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cggorman
04-24-2016, 2:18 PM
Anybody deal with Union Speed & Style for handlebars?

http://unionspeedandstyle.bigcartel.com/product/1-inch-raw-steel-handlebars

I'd like some raw steel bent handlebars (not mitered) to make a base for some riserless bars I have in my head. I don't have a tube bender that would make nice symmetrical bars and Union S&S looks like they may be a good fit for my needs. I found some others, but they are way spendy.

So, Union?
Other suggestions? (In the USA)

hankhill
04-24-2016, 6:34 PM
http://zombieperformance.com/ could not recommend Steffan more.

boomboomthump
04-25-2016, 12:19 AM
Jay makes great things. My only comment would be whether you get to pick the rise, width, bend, pull back you want being I don't see any specs listed on his page at all.


$65 is dirt cheap. Drag bars require 3ft of material. Low-rise/mini apes, 4ft. med-rise apes, 5ft. Material cost for 1" mild steel .120 wall DOM is $5/ft. So at $65, you're basically at $40 to bend some raw apes? That's ridiculously cheap. Setting up a pair of one-off bars is going to take a full hour from start to finish. I wouldn't do them for less than $100 in raw steel or $150 in stainless.

53Bash
04-25-2016, 11:10 PM
Material cost for 1" mild steel .120 wall DOM is $5/ft.

Ouch. Its half that where I shop, if you don't need a custom cut - either buy offcut, or a 17' lenght with free 'cut in half'. I assume anybody building bars would do that. Supposedly they aren't even the cheapest in town, but I've stuck with them because they have great customer service for small volume shoppers, which when it comes to steel yards is rare.

http://www.discountsteel.com/items/DrawnOverMandrel_DOM_Steel_Round_Tube.cfm?item_id= 200&size_no=99

Your point re the cost of custom bends still holds though. Even if the bar is only uses $10 worth of steel instead of $25, $65 seems a dirt cheap price. Maybe there's some dude doing side jobs on a CNC bender, because as you say, the money doesn't seem to cover labor in setting em up otherwise.

boomboomthump
04-25-2016, 11:30 PM
Yeah and how much does Discount Steel charge for shipping? They're the most expensive option online when you factor in total cost. Unless the place is physically local to you. They're known for selling lower grade China stuff though.



Local steel supply is the cheapest. When buying online I choose either OnlineMetals, MetalsDepot, Speedy Metals or Discount Steel (usually in that order though some items you need to shop around and compare with shipping charges).

53Bash
04-26-2016, 9:59 AM
I never checked shipping; they are local to me. I'd hope anybody building bars for sale is buying local, not mail order. Otherwise yeah, the material cost will eat them at those prices.

Unless I'm looking for some oddball size and / or special metal, I see no reason to pay shipping. With three yards to pick from in the same one mile stretch, I only mail order stuff like specialty bolts, brass tube, etc. (https://www.google.com/webhp?ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=buy%20steel%20minneapolis) Guess I'm pretty lucky on that, not sure if its unusual for a city the size of Minneapolis / St. Paul (might be a rust-belt legacy blessing). Don't know about "lower grade China stuff" or not, the claim is the DOM is ASTM A513 1020, so I'll trust it matches spec. If it was some high grade metal that was getting heat treated, the source might be worth sweating over, but I don't think that holds so much for mild steel.

ReRunCycleWorks
04-27-2016, 5:20 PM
ill plug myself http://www.reruncycleworks.com

cggorman
04-27-2016, 6:05 PM
ill plug myself http://www.reruncycleworks.com

Works for me!

How do make your bends? At work I'm a CNC tube bending engineer so I'm kinda particular about bend quality. Zombie's bends are little flat for my taste. No mandrel. I wish I had a machine big enough to do 1x.120.

ReRunCycleWorks
04-28-2016, 11:46 AM
Works for me!

How do make your bends? At work I'm a CNC tube bending engineer so I'm kinda particular about bend quality. Zombie's bends are little flat for my taste. No mandrel. I wish I had a machine big enough to do 1x.120.

i use a jd2 model 3 bender i use nothing but .120 wall tubing

boomboomthump
04-28-2016, 1:20 PM
Just FYI, some of those bends you've noted from Zombie which show more noticeable distortion are due to the fact that he has some <3" CLR dies. In some cases he's using custom 2" CLR dies and due to that the distortion is more apparent.


I have a 3" CLR die and the tubing doesn't deform as much with .120 wall at that radius. Even less with stainless.

cggorman
04-28-2016, 3:57 PM
Gotcha. Yeah, 2" is pretty damn tight for 1" OD mandrel-less bends.

ReRunCycleWorks
04-28-2016, 5:13 PM
Just FYI, some of those bends you've noted from Zombie which show more noticeable distortion are due to the fact that he has some <3" CLR dies. In some cases he's using custom 2" CLR dies and due to that the distortion is more apparent.


I have a 3" CLR die and the tubing doesn't deform as much with .120 wall at that radius. Even less with stainless.

yea all i use is a 3" CLR die