View Full Version : My bolt on sporty "build"

02-13-2014, 10:33 PM
feel free to critique me on this thing.

quick "story" on this thing.

bought it last summer with 25k miles for 3000$ it is an 01' 1200C.

got it from a good friend of mine that does auto body. he traded some work for it. it was an ugly boner bike with all the usual lame ass "eagle spirit" shit on it.

my buddy cleaned it up and took off the stupid shit, got drag bars on it, lowered it, and raked it 7 degrees over stock (cut neck..... done proper by his dad, who has built tons of choppers for years)

looked something like this when i bought it. sorry, some of these pics suck. just learning how to do photobucket.

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OK so i rode it all summer and did a few things.

so far:

i have a bobtail fender on it from my friends' 64 sporty.....
resprayed the tins (they were scratched to hell)
moved the speedo with a nightster bracket
12" narrow Z bars, with old school grips and stock controls
joker machine mirrors (worth every dime, if your considering using full controls, consider their stuff.
black bates style headlight
front lowering kit (to match the rear)
noschool choppers blacked out shock mount taillight/bracket (nice ass product, seriously)
todd's cycle blinkers for rear
MOON intake, timing cover, derby cover.
16" road glide front wheel (spoke), redrilled and tapped to accept sportster sprocket/rotor for rear
21" twisted spoke front.
bike is lowered with 10.5 progressive shocks and 1" lowering blocks on the swingarm
also i have a coil relocation and key relocation bracket, with screamin' eagle wires

at this point im looking for ideas. i plan to run paughco upswept goose cut pipes, old school tires (speedmaster front, duro 302B rear) i also am individually covering the wires with nylon paracord liner and braiding the harness, since i am running full controls and blinkers, you can see a lot of the harness.

anyways i was hoping you guys could give me some ideas as to what you would change. i like the narrow brat style bikes here...... but the rules are i have to keep this ride user friendly (full controls) and be able to carry a passenger (girlfriend says so) if i wanted to be uncomfortable, id ride my cafe' or hardtail xs 650s. anyways, heres a dump of photos of the progress. help me before i get it too done and get lazy lol :cheersmate:

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02-13-2014, 10:38 PM
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fender before paint:

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spoke wheel all drilled and tapped ready to go:

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"the boss" (i am proud of myself)
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more coming.....

02-13-2014, 10:45 PM
last summer as i rode it

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more random shit. wiring etc

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I really dont know what to do with the front end of this thing. I love the look of the fork shrouds, but im not ready to give up my front fender. i ride it every day and i get caught in the MN weather so i like to have a fender, but i cant stand the fork legs. I am considering a set of black shrouds, powdercoating the legs black, and notching the shrouds to clear for the fender, but i dont want to compromise safety for looks on this particular bike. so any ideas or pictures for comparison are a giant help for me. kinda having builders (or bolter's i guess) block on this one. will gaiters look stupid on a bike that has rake? its not an insane amount of rake as you can see but its just enough to look "chopperish". i dont really like rake but its done and im not changing it back. im hoping lowering the front with the 1.5" kit i have will make it look a little less raked. anyways, rip away guys. thx

02-13-2014, 11:57 PM
I love tits

02-14-2014, 4:55 PM
i already hate photobucket.
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02-14-2014, 6:36 PM
I love that you called it a boner bike. Thats what I was calling mine when I got it with all the live to ride boner accessories all over it. Its amazing how losing all that crap and a few bolt ons will really change it up.

02-14-2014, 9:34 PM
I love that you called it a boner bike. Thats what I was calling mine when I got it with all the live to ride boner accessories all over it. Its amazing how losing all that crap and a few bolt ons will really change it up.

i totally stole that shit from you man! i like your build. ill try to sort mine out better and get some good pics once it warms up enough to work on it more.

i feel that i will be pointing out a lot of boner bikes this summer. its just fitting terminology for the badged up piles of shit everyone rides around here.........

02-14-2014, 10:36 PM
haha yeah its a great blanket term for pretty much every bike at the weekly local bike night.

