but i figured a zx11 was a pretty good test, no?

i can write a good how to thread with pics and video if there are some more people interested?

I will NEVER buy another lead acid battery for one of my bikes! Also, I have a buddy with a 550hp FWD Honda Civic drag car, and I am building him a race battery...... taking something like 20+ lbs of a drag race only vehicle is quite an accomplishment, not to mention saving almost 12lbs just off a normal bare bones chopper!

ibuiltmine
06-27-2010, 8:29 PM
Tell me a little more about this. Can they take a charge from the stock charging sys. ?!?!?
I thought of trying some NiCads on a bike I'm working on, but I know they would not last long.


Finding REAL A123's is hard to do. The new DeWalt 18v battery packs have a bunch of them in them. i had one packgo bad, and i cracked itopen and tested,and only one had gone bad, so I salvaged a few good ones.

REAL A123's are green.the yellow ones are not them,although I have bought them and used them too, I just have to use 8 instead of 4 becasue they are lower amperage.but they are quite a bit smaller then the green ones,so an 8 cell yellow is only a littel bit bigger then a 4 cell green.

Ive been researching and playing with these for a while now,and I ...think....i understand it now! LOL


Shoot, Id even be willing to build some for people if they wanted to try them out!


Check out speedcell. that guy sells them to sportbike kids for TONS of cash....
Dont getme wrong. ONE A123 is about 12-15 bucks, but still about as cheap as a quality lead acid.

you jsut have to wrap your head around the below 12v drop out of voltage.

ibuiltmine
06-27-2010, 8:38 PM
Im wrong! These A123's ahve a 120 amp 10 second discharge with 70 amp continuous!! holy crap no wonder they turn the ZX11 over like it does!

j8ksdad
06-27-2010, 9:47 PM
I'm interested in the "How-To" thread!

Dannerville
06-27-2010, 10:07 PM
I'm interested in the "How-To" thread!

+1

crawler65
06-27-2010, 10:21 PM
Oh yeah! I need a battery like that for a chop I'm working on now.

crawler65
06-28-2010, 12:33 AM
Where do you like to get your A123 cells from?

Twinkies
06-28-2010, 9:58 AM
I would also like to see a how-to on this..
I just got my bike back together, took it for its first long ride, and found the battery leaking onto my coated exhaust pipes that I just spent $150 to get done. Ate right through the coating and Im pissed... would love to ditch the lead acid battery!

ibuiltmine
06-29-2010, 2:03 PM
Alright, ill get some pics to photobucket and write an article.
Its super easy. Theres a lot of myths and stuff about these batteries, and you will get the RC guys allpissed off, but screw 'em. Its about time they share!

eliwolf6
06-29-2010, 7:37 PM
would love to know some more options for battery's.... lookin forward to it

ibuiltmine
06-29-2010, 8:01 PM
Alright guys! If Im going to write a How-To Im going to do it right, so give me a few days to get it right, then Ill post it up!
In the meantime, here are my packs.......
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/ibuiltmine-o1oo/th_IMG_1091.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v216/ibuiltmine-o1oo/?action=view&current=IMG_1091.jpg)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/ibuiltmine-o1oo/th_IMG_1090.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v216/ibuiltmine-o1oo/?action=view&current=IMG_1090.jpg)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/ibuiltmine-o1oo/th_IMG_1089.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v216/ibuiltmine-o1oo/?action=view&current=IMG_1089.jpg)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/ibuiltmine-o1oo/th_IMG_0757.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v216/ibuiltmine-o1oo/?action=view&current=IMG_0757.jpg)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/ibuiltmine-o1oo/th_IMG_0756.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v216/ibuiltmine-o1oo/?action=view&current=IMG_0756.jpg)

ibuiltmine
06-29-2010, 8:03 PM
Damn, I did not think it was a technical as it was building these untill 'i start typing it all out..... LOL!

billdozer
06-29-2010, 9:25 PM
Suicide bomber in the house!

rustrocket84
06-29-2010, 9:30 PM
No shit. I bet the guys at the local domestic terrorist superstore, RADIOSHACK, know him on a first name basis. Of course he doesn't use his real name.


Looking forward to reading this how to

ibuiltmine
06-29-2010, 9:40 PM
No shit. I bet the guys at the local domestic terrorist superstore, RADIOSHACK, know him on a first name basis. Of course he doesn't use his real name.


Looking forward to reading this how to

Radioshack? What the hell you gonna do with a bunch of crappy cellphone accessories? LOL!

