View Full Version : XS Freedom or Death Build & BASH in TX

05-02-2010, 12:40 PM
Hey all, Lurk a lot, post a little.

Im starting an interesting XS 650 Project bike build. This bike will have parts from many vendors that have donated towards it. It will showcase parts & talent from small or one man shops we all know & love on a simple bike to show what can be done is short time, on a budget.

I post pics here as I go. Basic idea is low & long, 21"'s front & rear, dual tanks, maybe 3 :-), brass & Black & metal.

4 weeks to build. Unveiling Bash at the Dirty Dog on 6th in Austin during the ROT Rally. If youre there, come by, see the bike, drink some free beer & listen to some great Bands.

Trent at www.BikernetMetric.com is the One that started all this & will ultimatly be the bikes test pilot.

See more here with Vendors that have contributed, included Biltwell, of course.

Looki Here ,click on XS 650 Freedom or Death Bike (http://www.saintmotorbikes.com/imagery.htm)

Heres our starting point. Next pictures wont be crappy cell pics I promise ....


05-02-2010, 9:15 PM
OK, got to the fun part today. Off to an exellent start.........

Robert from Elswick Cycles donated the tail for this build. It is perfect. Comes with slugs for lower tubes & down tube, a spacer for rear axle adjuster to hit, perfect welds, fit, the whole kit is complete & top notch.
I got the bike stripped down, cut tail off per instructions, did a quick test fit & it was again, perfect.





After the tail is nailed on, Ill cut out a good bit of the top & front of frame to make it lower & longer, & badassyer.
Tick Tock.

05-03-2010, 2:28 PM
all world domination plans have blood all over them by the end. just remember that you need a thumb to grab stuff.

05-03-2010, 3:06 PM
I'll be at the ROT Rally. i'll have to come see this thing

05-03-2010, 3:23 PM
Crap, people may acually come .........

05-03-2010, 3:39 PM
I haven't spent enough time admiring the xs650's. looking forward to seeing how it turns out.

05-05-2010, 11:18 PM
I received the Brass fender from Dan at 7 Metal West, thats right, I said Brass........it is beautiful.
I also got the seat hinge from Fab Kevin, very very meaty, stainless, top notch quality.

Thank you fellas.


Also got this baby, we'll call it the Mystery part bowl looking thing......what could it be for?


05-05-2010, 11:41 PM
hm. i'm gonna guess it's the top of the skull of a nazi doktor, dipped in brass and hand rubbed by tequila-drinking monkeys in an argentine coke factory.


05-08-2010, 9:55 PM
Ok, back to the bike. Time to install the Elswick Tail for real.
I cleaned off the remains of old tube joints. I like the electric grinder (or "wheel of death by it riteful name") to attach large cut off wheels & hard grinder disc, & then a flap dics to smooth rougher marks, also a small air grinder with 2" 3M roloc disc.


Then bolt motor back in frame before welding on tail to insure the motor mount areas stay as they should to each other. Roll assembly forward to slip in new tail slugs.


Then get a few feet of wire, or thin rope & feed thru neck, tie something to end so it can be pulled on .


Put an axle in place in axle plates & secure, mark the dead center of axle, & mark center of top tail cross tube with Marker.


Now bend down & pull the wire, it will center itself were it comes out of neck on top, pull it tight, making it go strait down top frame tube, if tail is alighned correctly, you should be able to pull wire strait on top tube & have it fall on your marks you made on cross tube & axle as well. If not you may need to even out the points lower frame tubes were cut by a hair.


When you think you have it dead strait, tack one bottom rail, recheck alighnment, tack other lower rail, & then center tubes slug at bottom as well. Then on mine, I needed to flex the upper tubes up just a hair to meet the way I liked. I cut a peice of wood to tap inbetween lower & upper cross tubes on tail to flex top tubes up a hair, then tacked them. The rechecked alighment. Small tack bead until your 100 percent you have it.


Good, now the tail is in place. Most normal people would be home free at this point.


But not me baby........now I can wack off the front.......now we're havin fun. .........


See what the 21 may looki likie on rear...


Now we are getting somewhere.....it looks like it will like a lower, sleeker front arrangement. Just need to clean 3 old tubes, & several gussets off the stock neck.


This concludes todays installment of how to's. Not shown was - How to cut your finger 1/2 off with afore mentioned wheel of death, or how to break your huge bench top vise, or how to get enough grinding disc the first trip to store.........

05-09-2010, 9:21 AM
Oh man I cant wait for the next episode!

05-09-2010, 9:43 PM
Ok Danny, todays your day then. I got to play a bit with Mock up today. The proportions of the XS front hoop are way different then what Im used to on the Brit bikes. The rear tube of front hoop on Brit bikes is way back behind motor, where as the xs is right behind motor. Makes it a bit harder to get a tank the to sit how I like in relation to the motor.

Cleaned the tubes & gussets off the neck first, so I could remount it on Fork. I wanted to reuse stock neck to save the VIN number.


Then I hung the front end out in the breeze to see where Im going here, & tried the tanks & seat on loosely.
I am in love with the Fab Kevin Hinge. I am not in love with the tanks yet, they need a good wacking.