02-15-2014, 2:14 PM
so im either gonna give up and ditch the front fender and go with fork shrouds and paint the lowers to match, or im gonna get some vinyls made to go between the trees on the fork tubes to make them black, powder the triple trees black, and paint the lowers black also, to keep the fender. and finish it off with some 48' fork gaiters. that should black everything out while maintaining a fender.....

what would you do? i personally like the look of the shrouds and no front fender, but i really really cant stand riding in any sort of rain with no fender. i already get wet as hell and i dont want to make it worse. and honestly, my fender doesnt look too bad on the bike. cant make a decision though

02-15-2014, 2:51 PM
Try posting more pics of your girl, that might help.

02-15-2014, 3:38 PM
+1 ^^^^^^^

02-16-2014, 12:31 PM
haha nope thats all u get ;)

02-20-2014, 6:06 PM
so today i bought a shinko tire for the sporty. I have heard so much negative about coker and firestone repops, that i went with a shinko, which comes almost as poorly reviewed, but screw it, i like the old school look.

what i dont like, is it looks really narrow...... i understand that its gonna have kinda a flat look to the tread, but i thought they had more of a baloon look to the sidewalls, kinda like a duro or an avon?

the MT 90/16 (according to a chart) sizes the same as a 130/90/16 tire. my stock sportster wheel has that size tire on it, and it seems a little wider. so basically im hoping that this thing will widen out with a blown up tube inside it, on the rim. im sure it will a little, but i dont know how much. all of the "baloon" style old school tires i like are 5.00" wide 16" diameter, which is what i want. usually the overall height is the difference. this one seems very close to stock. i just dont want it to look way skinny, or way wide. so anyways, anyone got a pic of the rear or an angle shot of one of these on a sportster wheel? when i google it, all i get are pics of the tire off a rim. thanks, and more pics to come in a few days

02-20-2014, 7:15 PM
also i cant find the directional arrow on this tire..... nowhere inside or on the outside that i can see

03-02-2014, 4:13 PM
so the tire is on and i fought with the bearings for a while. bought a cheap blind puller and it didnt work for shit of course so i ended up doing it the old fashioned way with 1" re bar and a big punch. worked pretty good. now gonna use a 3/4" all thread rod and some big washers to pull the new bearings into the hub. it will also keep the center spacer lined up nice and tight. after that, im pullin the bitch in my kitchen so i can get some shit done. its starting to come together now....... but the more i mess with it the more i pull it apart to change other shit. once i finish the back wheel i will do the blinkers and wire it all up, relocate the key switch and coil and figure out a seat that doesnt look out of place on the bike. the zombie performance guy says he will make 14" squids so i may go for a set of those, but it'd be the last thing. still debating on the fork shrouds or gaiters cant decide which

03-04-2014, 4:45 PM
well i got the spoke done and on. bike will come inside to get a little more complete this friday. here is a pic of the wheel. i am happy with everything, but i think the shinko is just a little bit narrower than the 130/90 and it bothers the hell out of me, so i might get something different for a tire. money well wasted tho, the shinko will look great on my xs 650 chop.

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03-04-2014, 4:54 PM
after throwing the caliper on the tires i see that the shinko (mt90) is only 1/4" narrower than the 130/90 that was on it. i think the flat sided tire just looks that much narrower in there. i think ill go to dennis kirk and see what an avon tire measures up to. i dont really want to go with a new tread style, and i only have 1/4" of clearance i could safely go wider before the tire is interfering with the belt. i hate to get too picky but its bother the shit out of me haha

03-04-2014, 5:27 PM
Is that a drag spec bobbed fender there? The 7 inch wide one? I have one of those laying around the garage and have never chopped it to see what it might look like on a bike. It looks good on there mounted, although if I use it I'll chop the fender struts off and cut the fender waaaay down. It looks great though if you plan to retain the 2-up capability.

Still thinking there's a problem involving your girl though. Not quite sure...


03-04-2014, 5:37 PM
the fender came off of my friends 1964 sportster, but he says that he doesnt think it was stock, so i assume it would be the drag spec. one. it is 7" wide. i had to fill the old holes and mount it myself. if this were a solo ride bike, i would def do what you will and chop the fender struts and make it about 8" shorter. the diameter of it is a little weird too. i would have brought it back some to tip it up a little but it wouldnt match the seat that way. so if you turn it way upward or forward just keep in mind that you will have to be a little creative when using a stock style seat (if you go that route)

03-12-2014, 7:47 PM
made some progress, but not much for pics yet. here's some of the small shit going on.

got the wiring from the front end back covered and braided, and all that shit put back on the bike. Had some time off work so i went to dennis kirk and got the deutcsh connectors to make my taillight and blinkers work, and removable. once you get used to those connectors, they just make sense. everything ive wired looks like factory, and the factory stuff looks like a complete shitstorm.

the blinkers are some jammer cycle bullet marker lights, which fit the old school look i desire. they are amber and are probably supposed to be fronts, but in MN they dont have to be red.