Im working on a write up! i just have to get my facts straight. This is something Ive been working on and researching for a few months, so I dont want anything to be wrong. Iwant you guys to be able to read my article, and go right out and build yourself a battery

convergecult
06-29-2010, 10:38 PM
Holy shit, this all sounds like black magic but please post a how-to. I never would have thought this would work. Great job on the bike so far.

j8ksdad
07-11-2010, 3:38 PM
Any update on the "how-to"?

convergecult
07-11-2010, 4:16 PM
I just had to buy a new battery today. Please post the how to when you get it done!

ibuiltmine
07-11-2010, 8:29 PM
It takes forever for those damn batteries to get here from china or korea wherever they come from.

Its pretty simple. there a lot of sites that will try to complicate it by saying you cant solder or whatever.
Pretty much just solder 4 in series to get about 13.2 volts. you can solder two of these series in paralel to double the power, but the 4 green cells turn over my zx11 just fine,a nd they do a really good job of turning over my 454!

Just make sure to get the high amperage output batteries
Make sure you got a super high amperage soldering iron so you can get in and get out without gettng the battery too hot.
be carefullnot to screw up which is which, cuz they got some amperage, and will blow sparks in your face, and burn your tounge as you got it stuck out trying to solder!

Simple. Ivehad it in my bike for a month now and not 1 single problem!
These DO NOT need a battery tender becasue they don't lose voltage while sitting
they DO need pretty high amps to charge. a tricke charger will not work. they need like 6 amps minimum to charge.
They will not put out the amps when they drop below about 11v. but this rarely happens. They will put out the juice for a long time then all of a sudden go dead, but I cranked my zx11 forlike 10 min on one charge, then throw them on the battery charger at 15 amps, and they are good to go again in like 15 min.
The RC guys will say they need to be balalced when charged, but to get around all that crap just make sure they are all charged before you solder the stuff together. From then on, for our purpose, you wont have to mess with them again.

One thing I worried about is I think the outer case of the battery is positive, so if it rubbs on something and wears through it could short out. i solved that by triple wrapping it in some heavy ass heat shrink, and just made sure there was some thin padding in the box to keep it from rubbing.

The A123's are kinda hard to find. I bought 4 of them for 30 shipped off ebay. Took like 6 weels to get them. (green ones NOT yellow ones) then I found some new DeWalt ones. 10 shipped for two. I bought 2 pair, and that was like 3 weeks ago, and have not got them yet, but Imnot worried. Those asian ebayers are pretty cool. If you email them and say your upset, they will jsut airmail you another of what you ordered so you get it fast so they dont get any bad feedback. I learned this on my 1st time oreder from them, but have not done it again. Just make sure they are a group that hase a lot of feed back.



I was thinking... that I could line up 4 of them and slide them down a backbone tube or something, and completely hide the fact that it has a battery at all. i have a friend doing some CNC plastic cases for them that just bolts them together.no soldering needed. Going to be pretty cool.

Theres an awesome thread on customfighter that explains everythign youd everwantto knowabout using A123's. New technology is awesome.

ibuiltmine
07-11-2010, 8:33 PM
These.
http://cgi.ebay.com/1PCS-New-A123-26650-3-3V-2300mAh-LiFePo4-Battery-Cell-/320558525754?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4aa2c6ed3a


These will work. They have almost the same amp output, but only HALF the reserve power, so you will need 8 of them onn a normal bike (4 series,and two sets of 4 parallel)
http://cgi.ebay.com/New-Lifepo4-A123-18650-1000-1100mah-battery-Cell-10-Pcs-/320550818388?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4aa2515254

ibuiltmine
08-02-2010, 11:50 PM
Hey guys!
SO heres a video.....
Been building the wire harness, and tucking wires through the frame. I checked that the coils were firing, then poured some gas into a long fule line untill the bowl were full, and then tried to fire it!
This was idle to about 4 or 5 grand.The motor red lines at 10,000!!!!! this things going to sound so pissed under full acceleration!

Here ya go!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sZwtBLsO2U

ibuiltmine
08-02-2010, 11:56 PM
Oh, and this is cranking, and cranking, and cranking, and cranking.....etc... on 4 A123 cells.
They went dead after about 10 minuts of cranking to where they wouldnt spin the starter anymore (this things 10.5:1 compression!)

