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vaderx11
01-04-2013, 5:08 PM
I have a hand shift, foot clutch set-up on my shovel. I've seen the new baker ratchet top 4-speed shift drum. It changes your shift pattern from 1-n-2-3-4 to n-1-2-3-4. It looks great! But i'm not down with the $350. Is there any other way to do this? Or even change the ratchet so that up shifting is forward on the shift lever and not back!

Thanks

NeoDutch
01-04-2013, 6:00 PM
Short answer no. Long answer Noooooooooo.

lvvato
01-04-2013, 6:06 PM
Short answer no. Long answer Noooooooooo.

+1

thehawgshop
01-04-2013, 7:34 PM
Sent you a message.

andri
01-04-2013, 7:37 PM
Unless you can make your own drum from scratch..

LDNCLR
01-04-2013, 9:55 PM
using the drum from an FL shovel will reverse the shift pattern.
It will be 1 back--3 forward

an FX shovel drum will be the typical jockey shift preferred 1 forward---3 back

Bandersnatch
01-05-2013, 11:22 AM
I thought the linkage was the difference between FX and FL shifting.....
http://i1270.photobucket.com/albums/jj620/heykidbyrnes/FLshiftertab.jpg
^^^^^^^FL
http://i1270.photobucket.com/albums/jj620/heykidbyrnes/FXshiftlinkage.jpg
^^^^^^^FX

So.......
If you wanted first gear to be "push the shifter forward for first" and "pull back for 2nd, 3rd, and 4th" during acceleration........you could use an FL tab/ear on your ratchet top and use a linkage setup like with a tankshift.
http://i1270.photobucket.com/albums/jj620/heykidbyrnes/motormountshift.jpg


BUt as far as using a Jockeyshift lever.....you would have to use a linkage type setup on a smaller scale......which would require a headache and some fabrication and complication.

And as far as that N1 stuff?
I wouldn't.

LDNCLR
01-05-2013, 4:00 PM
I thought the linkage was the difference between FX and FL shifting.....
http://i1270.photobucket.com/albums/jj620/heykidbyrnes/FLshiftertab.jpg
^^^^^^^FL
http://i1270.photobucket.com/albums/jj620/heykidbyrnes/FXshiftlinkage.jpg
^^^^^^^FX

So.......
If you wanted first gear to be "push the shifter forward for first" and "pull back for 2nd, 3rd, and 4th" during acceleration........you could use an FL tab/ear on your ratchet top and use a linkage setup like with a tankshift.
http://i1270.photobucket.com/albums/jj620/heykidbyrnes/motormountshift.jpg


BUt as far as using a Jockeyshift lever.....you would have to use a linkage type setup on a smaller scale......which would require a headache and some fabrication and complication.

And as far as that N1 stuff?
I wouldn't.


the drums are also different. I have one of each. I put an FX drum in my FL lid so that both bikes would hand shift the same.

vaderx11
01-13-2013, 6:10 PM
Yeah I figured there was no way around It. And I agree that N1 is tooooo much for my cheap taste. Appreciate the input

Trinda
01-14-2013, 4:11 PM
And as far as that N1 stuff?
I wouldn't.

just a cost issue, or is there some other reason? I really like the idea of the pattern.

nmaineron
01-14-2013, 4:39 PM
Stock shifting on my 52 Panhead was first back and second,third and forth forward.My 41 Knuckle is just the opposite with first being all the way forward and pulling back for the second,third and forth. Neither one had a ratchet and I don't believe the drums to be different but the linkage at the drum was either facing up or down.

However I had a friend that had a 72 superglide that shifted differently than my 77 superglide and I think the only difference was that his shifter was facing backwards and mine forward.Both machines had ratchet tops.

LDNCLR
01-14-2013, 4:59 PM
The superglides of certain years had the "backwards drum" they are more desirable because you can "slap shift" them when accelerating hard.

Obviously the linkage arrangement is different, but if you examine what happens when you drop the shift lever into 1st on both trans, the drum turns in opposite directions.

If you want to hand shift 1 forward-3 back, you need the (more rare) superglide FX drum

IF you want to hand shift 1 back-3 forward, the FL drum will operate that way.

( this applies if the hand shift handle is bolted directly to the ratchet top with no linkage.....)