I ordered that lepera cherokee seat but of course they look like shit for this year of bike but i got it cheap so it will go to the upholstery shop to get some diamond tuck n' roll treatment, and hopefully it will look good. that should be here monday. also i ordered a length of powerbraid by painless wiring to cover the main part of the harness before it all splits off, just to make things easy and so i dont have to cover 42 wires individually that all split off three times. so sometime on tuesday i should have pics of the bike with the wiring done, tank on, and seat on. i havent decided what to do with the lowering kit for the front. it sits almost perfectly level now, so i think that a 1.5" lowering kit is too much. i might just slide the fork tubes up 3/4" and that'll make it sit just right.

might not be most peoples style, but its my daily rider and it should get some attention. oh one more thing. i am loving this paughco 2-1 header i keep seeing but i also have heard it is extremely restricting because its not a merge collector, and people are claiming a 10hp loss vs. a true dual or a good 2-1. For the style i want to go for, i need a long upswept exhaust, like the 2-1 or their upswept systems. thoughts?

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03-12-2014, 8:56 PM
thats a tidy little xs650

03-12-2014, 9:35 PM
thats a tidy little xs650

thanks. my dad bought it new, and i finally talked him out of it. its basically original minus the bars and mufflers. too nice to cut up

03-15-2014, 5:57 PM
waiting on a different seat, but i threw the tank on it to check harness routing. looks like a bike! ignore the loose wiring, i ran out of pins to shorten that part so i have to get some on monday.

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03-17-2014, 5:29 PM
well i gave up on the hopes of getting a newer lepera cherokee seat to fit, and i got this one off ebay for a good deal. nipped off the stupid tassels, and it looks pretty good. fits pretty nice, not bad. comfy, and a tiny bit narrower than my badlander style seat.

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think ill take it in for some diamond pleating and a sissy bar with removable pad

03-17-2014, 7:13 PM
Good looking bike man. How tall are those bars?

03-17-2014, 7:20 PM
Good looking bike man. How tall are those bars?

they are 12" Z bars by LA choppers. PITA to pull wiring for......

03-26-2014, 5:14 PM
small improvements, but i might as well keep the pics rolling. as soon as the 40mph wind and 30 degree weather gives up, ill get it outside and get some real pics. still waiting on some electrical connectors, but the good news is all the plugs still fit up under the tank tunnel so it'll be all nice and tidy.

got some crankcase breathers and got rid of the big pancake spacer. contemplating powdering the carb housing black.....

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03-30-2014, 7:06 PM
well not many people talking here so either i suck or nobody bothers typing. anyways it has a lot of views so here are some pics of it outside and back together.

everything went well with the wiring except the taillight was wrong and i had constant power going to the brake light. snip of one wire and im back in the game. i just clipped the orange/white wire which is accessory 12v, i hope it doesnt need to be connected to something...... any in put is appreciated.

still waiting to decide on an exhaust and what the hell to do with the forks. i still think it looks a little tall up front, but the pipes and frame seem level.

any input is appreciated

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03-30-2014, 9:02 PM
Looks pretty rad man. not a fan of those bars so much, but love the seat and fender combo.

03-31-2014, 8:56 AM
yeah, i get mixed reviews on the bars. i need something tall, im 6-1 and the drag bars hurt my back. i might go with something a little different but the same height.

04-12-2014, 10:09 PM
you should really look into Dkcustoms relocation products, Will tighten up the bike and look a lot neater.

04-12-2014, 10:35 PM
I'm running fork shrouds with a fender right now, and I even have a lowered front end. Just some minor mods to the fender. I made a thread a few days ago.