I put them on my regular 'ol battery charger at the 15amp setting, and they were fully charged again in about 10 minuts, and cranked it for another go round.
Ithink they will work fine!
PLUS, they fit in the stock battery box along with the stock ignitor, reg/rec, fan relay, starter relay, starter solenoid, ignition swithc, and fuse box, instead of just one 14lb battery!
SLICK!

Im fukin stoked andready to get this bothc on the road! If i get it going by next monday, Im fucking sturgis bound on the little girl!

ibuiltmine
10-26-2010, 12:53 PM
It has been a while since life has let me work on the bike. I have been getting parts gathered, and moving stuff around in the garage....
But, lately i mounted the seat,and mounted the fender.
I got taillights, and wiring, did some engine work, new starter clutch, rebuilt the forks, and am in the middle of doing the wiring.....

Here is the seat and fender. I like it!


http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=15176422&l=3125c6e258&id=599270576

ibuiltmine
10-26-2010, 12:53 PM
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=15176422&l=3125c6e258&id=599270576

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs002.ash2/33464_10150291027695577_599270576_15176422_3897740 _n.jpg

ibuiltmine
11-04-2010, 4:03 PM
Z bars and the Acewell center mounted.

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs409.ash2/68794_10150300705480577_599270576_15339804_1254457 _n.jpg

motorlou
11-04-2010, 7:38 PM
lookin good sean, is that what you will be rolling on when you come visit?

ibuiltmine
11-04-2010, 7:51 PM
yep! unless I win the lottery, then its straight to OCC for this guy! LOL!

ibuiltmine
11-07-2010, 2:20 PM
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs939.snc4/73287_10150308396940577_599270576_15501861_3431109 _n.jpg

First time I have everything on the way it will be when done. Seat, new forks, gauge, bars, tank, fender, pipes, brakes, etc...

Feels good! It feels TINY. Light weight. with somewhere between 50 and 60 hp and 10,000 rpm red line, its going to be a super fun ride.

BigMikeOlley
11-07-2010, 4:05 PM
When the fuck are you gonna invite me over to see that sweet ride of yours??

ibuiltmine
11-07-2010, 5:46 PM
Hell man! Come on over! Im on vacation all week. Im going to be close to home helping the wife all week since she ripped two tendons in her foot/ankle, but im planning on getting a ton done to the bike this week!

ibuiltmine
11-07-2010, 5:55 PM
The funnest part of this build is making a million odd ball parts from different makes, models, and years all fit and work good on one bike!

Parts list as follows:
'87 454 LTD Kawi
ZX6 front forks revalved, Ohlins springs, valves and oil
2003 YZ250 Excel 21 inch front wheel on the ZX6 axle (machined all the spacers to make it fit)
Avon Speedmaster front tire
EBC Supermoto 320mm full floating rotor off a KTM 525
2007 BMW F650g Brembo Dual piston front caliper
08 R1 Brembo rear master cylinder on the frame as a hidden remote front master to run the front brake
Flyrite Center post headlight
Acewell digital micro tac/speedo mounted to the modified ZX6 top tree
Z-Bars built by Me out of the stock 7/8 Ninja clipons and modified to hold up on the stock tree
60's Harley seat recovered by a friend with memory foam and a gel pad
Dual Cocktail shaker mufflers with mid pipes that i built
bobbed stock frame
KZ750 front fender hammered out wider to fit the 150 tire
Nightster LED taillights
LiPo Speed Cell style battery that I built (weighs 1 lb instead of 14lbs)
Vintage bear trap BMX break away peddles as pegs
03 GSXR 750 aluminum radiator
09 R6 1/2 of their dual fan setup
Complete 100% wiring harness built by me
05 gsxr750 coil on plug ignition
Old Sporty tank I flat bottomed and welded in modern petcock and cap
Burly Slammer 10 inch performance Sportster shocks with inserts machined to fit Jap posts
1/2 of a set of 34mm ZX9 carbs instead of the 32mm stock ones.

ibuiltmine
11-10-2010, 12:16 PM
built my pegs...Im not sure I like them, but we will see when the diferent pedals get here. These are too big.......

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs491.ash2/76464_10150310418280577_599270576_15539016_6880771 _n.jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs468.ash2/74191_10150310417800577_599270576_15539003_5949246 _n.jpg

ibuiltmine
11-13-2010, 12:55 AM
I built my front brake bracket today.
A friend of mine pointed out that the Brembo caliper I had was a left side only caliper and that if it was run on the right side it could fail!! Thanks dude!

