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billyolds
02-21-2014, 1:27 PM
none of this would have been possible with out maveric from shadowriders.com doing a write up years ago. thanks.


This mod will allow you to run any one inch big twin front end you can dream of or afford, i just came a cross a springer.

to start from the begining:
I found a 6" over springer on craigslist. I had only one afternoon to grab it and i happened to be at a titty bar before noon that day. I would love to hear what that dude thought of my buddy and I stumbling into his house. I intended that springer on a few ideas, none of them for the shadow. Two years later I had to put it on the shadow. I got told by a dude I met at tar ball run 4, my bike was cool but the frame is so ugly. He hit the nail on the head, at the core these hondas have an engineered modern ugy ass frame. I went home that weekend inspired and stairing at the ugly dna springer i bought drunk, I knew it was a match for an ugly frame, add an ugly headlight and ugly may be cool. I sure think it is.

This mod is not hard if you use your head. I havent spent much, nor has anything ended up not working the first time. I used basic tools and ingunity. The welding excluded but still, watch some you tube and borrow a friends flux core and learn about grinding, you should be fine. Common sense not being so common these days, be careful.

I trusted mavericks numbers...thanks for having good numbers.

I contacted ratholecycles@yahoo.com his name is ray, he made me a deal over the phone, we talked numbers, he sent me all the right shit. I would persuade you to buy from him if you can.

He took a neck slug and turned down 5 1/8 to 1.634. He also sells bearings, races, cups, and dust seals. He pressed my races in the cups for me as well.

I grabbed a 5/8th by 2ft piece of all thread from work with three inch washers. My press.

get the bike secured and start the tear down

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laying out cuts
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yes, hand hack saw
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found out maverick is a good guy:jamming:
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first mock up, you can see my stand, 2x12 with tie towns and a floor jack, oh and that this is gna be badass.
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after hack sawing my cups, the lower need cut off wheels to finish the job, be careful of your radiator.
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notice the silver on the radiator...be careful
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have your new neck in the freezer, it will shrink it to make pressing easier
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so now is where i differ from maverick, hes got a great idea to keep everything straight and good, however i paid to have stuff machined, as long as that is the surface im pressing my cups into im fine, hence no drill press rape.
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this is where a cood line and a solid cut make the difference
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I made a patch out of cardboard and then transfered it to thin metal i grabbed from work, fit so good it stayed on its own

bearing cups where also frozen to aid on install
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turn to turn made it by maybe an eighth of an inch
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franken headlight
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a straight bar cause none others fit and i was ready for a test ride.
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:cheersmate:

chykal
02-21-2014, 4:42 PM
Great write up and nice ride man. I dig the "ugly" look. I am looking to put a springer on a 96 vn800. This gave me some ideas. Thanks.

Philphine
02-26-2014, 7:22 PM
thanks. saving this in my "sources" file. i'd love to put a springer on my little vlx one day.

locodelaislapr69
03-12-2015, 6:23 PM
Hey what's going on,my name is jr., i want to say i like what you did with your honda with the springer front, wanted to see if you can give me some pointers since i saw that you did yours, i have a 95' honda vlx 600, i bought a dna springer front and wanted some help from you.

Phantom09
03-12-2015, 7:46 PM
Looking good billy. I'm in the fence still on a springer, wish they made a narrower front end than the stock.

Shittyvlx
03-13-2015, 2:48 AM
Great work! I'd love to do that ��

billyolds
03-13-2015, 7:35 PM
Great work! I'd love to do that ��

do it man! aint you in florida? Its looking like im gna have a summer and half, stop by orlando and knock it out in a day if you have the parts all in order.


Looking good billy. I'm in the fence still on a springer, wish they made a narrower front end than the stock.

change you neck out to a one inch and you can run any hd...about as narrow as you want.

Phantom09
04-05-2015, 8:03 AM
change you neck out to a one inch and you can run any hd...about as narrow as you want.

Its in the works, trying to find a narrow glide. You ever in OK hit me up, might need a hand with it.