04-12-2014, 10:51 PM
Bike is looking sweet! Did you have to do anything special to run the mooneyes air filter? Also do you have photos of how you relocated your coil? Looks great

04-13-2014, 10:38 AM
well first off, thanks for the good ups, ive worked hard on this little thing but i got to ride it and it was flawless.

also, it already has the DK relocation for the coil and key, and the horn is removed. the bracket is flipped up and spun backwards to sit nice and tidy, i can get better pics of it if you'd like. personally i didnt use the ignition relocation. no way i turned or looked at it would work, so i just used the rubber and the bolt and made a hole in the battery box. it is nice and tidy and is dampened by the rubber mounted battery box so it should hold up well.

the mooneyes filter kit will bolt right up, you have to make sure the bracket is clocked properly to not block the air inlet holes on the carb but it takes about 5 minutes to install. i especially like the breather bolt kit, which allows you to remove the big donut breather and hoses so the filter is tighter to the carb and further from your leg (with forward controls). since the last pic i have added mini floorboards to the rear which i will get more pics of later.

04-13-2014, 10:41 AM
I'm running fork shrouds with a fender right now, and I even have a lowered front end. Just some minor mods to the fender. I made a thread a few days ago.

yeah i have heard of it. i think im gonna give it a whirl, i really like the look of the shrouds. i just think the front end has something missing. i need to get the lowers done and do the shrouds, i think then i'll be happy with it. I am not lowering it in the front though, the rake paire up with the lowering kit was too much and messed up the trail measurement. SO i am going to slide the fork tubes down 3/4" to make the bike sit level and throw on the shrouds. ill get pics of that once i get it all done.

04-14-2014, 11:18 PM
Well its about riding season here, so im not digging real far into the bike anymore this year. however i still want to do an exhaust and handlebars. the narrow Z bars i like personally but at certain angles they just look weird. anyone got any ideas? pics and links are good.

personally i like the black bars, and i like the speedhole theme i have going on. that points to the typical roland sands bars, but the sizes i dont' like. they dip so far down that the end rise is all screwed up on them. the 12" bars are like 8 1/2 inches at the ends, which is too low, and the 16" are proper at the end rise but i think they look ridiculously big on a sportster. i want to stay at or around the 12" rise mark, which is where the current LA choppers z bars are. something just like i have but an inch wider at the base and 1 1/4 with gussets would be perfect. know anyone that'll make that for me? haha

04-15-2014, 3:57 AM
You've made some nice changes, it's got a good flow, and good for you for not calling it a build like other sporty threads where just air cleaner/bars/seat are changed. It looks good

04-15-2014, 9:52 AM
You've made some nice changes, it's got a good flow, and good for you for not calling it a build like other sporty threads where just air cleaner/bars/seat are changed. It looks good

thanks. people take their wording too far. there really is no hand made fab work so it (to me) is not built, but more bought. the only things that are machined or welded are the back hub and the raked neck but thats beginner shit anyways

04-22-2014, 4:58 PM
Ordered a bunch of stuff last week but nothing has shipped yet. went with the paughco upswept goose cut exhaust, and bought some other goodies from the moon catalog. i am having trouble getting the stuff though. the last time i ordered from MOON they sent me an email with a tracking number the next day and i had the stuff in three days. this time its been 5 days and my order still says "processing". also JP cycles says they have things in stock which they dont, so who knows when i will be seeing the exhaust. anyone had bad experiences with these places? im going to give them a few more days to produce tracking numbers before i get worried. i just hate having money out there and no product or timeline of when its getting here.

oh and since these pics i have made a few changes, but i was waiting on the pipes for more pics. i have put mini floorboards on, painted the back sides to match and cleared in some mooneyes in black (blk on blk) slid the fork tubes up 1" (lowering kit was too much to go along with the rake) swapped front pegs. next project (while i ride the fuck out of it) will to get a new sporty tank and find a way to incorporate the speedo into the top of it so i can ditch the speedo and shit up front.

04-22-2014, 7:37 PM
Looks good. I've been looking at the same exhaust, can't wait to hear you opinion. What type of turn signals are those, and are they LED or standard filament? Im in MN also is nice that riding weather has finally started to happen.

