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ArsonistDissident
06-17-2015, 12:01 PM
Has any one ever bought a frame from cycle one? Or had any dealings with local motorcycle shops in ordering frames, wheels etc...? Can you avoid shipping costs by having your local shop order parts? I had seen that cycleone.com has frames starting at $800. I would like my chopper to be able to be thrown together for as cheaply as possible while still looking good.

Pendulum
06-17-2015, 12:50 PM
Has any one ever bought a frame from cycle one? Or had any dealings with local motorcycle shops in ordering frames, wheels etc...? Can you avoid shipping costs by having your local shop order parts? I had seen that cycleone.com has frames starting at $800. I would like my chopper to be able to be thrown together for as cheaply as possible while still looking good.


Fast, Reliable, Cheap.

Pick two.

BrokenSprocketGarage
06-17-2015, 1:03 PM
Always a good idea to support the local Indy shop. Suppose you bought a frame and wheels and forks from an online retailer. Then you have a problem and ask the local guy to fix it. Or for advice on how you can fix it. How inclined would that guy be to help you? Now suppose you bought those same parts from him, and had an issue. Most dudes would help you out..

Pendulum
06-17-2015, 5:05 PM
Always a good idea to support the local Indy shop. Suppose you bought a frame and wheels and forks from an online retailer. Then you have a problem and ask the local guy to fix it. Or for advice on how you can fix it. How inclined would that guy be to help you? Now suppose you bought those same parts from him, and had an issue. Most dudes would help you out..

I wanted to mention this as well.

Hotel
06-17-2015, 5:50 PM
That's a good statement. But if it's anything like around here, the local dudes are dicks and couldn't give two fucks less UNLESS you ride the begotten HD.
I've given up on my local shops a long time ago, and I'll admit, the internet struggle is a pain in the ass.
What can ya do!
If you got cool cats local, I'd go that way, even if their price is a little more than cycleone etc..

ArsonistDissident
06-17-2015, 9:43 PM
I want all three, but as cheaply as possible. It's bad enough that I am goingto have to pay an arm and a leg in commiefornia to get it on the road legally.

also, are there any gatherings of metric choppers that happen around california?

Westboundbiker
06-18-2015, 6:29 AM
I want all three, but as cheaply as possible. It's bad enough that I am goingto have to pay an arm and a leg in commiefornia to get it on the road legally.

also, are there any gatherings of metric choppers that happen around california?

I don't think you quite got the gist of 'pick two', hahaha. If you want cheap, you can either get a side of reliable OR fast, haha

ArsonistDissident
06-18-2015, 11:59 AM
I don't think you quite got the gist of 'pick two', hahaha. If you want cheap, you can either get a side of reliable OR fast, haha

Ok. I will start with cheap and reliable, then work on making it faat

Litehammer
06-18-2015, 9:51 PM
Here is my Cycle One CB Chop. Cycle One = good quality and good people. But if you want fast and cheap hardtail the stock CB frame. Building a ground up Chop is not for everyone, especially someone that wants fast and cheap.

Also, if you want a Cali chopper event that has ALL makes, including metric, there is a little event called Born Free. It happens next week. Maybe you've heard of it.? LOL. I'm trying to finish this thing so I can ride it to the show.

Sorry about the sarcasm. Its how I communicate. Anyway, best of luck. Push yourself and you'll be proud of whatever you do.

Fuckin pics are upside down, like my life....

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ArsonistDissident
06-19-2015, 6:08 AM
Yesss. But I want a fat rear wheel on the back.

Dinnertimedave
06-19-2015, 9:03 AM
So build it wider. Or buy one in that's for a wide back end, lots of stuff about. Good luck with it

Hey Litehammer, that thing's fucking gorgeous :clap for you:

ArsonistDissident
06-20-2015, 7:47 AM
today, I'm going to go check out some local wrecking yards to see if they have any old japanese bikes. there is a place in Fresno (I'm in Atwater, about an hour north of Fresno) that routinely sells cheap bikes and is a bike wrecking yard too, but I'm not going to drive all the way to fresno today... - I'm going to stick around Merced-Turlock and just get some rough prices - on bikes that aren't running, but have solid frames, and maybe a few parts I can pick from - I may very likely just buy a motor off of eBay or have a local shop see if they can source one... I'm excited.

chopdr
06-21-2015, 4:10 PM
definately recomend cycle one, but dont expect "cheap" or "fast". they are reasonably priced and everything is designed then built, they dont just have 100 frames waiting for people to buy. its a mom and pop business that does frames one off. i have bought both frames and weld ons from them. my panhead frame they did just showed up thursday and looks great

Houlie
06-23-2015, 6:59 AM
X1000 regarding CycleOne. Completely happy with the advice, help, quality of their work, fitment.....and everything else

Tigman
06-24-2015, 5:56 AM
If u want good looking have me build it. 100% tig welded.

CustomizeIT
06-24-2015, 6:28 AM
My 2 cents.

Just build your own.

You need help just ask?

CustomizeIT
06-24-2015, 6:42 AM
Some info:

How to hardtail without a jig you weld the new axle plates to your swing arm put new tubes in weld then cut the swingarm out.

http://www.bobberforum.com/forums/attachment.php?aid=2723
http://www.bobberforum.com/forums/attachment.php?aid=2949
http://www.bobberforum.com/forums/attachment.php?aid=2987

You do not have to go as far as he did and just put the upper tubes in also but here is the thread I can show you others also if needed?

http://www.bobberforum.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=3534&page=2
http://www.bobberforum.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=3534
http://www.bobberforum.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=1138&page=1

How to modify a cheap bender to make your own bends in tube.

