View Full Version : '08 Short Chop

04-14-2014, 8:46 AM
Oi! Three steps forward, four back.

Turned my back when the bike was on the stand to grab a socket and sure enough it fell hard on its side. I didn't have the pegs on, so I bent my shifter shaft. Replaced it thinking I found all the damage only to find the bars bent good. Damn!

Decided to tear the frontend down and do the springer. Glad I did. I like it this way. It's a Paughco with ThreeTwo Choppers wishbone front legs. I had to shorten both the front/rear legs, make risers for the drag bars, caliper mount, upgrade brakes ect, ect and then powder it all. Seems like it took forever between work trips. To top it off, I dropped the headlight this morning shattering the lens. Sheesh!

Anyway, here are a couple pics:

Before it fell:

http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/k617/Helibee/Harley/EFDABEBB-28EB-4236-91C0-3EAD6B5E1DCB_zpscklmmpfg.jpg (http://s1118.photobucket.com/user/Helibee/media/Harley/EFDABEBB-28EB-4236-91C0-3EAD6B5E1DCB_zpscklmmpfg.jpg.html)


http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/k617/Helibee/imagejpg1_zps6bb7ccf6.jpg (http://s1118.photobucket.com/user/Helibee/media/imagejpg1_zps6bb7ccf6.jpg.html)

http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/k617/Helibee/imagejpg2_zpsbc63d932.jpg (http://s1118.photobucket.com/user/Helibee/media/imagejpg2_zpsbc63d932.jpg.html)

04-14-2014, 9:56 AM
The ass end dimensions are spot on. Not too long, not too short. Can't say I personally am feeling the front end but that's just me. I don't like chunky Sportsters.. like chunky women.. not Sportsters. Saw it on the other board too. Your detail and fab skills are impressive. Great job. You a helicopter technician?

04-14-2014, 1:36 PM
that bike looks great love the shortness and squat proportions of the bike

04-14-2014, 1:55 PM
Looks great. Don't paint the tins. Leave them bare metal.

04-14-2014, 3:09 PM
Shitface: I was a heli mechanic. Seems a lifetime ago. Good years with no regrets though.

Thanks Dave/wnrn. Tins are staying raw until/unless I decide on a paint scheme. I like it raw right now.

04-14-2014, 6:29 PM
I think it looks perfect. Fatter the better. Mines at a similar point however my fenders dented up so I cant handle leaving it bare metal. Too many choices of paint colors to choose from. Keep up the good work

04-17-2014, 10:43 AM
Wow that bike looks increduble. Looks like a japonees speshel

04-27-2014, 6:26 PM
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http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/k617/Helibee/imagejpg6_zpsef97c1b3.jpg (http://s1118.photobucket.com/user/Helibee/media/imagejpg6_zpsef97c1b3.jpg.html)

http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/k617/Helibee/imagejpg3_zps012d8260.jpg (http://s1118.photobucket.com/user/Helibee/media/imagejpg3_zps012d8260.jpg.html)

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04-29-2014, 1:50 PM
This scooter has outstanding lines. Good choice of wheels and tire profile. This is one tight Sporty, man...


http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h105/canyoncarver/EMD-ChopCult_zps6689c042.jpg (http://s62.photobucket.com/user/canyoncarver/media/EMD-ChopCult_zps6689c042.jpg.html)

06-07-2014, 6:12 AM
Dang it boy!!! That came out killer!

06-07-2014, 6:54 PM
Thanks man. I wish it was on the road. Work keeps getting in the way!

More today. Trying stuff out to see what I want. Pipes are a PiA! Spent most of the day screwing around with them.

http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/k617/Helibee/imagejpg1_zpsc93d9353.jpg (http://s1118.photobucket.com/user/Helibee/media/imagejpg1_zpsc93d9353.jpg.html)

http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/k617/Helibee/imagejpg2_zps17f637dd.jpg (http://s1118.photobucket.com/user/Helibee/media/imagejpg2_zps17f637dd.jpg.html)

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06-08-2014, 6:12 PM
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06-08-2014, 8:15 PM
Was looking way good, but that headlight...

06-09-2014, 8:54 PM
For you shitbike:

http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/k617/Helibee/image_zpsb429a94e.jpg (http://s1118.photobucket.com/user/Helibee/media/image_zpsb429a94e.jpg.html)

06-10-2014, 7:45 PM

06-12-2014, 10:36 AM
Beautiful ride man

06-12-2014, 11:40 AM
That really is a sexy scooter.

I love new chains lol. Is it just me??

Its the lack of "Sag" I suppose. They just look good.

Fantastic job buddy

06-12-2014, 12:35 PM
any concerns about that rear exhaust mount? my exhaust needs repair every 2000miles (rigid rubbermount)

06-12-2014, 4:51 PM
Thanks guys. I'm getting stoked. I'm looking forward to seeing how this thing pulls with the mik42 and the magneto at wot.

Woz, not sure how the rear exhaust mount will ultimately work out, but the motor isn't fully rigid. I did make some delrin bushings for the rear rubber mounts to reduce shake, and that's why I tied the rear exhaust mount to the swingarm bolt, so it should move with the motor. I don't expect as much movement as stock though, so hopefully it won't be an issue over the long haul, but I'm guessing.

06-13-2014, 7:38 PM
Which pipe is that? Looks like the Cobra.

Or hand built?

06-14-2014, 6:02 AM
It's a cut up V&H BT Propipe with a Cone Engineering Comp Muffler.