04-22-2014, 8:25 PM
Looks good. I've been looking at the same exhaust, can't wait to hear you opinion. What type of turn signals are those, and are they LED or standard filament? Im in MN also is nice that riding weather has finally started to happen.

they are standard filament. the rears are from dennis kirk i cant recall the brand and the fronts are some older mini bullets i believe are from kuryakn.

you could meet up with me somewhere and hear the exhaust for yourself this spring im just across the river in WI

04-23-2014, 10:31 PM
well its been a week. still no tracking numbers from mooneyes or from JP for the exhaust. they changed the exhaust from "ships in 5-7 days" to "out of stock"

they didnt charge me but my order is still pending..... i dont want to give up on these and suddenly have them take the dough out of my oh so small pocketbook without me knowing. should i cancel the order?

mooneyes is also "processing" but hasnt charged my card. the order went on my "pending transactions" but dropped off after 5 days and my account wasnt charged...... i just wish id get an email back at least telling me why my shit isnt being shipped after a week. bummin' me out man.......

04-24-2014, 10:50 AM
Pick up the phone

yes absolutely i did call JP cycles and they are of zero help and have no idea when or how i am getting my stuff they said 5-7 days which is already up and now the pipes are on backorder so who knows. so i either cancel the order and pay 100$ more for a set somewhere else (lowbrow is now out of them too) or just wait XXX amount of days and deal with it then which blows as well.

mooneyes did email me back after a couple days and told me that they are waiting for one of the things on my order, and gave me a timeline at least. so i guess i shouldnt bitch about mooneyes at least their customer service has something to help me with. il be picking up the phone for JP if i dont hear anything by monday or tuesday.

04-29-2014, 6:36 PM
You can order them from Paughco directly and they offer free shipping.

04-29-2014, 11:30 PM
good to know. it will be two weeks on thursday so im callin and cancelling the order then. mooneyes is supposedly sending my shit this week yet, but im in no hurry for that. ill be calling paughco and seeing what they can do for me. i can hardly go a day without bolting something new onto this thing, its not quite where i want it to be. and now i see that the tubular sissy bars from burly dont fit my year so im going to order up some bungs and make myself one. that will keep me busy while shits in the mail haha

05-05-2014, 7:28 PM
Nice looking scoot man, when got my Sporty it had "Born" crap on it too..........

My personal opinion its your bike, but i threw some brass foot pegs and brass shift toe peg from Speed Dealers.....well worth it

05-05-2014, 8:13 PM
i like the brass look, but i dont think it would be fitting as there is nothing else in brass on the bike. i have a performance machine shift peg i plan to get the matching pegs and keep the mini floorboards on the back. the mini boards are paint matched to harley vivid black they look pretty good. i will get more current pics next time i go for a ride.

05-08-2014, 10:40 PM
well i have the floorboards clear coated, back on the bike. exhaust is still backordered. might be building one this weekend. mooneyes finally shipped out, but ups is backed up (mothers day i suppose) so i dunno when ill see it. still looking into sissy bars, but i might end up making my own to resemble a burly brand.

if i make my own exhaust i will be doing it with mooneyes turnouts and rippled sections. long and straight and turning out by the rear axle, hanging fairly low. also will be changing the bars to what i dunno yet.....

05-24-2014, 8:54 AM
been doing nothing but working and riding this thing. not a lot of miles but i have managed to run about 5 tanks of fuel through it. no issues at all, real stoked on that. still waiting on some parts. i called JP cycles two weeks ago to cancel the pipes they never sent to me. after i cancelled the order, they sent them to me last night. so i guess im getting pipes.... which is cool. two months late..... yeah im not going to order from them ever again. my mooneyes order was late too but at least they got ahold of me and told me why. all of that stuff is here which is minor little shit. cant wait to hear how the paughco pipes sound without baffles. kinda scared ill lose power though so im going to see about some lollipops or torque cones or whatever works best, to maintain the power level i am at now.

05-25-2014, 10:26 AM
yeah i think i like that idea better than the torque cones. i have heard nothing good about them and the concept seems like a half assed fix. how big should the washer be in comparison to the pipe diameter?

05-26-2014, 11:22 AM

know where i can get one of these?
looks legit

05-26-2014, 11:50 AM
i found them but they havent been made for years....... i like how they are adjustable though pretty sweet

05-28-2014, 5:57 PM

An article from Cycle World (http://www.cycleworld.com/2011/03/24/to-snuff-or-not-to-snuff-by-steven-l-thompson/).