I showed him this he made the write up.

http://www.bobberforum.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=9639

Video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlSnVSrWg0M

A different way of doing it but not sure how long the shoes will take the stress but, can be done this way also.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlSnVSrWg0M

If you are doing frame modifacations need to know how to do right. Here read up.

http://www.hondachopper.com/garage/frame_alterations/frame_alterations_1.jpg

http://www.hondachopper.com/garage/frame_alterations/frame_alterations_2.jpg

http://www.hondachopper.com/garage/frame_alterations/frame_alterations_3.jpg

http://www.hondachopper.com/garage/frame_alterations/frame_alterations_4.jpg

http://www.hondachopper.com/garage/frame_alterations/frame_alterations_5a.jpg

http://www.hondachopper.com/garage/frame_alterations/frame_alterations_5b.jpg

If you do not know how to weld I suggest you have a friend who can weld it but here is a brief write up I did on how to learn wire welding.

The wire speed sets the depth of wire feed or weld depth.

If wire can not bun that deep it pushes back and wire feed needs turned down.

If the wire speed is too slow then it burns back to tip and sometimes gets stuck to it and needs turned up.

Use this to set to any heat range.

I use .030 tips or .035 tips and wire.

Always push with your gun it leaves a better looking weld.

If you pull with you gun then the weld will have a crown.

By push the tip is facing the direction of weld path.

By pull the tip faces the direction of weld path but towards already welded area. the gun proceeds the weld not hovered over already welded area.

There are 3 main types of welding done and can be practiced by holding a couple in back on a pencil with paper.

1. Make small circles over both pieces to be joined
2. Make zig zag motion to both pieces to be joined
3. Run straight but leaves the worst finsh of the three

This pic is of how I practiced when I started so not to waste materials
It shows how to hold gun for push weld started on right and going left
Practice with both hand if you like
I like to put left elbow on table and hold right wrist and pull trigger with right and swivel off of the pivot of my left elbow sliding if need be.
The line would represent the two pieces to be joined.



http://i.imgur.com/Pofro1bl.jpg (http://imgur.com/Pofro1b)

The most important part is that the tip stay 3/4 in away at all time no closer no farther from weld surface.

If you are going gasless/flux core tip is 1.5 in away.

You have to push there is no option with flux core wire for a none slag inclusion weld.

Please do not take me wrong on the pull and push techniquies.

A really good welder can pull a weld and swirel weld in a circle so you can not tell.

The swirels have to be done different/wider to get this effect.

I will pull and push welds sometimes on the same weld path.

When starting out thou it is best just to push untill you have mastered it.

I still always if at all possible will try to push my welds.

Flux can be pulled but DO NOT OVELAP CIRCLES OR ZIG ZAGS or you will incase weld flux in the weld and its apperance my look good but will have slag inclusions if you cut it open.

There is many different ways and the truth is to find what is most comfortable to you.

Every welder does that and welds the way they prefer and as long as their process leaves a strong weld that is all that matters.

Strength of a weld is better than apperance any day.

How to make joining slugs.

You never but 2 tubes together these connections need slugs.

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j198/littlechop/slug1.jpg

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j198/littlechop/slug2.jpg

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j198/littlechop/slugs.jpg



http://choppercompendium.com/ccforum/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=604&sid=3c2b2cb6a92f33459831c76752311a94

How to make a frame jig.

http://choppercompendium.com/ccforum/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=582&sid=8fcc05b169a06b7d99802edb5e0996df

Pictures of different frame jigs.

http://choppercompendium.com/ccforum/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=227&sid=8fcc05b169a06b7d99802edb5e0996df

In this build i show how to set up a frame jig and build a frame.

http://www.chopcult.com/forum/showthread.php?t=36890&goto=newpost

You need any more info just ask?

wastedyouth2542
06-24-2015, 6:43 AM
buy a crappy bike that doesn't run. learn to make it run. then learn to make it run well. then clean it up some. then modify it after you understand the mechanics. do you know how to ride a motorcycle? (don't get mad at my asking, but it seems like you've never had a bike before)

CustomizeIT
06-24-2015, 6:50 AM
The only way to learn is to screw up.

Do not worry jump in head first it will all work out!

MAKE IT YOURS!

wastedyouth2542
06-24-2015, 6:51 AM
customizeIT.. i know that wasn't for me, but thanks anyway. a lot of good info in your post and i learned some stuff i didn't know! saving those links too...

CustomizeIT
06-24-2015, 6:58 AM
That post is for anybody who wants it!

Glad u like! Thanks!

And my offer to help goes to anybody serious in building something for themselves!

CustomizeIT
06-24-2015, 7:07 AM
I forgot to put the link in for the frame modifacations section sorry here is where it is at. Many other very valuable links and info in the garage here also.

http://www.hondachopper.com/garage/frame_alterations/frame_alterations_1.html

click thru the pages to see it all.

hellbilly1932
06-28-2015, 11:53 AM
Didn't read the whole thread but you can't go wrong with cycle one. My advice is to get a hardtail made for whatever bike you get or if you don't trust yourself to do it then Red at cycle one can hardtail your stock frame for you. Call them and talk about your options. And if you are serious about doing a cb750 specifically a SOHC '69-'78 then go check out handicapper.com you will not find more info anywhere else.

Tigman
06-28-2015, 12:56 PM
If you hardball your bike your not gonna have to worry about making it all legal for the RMV you just register as a stock bike. You don't go telling them it's modified, it's stock.. Then you figure out how to get an inspection sticker after you get your tag...

farmall
06-28-2015, 4:43 PM
Use a titled donor motorcycle if at all possible to make registration simpler.