So I had to flip the whole front end around a lot. I swapped the forks to oposite sides, then put the legs backwards so I could have the anti-dive valve and the brake caliper on the same side.I wanted this to make the routing of the wires to the valve and the brake line on the same side.
Plus I wanted the brake caliper on the front side of the fork for the BREMBO logo was pretty much level with the ground.

I wanted the bracket to be as small as possible to save unsprung weight.

I designed and fit the whole bracket with cardboard first.
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs992.snc4/76562_10150314164965577_599270576_15583562_3086171 _n.jpg

ibuiltmine
11-13-2010, 12:59 AM
then got to work cutting out the L shape piece to start measuring out my holes.....

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs574.ash2/149621_10150314164685577_599270576_15583549_496178 8_n.jpg

Then something bad happened!
My 4 year old Boy, Tyler, came out to to see what was going on, and say good night......
Well, somehow in his curiosity he exchanged a 14mm drill bit with my 10mm drill bit on the work bench where I had the 3 or 4 drill bits I was using to step up to 10 mm. Well, four 14mm holes later, and that whole bracket went in the scrap pile! LOL!
I love my little boy, and even though that cost me like 4hours of work, It really just made me smile!

He will figure it out soon enough!

ibuiltmine
11-13-2010, 1:05 AM
I got to digging and the only piece of metal I had was just a hair under 1/4 inch..... and it was my last piece. and the 14mm holes sent that to the scrap, so i had to do the right thing and go to storage and get a piece of 1/4 instead of trying to use what I had.
It turned out to be a lot better then what I started with, so I'm glad my Little Boy 'helped' out!

The hardest part was getting the caliper/rotor/fork to line up right.
I did not want the bracket to be bent,or stepped or anything. I wanted a straight pull from the caliper to fork for the best strength.

But this meant that the rotor was about 8mm too close to the fork. no way to adjust anything with my wheel choice, and my caliper choice.
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs1153.snc4/149530_10150314189250577_599270576_15584190_879379 _n.jpg
Just was not going to work.......

ibuiltmine
11-13-2010, 1:13 AM
So I decided the easiest place to lose 8mm was in the Boss on the fork that the mount bolts went through.
I measured them both with the caliper, subtracted 8mm and wrote the number down!

Then I strapped the whole fork down into my CNC mill to take the 8mm off and keep the mounting face flat.....

HA HA HA!!! Yeah right.....


I took an 80 grit flapper wheel on my 4 1/2 inch grinder and started hogging the aluminum off! I carefully scribed a line 7mm down and the aluminum flew off! when I got down to where the line was gone, I CAREFULLY would remove a little material, and check it in like 5 spots around the face with the caliper, take a little more off here and there, re mic it....little more, etc.....

I got the whole face within 1 tenth of a mm and within 1/10thof each other!
Not EXACT like a mill would have done, but when I bolted the wheel back up and measured the space between bracket and brake rotor the difference was only a max of 1/10th of a mm!
not bad for a grinder and a hand file!


http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs496.ash2/76979_10150314189205577_599270576_15584188_7722108 _n.jpg

ibuiltmine
11-13-2010, 1:15 AM
Here it is! I have a lot of clean up and shaping to do to it. Im going to drill some speed holes into it to lighten it up and make it look better. Then some satin black powder coat to match the caliper and BAM!

I'm feeling pretty accomplished tonight.

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs574.ash2/149604_10150314085460577_599270576_15581767_671601 _n.jpg
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs925.snc4/73813_10150314085260577_599270576_15581762_6203174 _n.jpg

ibuiltmine
11-21-2010, 10:21 PM
Building the steering damper mounts. Everything is rough right now, because I wanted to make sure it all worked. Which it does, beautifully.

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs574.ash2/149658_10150323713075577_599270576_15725881_469396 2_n.jpg

I figured out that the mount doesn't have to be super heavy duty, so I only used one nut, and some smaller steel for the fork clamp
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs598.ash2/154998_10150323713395577_599270576_15725887_329820 9_n.jpg

ibuiltmine
11-21-2010, 10:28 PM
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs491.ash2/76411_10150323712870577_599270576_15725873_3504503 _n.jpg

Now that I know it works, I can make it fit better. I made the tabs extra long just in case I needed it, but I can now re drill the holes to allow about a 1/4 inch of clearance between the forks and the damper to keep it back tucked in behind the headlight.