Here's an NOS set on eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-In-Package-Vintage-Snuff-Or-Nots-Snuff-or-Nots-Pair-S025-1-1-8-1-1-4-ID-/380900412014?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item58af6f0a6e&vxp=mtr) for serious bank


know where i can get one of these?
looks legit

05-28-2014, 7:43 PM
yeah i bought a pair, for about 40 times what they originally cost. haha oh well. i missed the ups guy but the pipes will be here tomorrow, the snuff-or-nots are shipped usps and should be here early next week. then i can start jetting it if need be (already has a dynojet kit in it) i think if i run the snuffs at 45' and turn out the idle screw a little it should be pretty close, since its jetted up from stock with aftermarket slip ons now. thoughts? plugs currently read very clean, but not white. a nice tan color and the burn line on the electrode looks to be showing a safe range. once in a while the bike does pop thru the carb on downshifting. usually the 2-1 shift and only when i dont match the gears perfectly

05-29-2014, 10:50 PM
pipes are in. just mocked them up. still waiting on the snuff or nots but the pipes are not completely satisfying to me.

i thought the look would be what i wanted on this bike, but the more i look at them the more i wish they were the exact same pipes but straight instead of upswept. it makes the bike look higher off the ground and it is lowered as much as a swingarm bike can go. also with the short shocks and lowering blocks in back, the pipes have to be tweaked outward just a little bit to clear the shock and that makes them look a tiny bit off to me as well. contemplating selling them before i get them all blued. the quality of the pipes is as expected for the price and the directions were a joke (i needed to know what bracket to use for what year, it comes with a three different ones) the tubing looks seamless hopefully it is. otherwise i am happy with the pipes for the price i will post pics tomorrow and let you know how it sounds before baffles. if i dont like this they are for sale and i am going to make some long drag pipes that meet at the rear axle and goose out just like these but straight, possibly with ripple pipe sections in the middle

05-30-2014, 8:10 AM
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i have sissy bar mounts that are painted black, i think i am getting a 10" or so sissy bar that i can make a pad slide onto for the old lady. that might make the pipes flow better. these things make power up top, have the low end flat spot (no jetting or baffles yet) but definately wake the bike up on the big end. they sound ok at idle and good up top, but sound like absolute dog shit on decelleration. hopefully the snuf or nots fix that nasty problem. all in all im not totally happy with the pipes but there is nothing i like completely so i will be ordering ripple pipes and a builder kit and making something and having it chromed. these will stay on until then i think. sorry to always be bumping this thread i kinda use this so i can see the process and decide if theres anything i want to change lol

06-02-2014, 11:19 AM
these "snuff or not's" are badass. between these, the stiffer (stock) slide spring, and screwing in the fuel screw to 2 turns, the bike is back to where it should be. no surging, no popping, etc. i am still waiting on a different intake as i think the mooneyes louvered cover is just too restrictive with only a 4" filter. i feel that i possibly did lose a couple hp on the bottom as to be expected, but nothing that really bothers me. it definately has more on the big end. the snuff or nots also fixed the horrible decelleration rasp and it didnt effect the overall sound on accelleration. they really did make me happy with the pipes. i know i could have done the lollipop mod for about 60$ less, but i like the nostalgic value of these, and also being able to turn them while riding to go full open is kinda cool. if you can find them and dont mind spending the dough, i highly suggest em. or if you are good at making shit, you could make your own improved version of the same thing.

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06-04-2014, 10:47 AM
I'm diggin this build. Just getting started on 03 1200S myself. What license plate/ Brake light bracket is that?

06-04-2014, 7:43 PM
from here it looks like a NoSchoolChoppers license/brake light setup.

06-05-2014, 8:26 AM
yeah its a noschool choppers blacked out 33 style tail. the lights are always the same, but the quality of the bracket itself is top notch. if you get one make sure you add a ground wire to one of the taillight bolts. i had it working, but the ground wasnt good enough and i was blowing bulbs left and right. added one and its been good since

06-09-2014, 9:51 PM
i couldnt find any sort of bag that would work with floorboards and the taillight setup i have so i tried my hand at leatherwork and made a little bag out of an old crusty one i had here. cut all the stitching apart made it the size i wanted and stitched it up with some thicker string doubled up. put a backer in it out of black ABS plastic which helps it hold shape and gives me a good source to mount it. it is mounted on the top with a bolt that comes off a tab on one of the brake caliper bolts, and the bottom is just drilled in two places and has a zip tie on the swingarm. just big enough to hold a leatherman, two wrenches, and a sunglass case with clears and a rag/bandanna.