I want to mount a oil temp gauge near the front of the cam cover, which is why the front pipe swings a bit wider there. Anyone have any ideas on how and what to mod to run a mechanical (non-electric) temp gauge to the temp pressure switch hole on the front of the case?

06-14-2014, 5:27 PM
Have you seen these motor mounts? I'm running them on mine, I haven't road tested them yet but I have ran the bike on the lift and my exhaust is frame mounted and has been fine.


06-15-2014, 7:25 AM
I have seen those. I think with the combination of the inserts and the more rigid Drag Specialty isolators, that it will reduce movement a lot. If it becomes a problem, I'll solid mount it. I really don't think a little movement with a short chain will cause any problems, but we'll see.

I already have my next version in the works; an on/off road version with 8" of travel. The motor will be rigid mounted and hung like a Buell, by the upper and rear motor mounts, ala BitPusher.

Otherside, how tall is your sissy? I'm thinking of adding one so I can carry camping gear.

06-15-2014, 5:00 PM
My sissy is 16 inches from the top of the fender.

06-15-2014, 6:36 PM

06-16-2014, 2:54 PM
Have you seen these motor mounts? I'm running them on mine, I haven't road tested them yet but I have ran the bike on the lift and my exhaust is frame mounted and has been fine.


Let us know how they are after you road test them. I get chain slap like a mother fucker on mine.
I just have the stock isolaters with an additional peice of DOM tubing in the rear mount to help reduce movement (I copied the idea from a rubbermount build that 007 did).

TB, I love what you did with the exhaust and how you monted it. Super clean.

06-16-2014, 7:51 PM
Yah I'll let yall know how the mounts work. Here's another much cheaper option made for the xr race series from vane and hines:


I couldn't tell yah if they fit or work on non xr bikes and I've never heard of anyone running them but for $40 the may be worth a shot.

06-28-2014, 7:10 PM
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http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/k617/Helibee/imagejpg2_zps57c77b00.jpg (http://s1118.photobucket.com/user/Helibee/media/imagejpg2_zps57c77b00.jpg.html)

06-29-2014, 9:28 PM
Is that a stock gear cover?

06-30-2014, 9:23 AM
Sprocket cover? It one off an earlier sporty, '83-'03 I think?

07-01-2014, 2:11 PM
You have an awesome looking bike. How difficult was the springer front end conversion? Looks great!

07-01-2014, 9:06 PM
Thx Morris. The springer took some work, particularly getting the length right. I got the Paughco in a trade and had to shorten it. The turning radius is reduced from stock. Look up mreed. He made trees with greater offset to cure the turning interference at the down tubes. The whole thing took time, of course, and there were some pain in the ass moments, but it turned out okay. I'm anxious to give it a spin.

08-16-2014, 7:57 PM
I need some help. After fixing a tank leak, I've got it starting with hardly a blip of the starter; but it's only running on the front cylinder. Suggestions? I've swapped the plug wires and plugs with no change. The rear cylinder stays cool to the touch.

http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/k617/Helibee/imagejpg2_zpseba2bd56.jpg (http://s1118.photobucket.com/user/Helibee/media/imagejpg2_zpseba2bd56.jpg.html)

http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/k617/Helibee/imagejpg1_zps956dbb47.jpg (http://s1118.photobucket.com/user/Helibee/media/imagejpg1_zps956dbb47.jpg.html)

08-17-2014, 11:06 AM
For what its worth, the bike needed to be timed off the rear cylinder due to the magneto being driven off the #2 cam, which in turn is connected to the rear intake valve. Also, with the delrin inserts and DS rubbermounts (and probably my front stabilizer link configuration) the motor seems solid with little shake. Which is good as the chain likes to bounce.

08-17-2014, 5:34 PM
if your afraid its not firing, just put another plug in it and see if you have spark on that cylinder. if you have spark, your now onto a fuel issue. simple as that assuming you have comparable compression on both banks.

08-18-2014, 12:58 PM
if your afraid its not firing, just put another plug in it and see if you have spark on that cylinder. if you have spark, your now onto a fuel issue. simple as that assuming you have comparable compression on both banks.

"I've swapped the plug wires and plugs with no change."

08-27-2014, 12:58 AM
Is that a rear wheel you're running up front? Did you machine the hub down?

08-27-2014, 6:10 AM
Nope. It's a front wg wheel.

09-03-2014, 7:22 PM
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09-03-2014, 9:25 PM
is the mag new?

09-04-2014, 4:56 AM
Its a new MM.

09-09-2014, 7:54 AM
I know you're all probably tired of seeing this thing, but as of Sunday, she has 30 miles on it.

Starts and runs as well as it did as an EFI motor, and rides MUCH better than it did when I bought it with the stock suspension. Need to put the tach on it and install the 1250 kit and then I'm doing a 1600 mile trip.


11-04-2014, 10:01 PM
TB u got a cool build going on hereturn out sweet .have a couple question for u on your rear master cylinder ,what year on master cylinder & can u take pic on how u mount it or explain how u install it:killerjob::killerjob:

12-19-2014, 5:13 AM
Holy crap I missed this a long time ago.

It's a sprocket cover mounted m/c obviously. The bolt pattern was not the same as the oem '08, but the 2 front holes were. For the lower third bolt, I made threaded bung and welded it to a tab with a mill slotted hole. It allowed the bung to float until the cover bolt is tightened, and then the tab bolt is tightened. Works fine.

Here's my latest:

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