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militant83
08-20-2016, 11:40 AM
Hey guys I'm looking for some help. I'm wanting to start a bobber project and I've narrowed it down to using a shadow. Just undecided on whether to use a 600 or 750. Is the frame size of the 750 bigger than the 600 or is it just a difference in motor size? I'm wanting to do a hardtail setup but haven't been able to find many examples of a hardtailed ace or spirit 750 on here. Any advice is greatly appreciated.

hellamopeds
08-22-2016, 7:35 AM
Don't get the 600. You'll outgrow it very quickly. If I was going to build a shadow I would absolutely get the 1100. Its hardly bigger/heavier than the 750 with a noticeable increase in highway power.

farmall
08-22-2016, 10:00 AM
Unless you are a midget, on street bikes there's no replacement for displacement. A 600 is sufficiently powerful but more powerful toys are more fun.

Honda 1300s and 1800s are also excellent machines.

militant83
08-22-2016, 11:11 AM
This will be my first bike so I wasn't wanting to go too big motor wise until I get more experienced at riding. And the smaller bikes fit my budget better for a project. My biggest concern was frame size. I wasn't sure the difference in the frame size between the 600 and 750. I'm 6'2 230, I don't want to be all crunched up on the bike with my knees in my face ( a little exaggeration).

sdustin
08-22-2016, 11:55 PM
The 600 is fine. It was my first bike and yeah it was wound out from 80 to the top speed of 100or so. but it was just fine. Yeah it's a little cramped but with higher bars it's better. And if you going to hardtail it the 600 is the only way. It's frame is perfect to hardtail and it's chain driven instead of shaft so it has a better look imo. And after you chop it it'll be lighter and actually pretty fast in the twisties.

sdustin
08-23-2016, 6:22 AM
Also I'm 5'11 after now riding a vt1100 daily the 600 feels a little cramped but more sporty than uncomfortable. They sell extended forward control brackets for the vt600 that are really cheap. That and a set of bars and you should be able to make it perfect. And honestly for your two points of a) first bike and b) you want to hardtail, there's not really any choice. Get the vlx/vt600 it will make your life much easier. And I also weigh 230 and it was fast. I'm fact after I jetted with both open exhaust and intake it felt very sporty. And I had no problem staying in front of Harleys in our local mountain roads.

militant83
08-23-2016, 6:53 AM
I'm sure some extended forward controls may help it not feel as cramped up. Although some 750s are chain driven as well and I've seen some pretty sick looking 750s bobbed, however its either a lot fab to hard tail or use the hardtail struts . Or of course keep the standard shock setup. I checked the factory specs on both and they are both similar in their overall wheel base so I would think I would fit about the same on either one. Lots of decisions before I pull the trigger here in a couple weeks.

hellamopeds
08-23-2016, 7:14 AM
You are going to look weird on the 600. Promise.

militant83
08-23-2016, 2:17 PM
You think, even with the extended forward controls and dropping the seat some when I hardtail it? I've never seen either in person which is ultimately what will be the deciding factor but by looking at the factory specs both bikes seem to be the same length. The 750 is a wider bike though. I could be wrong I'm just going off of what I've seen on the web.

The biggest factor might be which one I can find for a deal around my area.

sdustin
08-23-2016, 6:33 PM
I think the fact yout want to hard tail it would make the choice easier. Look up hardtail versions of each, see which one looks better

vphan119
08-23-2016, 6:51 PM
I would go with a shadow 600 over a 750 or bigger to bob out. 600 has the monoshock compared to the dual shocks like the larger cc shadows. I bob out 600 myself and love the way it looks compared to the larger ones. There are some clean larger cc shadows that are bobbed out but personally i love the 600 smaller, narrow look.
This is currently my look right now
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vphan119
08-23-2016, 6:53 PM
didnt read that you were 6'2. you might look too big on a shadow 600.

militant83
08-23-2016, 7:35 PM
I'm not dead set on the hard tail, but I know for sure I do not like the look of just using the hardtail struts on the 750 and I don't like the welded round tube to the rectangular swingarm. So if I was to hardtail a 750 it would have to be a complete rework of the rear end of the bike.

sdustin
08-23-2016, 9:31 PM
I'm not dead set on the hard tail, but I know for sure I do not like the look of just using the hardtail struts on the 750 and I don't like the welded round tube to the rectangular swingarm. So if I was to hardtail a 750 it would have to be a complete rework of the rear end of the bike.

Again make your life easier if hardtail is in the future and get the 600. Plus most people prefer the chain drive look on a chopper.

militant83
08-24-2016, 12:44 AM
You can get a chain drive 750 as well.. But yes if hardtail is in my future I would choose the 600.

Reflexion
08-27-2016, 11:00 AM
I'm 6'4" and ride a bobbed vlx 600
It's feels a little small, but no one has said I look too big for the bike. All I hear are compliments actually. It has plenty of power for the hwy, and can get up to 80-85 no problem. The 600 looks a lot better, especially hard tailed.
Here's mine, with stock suspension

militant83
08-27-2016, 7:39 PM
I ended up going with the 750 and picked this up today. Its a good starter project. While it has work done to it there is plenty I want to tweak.

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Tattooo
08-27-2016, 7:46 PM
That's a nice start............