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06-10-2014, 1:10 PM
I may have missed it but what rear fender is that?

06-10-2014, 6:45 PM
my friend had it on his 1964 sportster, but i dont' think it was a factory fender. i believe it was an early shovel fender. basically the same thing as a "quickbob" fender you can buy online these days.

06-10-2014, 8:20 PM
Wouldn't really work on any of my bikes but it looks great on yours man. To be a "bolt on build" it's a cool scoot man.

07-30-2014, 6:26 PM
looking for suggestions on handlebars. pics help! i have been digging around everywhere and i really cant find what i like. i want something around 28-30" wide, and 12" tall. the narrow Z bars are comfortable but they are a little narrower than the trees and just dont do it for me anymore. looking at the RSD vintage bars, but the end rise is only 8" and also EVERYONE has them. looking for something to fit the "vintage look" i want..... also looking at zombie performance bendalicious bars but the taller they get the weirder they look. bike will have a gasbox sissy bar (or one that i make similar to that)

07-31-2014, 8:57 AM
you could try an 8 inch bar with a 4 inch riser

07-31-2014, 3:25 PM
Just contact on of the sponsors. Steffan( Zombie Performance) Rene (Mercury Moto) Ironhead73 (Full Metal Fabrications), Pangea Speed. I'm leaving out tons but that is a few to start. Handlebars are like hookers, there are all sizes, shapes and colors and you have to ride what is comfortable for you. I personally have had a set of bars built by all of the guys I listed and every set was top notch.

07-31-2014, 3:29 PM
And on that same note Ironhead73 can also build you a killer sissy bar to your liking if you need. http://fullmetalfabrications.blogspot.com

08-02-2014, 5:21 PM
looks like i might try rene at mercury moto for some bars. i want something similar to a roland sands bar, but somewhere between that and the Z bars i have now. like a mini ape with a slight angle outward and a gusset, but not such a steep dropped angle with the hand controls. i got in at lowbrow and snatched up the last sissy bar they had in stock. im going to make a pad for it and have it upholstered to match my lepera cherokee seat as perfectly as possible and be nice and tidy so when bolted up it looks like its supposed to be one piece. after that, the front end is getting black fork shrouds, and powdercoat on the lowers and trees. gonna also make a minimalistic round stock fork brace, with a tiny little piece of fender like 2" long coming off the back nice and tight to the tire, to deflect a little water. gonna run a speedmaster i think for the tire. not exactly thrilled with the handling, but i like the look... and the shinko on the back isnt exactly state of the art either. il snap pics when i get these things rolling..... got a baby to take care of for now.

08-05-2014, 8:29 AM
If you really like those Roland Sands bars Road 6 has some very similar for a lot less. I had a set of them at one time and they were good quality bars and the open ends made them easy to internally wire up. http://store.road6customs.com/Handlebars_c2.htm?page=all

08-05-2014, 5:46 PM
yeah i have a friend with some 14" road6 bars. i dont mind them, only complaint is the bend on the uprights. the rolands are a little smoother in that area. otherwise they are the same bars. oh and the welds are MIG'd not TIG'd but that doesnt matter much to me, as long as it holds.

Got the sissy bar..... its a nice looking piece. went with that "rambler" by gasbox garage, as suggested to me here. it is 14" tall from the passenger seat up. it is pretty damn narrow however. i like it, but the storage in the backrest pad idea is out the window. theres just not enough meat there. Im trying to figure out how and what to use to make the base for the pad. i want to use a chrome allen head bolt to secure the thing, in three places. this will require me to add tabs but i dont mind, as the powder coat is completely the wrong color black and looks terrible against my new paint. also going to drill some "speed holes" in the mount portion of it. nothing too big just enough to add the flare that my controls and mirrors have, without sacrificing too much strength. The sissy bar is at less of an angle than id like it to be, but i think they angled it more for comfort than style. id like it to match the rake of the bike but wouldnt be comfortable to lean on. so its gonna stay at the angle its at.