Ill drag it all across the belt sander to make it all even and purdy, then All the tabs, mounts and damper its self will be powdered black. I think it will blend right in, without totally disappearing. Its a cool part and I don't want it to be absolutely overlooked.

Suicidal87
11-22-2010, 3:32 PM
this thread is rad, fuckin random ass bike...inspiring. i think some super skinny and straight t bars would look perfect on it tho

ibuiltmine
11-22-2010, 7:23 PM
Thanks! I fell in love with Kawi's 454 after one ride. Its a sporty little bike. Unlike the 500LTD. That bike is a dog. This thing runs like a little sport bike.

Bars might change once I get to riding it, but I built them to be a perfect riding position for me. They are level with my shoulders, and as wide as my shoulders.
Plus I like them because they are built out of the stock ninja clip ons!

ibuiltmine
11-22-2010, 7:31 PM
you make it up to Born Free this summer, and Ill let you rod the hell out of it!

Vinny
11-23-2010, 3:55 PM
This thing is cool. Lots of mods that you wouldnt think about. I wanna see it all put together. Gonna be strange I think.

ibuiltmine
11-24-2010, 7:10 PM
This thing is cool. Lots of mods that you wouldnt think about. I wanna see it all put together. Gonna be strange I think.

I'm curious as to what makes it strange? I mean,If you think about it, it's pretty much a standard Harley chop hotrod, but with a Kawi motor.

21, standard forks, single front brake, belt drive,cocktail shakers, Z bars, sporty tank, solo seat, short shocks, etc.....

I just cant afford to spend the money on a Harley, and still afford to chop it.

i do have a conglomeration of oddball parts on it!?!

motorlou
11-24-2010, 8:45 PM
I'm curious as to what makes it strange? I mean,If you think about it, it's pretty much a standard Harley chop hotrod, but with a Kawi motor.

21, standard forks, single front brake, belt drive,cocktail shakers, Z bars, sporty tank, solo seat, short shocks, etc.....

I just cant afford to spend the money on a Harley, and still afford to chop it.

i do have a conglomeration of oddball parts on it!?!

if it isn't strange, than what's the fucking point of making it? i would make a stock lookin bike would i? by the way, i forgot if you have ever owned a harley or not but believe me, it ain't all that! with jap bikes you just make em and ride em. practically no wrenching, can you say that about a pre evo?

ibuiltmine
11-24-2010, 9:24 PM
Yeah, Im not saying it was a bad comment or nothing....

This is weird, but I looked up the meaning of strange,
1. Not previously known; unfamiliar.
2.a. Out of the ordinary; unusual or striking.
b. Differing from the normal.

So ...... I take that as a compliment!

With millions of bikes out there all trying to be something different, I guess its pretty damn cool for a Wyoming kid to build something in nothing more then a shed with hand tools and that turns heads....

motorlou
11-24-2010, 10:01 PM
Yeah, Im not saying it was a bad comment or nothing....

This is weird, but I looked up the meaning of strange,
1. Not previously known; unfamiliar.
2.a. Out of the ordinary; unusual or striking.
b. Differing from the normal.

So ...... I take that as a compliment!

With millions of bikes out there all trying to be something different, I guess its pretty damn cool for a Wyoming kid to build something in nothing more then a shed with hand tools and that turns heads....

i'll take 2a please! ha ha ha

ibuiltmine
11-24-2010, 10:23 PM
I wouldn't mind finding a 91+ sporty. Im really looking for a 5 speed 883. That's about the only Harley I'm interested in. I don't like to mechanic so anything pre-evo just doesn't interest me.

anonigma
11-24-2010, 10:31 PM
sweet bike. i ride a 454 too. your thread is makin me think about finding some different forks for mine. and that battery idea is awesome.

ibuiltmine
11-24-2010, 11:04 PM
sweet bike. i ride a 454 too. your thread is makin me think about finding some different forks for mine. and that battery idea is awesome.

The stock forks are freakishly long. I think the ninja forks are something like 8 inches shorter then stock, then add in the 21 vs the 19.It's a 6 or 7 inch drop in the front. The rear is dropped about 4 or 5 inches with relocation the shocks and putting some sportster short shocks on it.
you can get the old school ninja front ends for dirt cheap. I think they used them until 93, and maybe even until 99. It pretty much bolts right onto the 454, with about a 1/4 inch gap in the dust seal on the top tree, but you can make a little longer dust seal pretty easy.
Don't even have to change the race.