The tanks are a tad wide in the rear. Ill either cut them diagnal to taper them towards rear so sides stay flat, like Trent wants, or notch them on the outsides in rear like cafe tanks a bit so they stay wide but knees have a place to tuck in. Or leave them apocalyptically big.......


Over all its getting there proportionally. Itll be nice at end of week to have the 21"s set up to use to get a better idea.


No injuries today.....well I did catch my favorite hoodie on fire. This bike is workin me. Im not seeing the daylight yet.

05-10-2010, 12:10 AM
Man this thing is going to be outrageous! Keep the pics coming.

05-10-2010, 6:54 PM
if i have anything to say about it, it will be crazy like a drunken, coked-out stripper.

go jeff!

05-13-2010, 1:21 AM
OK, tonite I notched the bottom of tanks to get them down over motor a bit & have tops of them be more in line with the seat, very happy there, a million times better.



Made a new top tube that follows the contour of tops of tanks & drops neck way down from stock height.



I reduced the rake a bit from where I had it & tacked it together barely to see where I am at & start on the front tube & motor mount.. Over all I feel a million times better about the direction its going, I just might pull this off.


No injuries were sustained once again tonite. Im on a roll.

05-13-2010, 5:08 AM
Jeff, man, you always manage to get the stance just right on your builds. Definitely heading in the right direction. Now, about those tanks... :)

05-17-2010, 1:30 AM
Thank you John, I try to make them look rite....sometimes.

Tonite I got the seat shock rearranged & mounts welded, swapped in lighter spring so it acually moves now. Got the downtube made, nailed the frame together to where Im happy with it. Made new bars from the Excellent Elswick bars that werent doing it on this bike (I felt horrible cutting them) I added some ends on from some neat old itailian bars I had that have the levers built into the bars, slick..

I took a little more rake out of the bike as well. Gabe fromn After hour chopper made the killer risers from brass. Rear fender & fairing will be brass as well.

Heres some shots in no particular order from tonite. I was toying with idea of putting oil tank (extra gas) behind seat, prolly a bad idea, but who knows?

2 weeks & counting down.







05-17-2010, 5:15 AM
damn, that bitch is looking mean! love the way the downtube came out. how long is the bike now?

05-19-2010, 12:48 AM
Whoah Jeffy...that downtube rocks the world man.

05-19-2010, 7:15 PM
Von, Ya know, I habve no idea, I'll have the measure it. Itll change a bit once the for real wheels & tires are on it as well.

Clay! Welcome to the other side. Glad youre diggin the downtube, means a lot coming from the king. I hope youre gonna post your 750 dirt bike here on CC.

05-19-2010, 9:09 PM
The stance is sick . Lovin it!

05-23-2010, 11:52 PM
Thanks Viz.

Ok, I need to post a lot of pics from last week, Im tired so I'll put a couple of the weirder ones up now, more later.

I made a brass fairing I dont love yet.


And Im thinking of giving the passenger as smooth a ride as the driver.....crazy talk , I know, but I dont think Ive ever seen it done?


Nite all.

05-28-2010, 9:43 AM
interesting stuff Jeff! you plan on rounding the front of those tanks? looks like some sharpie lines on there.

05-29-2010, 9:56 PM
Yes, Tamks will get redone tomm. They get rounded & narrowed a bit. Exhaust needs done, & rear seat arrangement. Itll be a full day,

05-31-2010, 10:48 PM
OK, long time no posty.

I redid the tanks. Smaller in every direction. Remade the back bone to match tanks profile.

Made rear brake lever mount, very simple on this bike. Made a sissy bar thing.

I WAcked out the lower section in front on the frame & redid it.........









Good nite all.

06-04-2010, 3:37 AM
Been working oin this for a while. First attemt was a failure in design, this time I nailed it. Sprung Passenger seat/luggae rack. All the rear seat setup will remove with 2 pins.



I got the tanks in plastic , ready for primer & paint. Theyll be sweet.


06-05-2010, 8:50 AM
Black, I love black.


06-05-2010, 8:59 AM
Ahhhh i cant wait for re-assembly!

06-09-2010, 4:15 PM
looking awesome dude, I'm hanging on every post.

06-10-2010, 2:21 PM
And here's the saddle that will be sitting on this fine machine

06-14-2010, 2:28 PM
you kicked so much ass on that saddle, matt.

jeff was just too slammed to post anything the final week, guys, but here are some pix we took saturday at matt's for your viewing pleasure.





right now jeff is driving back to maryland and i suspect it will be a few days until we see him messing around much online. please tell him how fucking rad the FREEDOM OR DEATH Machine is.

you guys can read more about the bike and see more pix now and as the next few days and weeks progress at bikerMetric (http://www.bikermetric.com).

06-14-2010, 3:29 PM
That bike is CRAZY!! Great job on it. Really Really different. Lots of cool little details here and there.

06-14-2010, 3:37 PM
thanks, mike! jeff freaking nailed it, and so did a lot of other guys who helped make it happen. i couldn't be happier. it was done so inexpensively, so fast, and is so cool. glad you like it, man!