08-27-2014, 7:56 PM
gasbox sissy bar. welded on some tabs, and drilled out the side plates for looks. i had to have it painted to match, because their paint is basically flat black and looked cheezy on it. im happy with how it turned out, but im not crazy about how narrow the pad is compared to the back seat. so sometime in the future im going to find or make a K&Q seat that flows better.

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09-22-2014, 4:51 AM
Are you digging those paughco pipes?

09-24-2014, 3:42 PM
i hated them until i put in the "snuff or not's" i bought off ebay straight outta the 60s. without any sort of baffle in them, they absolutely destroy low end power, cause a surging sensation (even with correct jetting) at certain rpms, and just in general sound like shit. BUT once i put in those snuff or nots (big lollipops would work fine too) they immediately suited my fancy. The chrome isnt the greatest quality so you have to kinda keep up on cleaning and polishing them but otherwise they are sweet.

10-09-2014, 4:03 PM
Sweet looking ride man. I want to do something to mine that's similar to yours, If you don't want those z bars once you get new ones, I'll buy them off you. I need some higher bars, cause I hate the buckhorn style ones that I have on there now.

10-10-2014, 3:46 PM
bars are coming off, for some roland sands 12" vintage bars, or something similar to that. i need a tiny bit more width.

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10-12-2014, 1:34 PM
good looking bike. but that sissy bar need to be waaaay taller

10-12-2014, 2:51 PM
and a weld on hardtail---mid controls---a skinny little easter egg tank--- the latest look at me lane splitter bars---
blah-blah-blah---bike looks good as it is---your bike your way rules

10-13-2014, 9:51 AM
haha! thanks for the suggestions guys. The bike is my daily rider, and i don't plan on hardtailing it. I do plan on making an actual king and queen seat though. The sissy bar is a store bought unit that i added tabs to and drilled out the side plates (for looks). its only 18" tall or whatever, but at that height it already vibrates like a sonofabitch. I think dudes are getting away with taller ones on hardtails because they mount at the bottom and near the middle on the fender, which spreads out the mounting points.

As for mid controls, hell no! this bike is just barely comfortable enough for me and my old lady. if i had mid controls i would feel way too crammed. I agree that mids look better, but its just not comfortable for me. The tank is stock and i want to do something different, but i really hate to lose any fuel capacity. As it is, im always the one that has to bother everyone for a fuel stop.

10-13-2014, 11:10 AM
I was laying out the mods for the sportster cookie cutter club. I prefer what you are doing.

10-13-2014, 2:29 PM
haha yep theres a lot of cookie cutter going on in the sportster world..... thanks for the kind words. i thoroughly enjoy this bike. more updates coming this winter.... gonna give the front end a facelift.

10-13-2014, 2:33 PM
The tank is stock and i want to do something different

Yea, I have looked and looked for a 4 Gal. tank that looks like the standard sporty tank to no avail.

10-13-2014, 3:20 PM
i am going to look into a frisco mounted sporty tank but i hate to buy one just to set it on the frame and realize i dont like it. i have also thought about raising the front and welding a new mount on the top of the backbone, but i refuse to put in one of those lame ass tank lift kits. i would rather do it right with a frisco tank i just havent decided. i need to decide what im doing there before i make the new seat pan.....

10-13-2014, 4:01 PM
two pieces of flat stock with holes drilled in each end. cheapest tank lift possible.

10-13-2014, 5:38 PM
yeah and ghetto as fuck. id rather add a mount to the top of the backbone like old sportsters had. that at least would look like less of an afterthought. to each his own i guess!

05-31-2015, 7:35 AM

here she is now. I would say im done with it but thats probably not true. I am thinking about a frisco mounted tank, powdering the lowers black and putting on a ducktail front fender to match the rear. I had considered going with no front fender but i dont like getting wet. It will still get a speedmaster up front. Someday soon i need to go thru the top end but it runs good for now :) The only change since last fall is the bars. went with the played out roland sands mini apes. Look good and more comfortable than the Z bars. I basically ditched the z bars because EVERYONE that looked at the bike bitched about them, and my OL likes to get wasted and push down on the floorboards and steer the bike for me at 2am. i decided i didnt need the trouble and got something a little wider hahaha.

The 650 cafe in the back is next. needs a rebuild and a cafe tail section and its done.