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geezer2
12-23-2012, 9:45 PM
Hey guys & gals, I'm 61 and toying with fabbing up a jockey on my 05 Super Glide. I know the plus and minuses of this set up, but what I'm curious about is whether any older guys here run em and if so have you encountered age specific problems with it? Are there any older guys here?:confused:
Just kiddin! Geezer

bobscogin
12-23-2012, 10:05 PM
I'm 63 and haven't ridden a jockey shift in well over 40 years. Don't miss it either. What advantage do you find in it?
Do you have a physical condition that precludes use of a hand clutch?
Bob

geezer2
12-23-2012, 10:17 PM
No advantage, just a change. No problems with the hand clutch. Just wondering if older guys have out grown em or encountered joint pain, knee pain or other maladies with their use.

vetto
12-24-2012, 9:48 AM
No advantage, just a change. No problems with the hand clutch. Just wondering if older guys have out grown em or encountered joint pain, knee pain or other maladies with their use.

I jockey my bike, and at 41 years old, I am only now starting to get creaky and blind :)

with regard to physical pain/difficulty, since I dont have any, I can only guess based on my experience. I think the foot clutch/jockey shift set-up is WAY simpler. The clutch pedal isnt like your pickup truck, it isn't stiff and you shoudnt even have to lift your leg if the pedal is fabricated as such. And the shifter...the jockey handle attached to a baker N1 drum is tits! slapping it around HAS to be easier than a tow operated shifter (again, if we are talking about old age joint pain)

Have you ever foot clutched a bike before?

ran
12-25-2012, 5:05 AM
Jockey shift in my opinion is just as easy to ride with as standard set up. I never intend on going back.

threat357
12-25-2012, 10:27 AM
Jockey shift in my opinion is just as easy to ride with as standard set up. I never intend on going back.

^this
Plus, it's more fun.

Sent from hell

Buster68
12-27-2012, 8:06 AM
How old is "older"? I am 43, and running a jockey shift, and love it. I have run a foot clutch / tank shifter on a previous bike, and actually prefer the full-on, behind the seat, straight off the tranny jockey shift - I find it a more intuitive location to reach and shift.

pj
12-27-2012, 8:29 AM
I am only 35, I like my jockey shift but theres some things to consider. Do you ride in alot of traffic ? Are your reaction times as fast as they should be ? Are you a quick learner ? The jockey can take sometime to get used to so I would practice alot before you have a passenger or ride in heavy traffic.

Branner
12-27-2012, 9:04 AM
44 and ride jockey. I switched my bike over four years ago, only regret is not doing it sooner.

bobscogin
12-27-2012, 8:10 PM
And the shifter...the jockey handle attached to a baker N1 drum is tits!

That's cheating! A real jockey shifter--one that's converted from a tank shift--, doesn't even have detents for the gear positions. What a pain in the ass. No wonder we converted to footshift.:D

Bob

jdizon
12-27-2012, 8:27 PM
Hey guys & gals, I'm 61 and toying with fabbing up a jockey on my 05 Super Glide. I know the plus and minuses of this set up, but what I'm curious about is whether any older guys here run em and if so have you encountered age specific problems with it? Are there any older guys here?:confused:
Just kiddin! Geezer

Do it!! You would look and feel 10 years younger :) be careful tho!

Flashback
12-28-2012, 2:02 AM
I'm 60 and I ride a stretched rigid with a frame mounted seat (no springs) jockey shift and a kicker. I love it. Just depends on how bad you beat yourself up in the last 60 years lol. On a good day I can still ride it 200 miles before my ass goes flat and numb.

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Jetblack
12-28-2012, 2:34 AM
I'm more concerned about sitting on my saggy ol balls; or rolling and pinching a nut in some binding ass jeans leaving a stop, instant sick belly.

My hand shift style with a regular perched, is no clutch on the up shifts; and rpm speed matching it's super smooth. Then just clutch coast for stops, bump into first with my knee or hooking my toe depending on jockey or hand, then throttle out...rinse repeat. Learning rpm's and sounds for your gear matching for speed is my best advice. If you need to gear jam down clutchless, rpm speed matching will be your best friend; hit the wrong gear at the wrong rpm on the down, and the rear can go into a skid along with your underwear.

I haven't ridden one that was foot clutched...but I can imagine it's much easier; the learning curve there, would be to stop trying to change gears with the fucking clutch pedal, or grabbing for a ghost lever for me haha. Some old habits decades in the making are hard to break.

vetto
12-28-2012, 6:52 AM
That's cheating! A real jockey shifter--one that's converted from a tank shift--, doesn't even have detents for the gear positions. What a pain in the ass. No wonder we converted to footshift.:D

Bob

Holy Shit! can you imagine? hit a bump in the road and instantly go from 4th to 2nd! That would be so cool though, fab up a shift gate to mount under the seat and watch the hipsters line up to see the next big thing! LOL!

bobscogin
12-28-2012, 7:38 AM
Holy Shit! can you imagine? hit a bump in the road and instantly go from 4th to 2nd! That would be so cool though, fab up a shift gate to mount under the seat and watch the hipsters line up to see the next big thing! LOL!

Yeah, if they gotta have a special shift drum to put neutral at the bottom, what would they do with a real jockey shifter?!! :D

Bob

bobscogin
12-28-2012, 7:41 AM
I'm 60 and I ride a stretched rigid with a frame mounted seat (no springs) jockey shift and a kicker.

Care to relate your experience with the Led Sled kicker? Haven't seen many.

Bob

heretic530
12-28-2012, 7:42 AM
Yeah, if they gotta have a special shift drum to put neutral at the bottom, what would they do with a real jockey shifter?!! :D

Bob


yeah, but the original gated shifters were 3 speeds and there was a neutral between each gear. They really weren't as difficult to ride as it sounds

geezer2
12-28-2012, 8:46 AM
Thanks for all the input folks. I'm thinking more & more towards doing it. Think I'll mosey out to the garage.... lol Geezer

vetto
12-28-2012, 10:29 AM
Yeah, if they gotta have a special shift drum to put neutral at the bottom, what would they do with a real jockey shifter?!! :D

Bob

Easy there, fella.
After a couple sketchy parking lot events (slow left turn and missing that tiny "half click" into N from first gear) I put that "special drum" miracle drum in. Now I just reach under my ass, slap the shifter all the way down and VIOLA! Neutral! It's the only way to do it when converting a HD 4 or 5 speed tranny from foot to hand.

Are we so stuck up now that there is "real jockey" and "cheater jockey"? :D

bobscogin
12-28-2012, 10:37 AM
Are we so stuck up now that there is "real jockey" and "cheater jockey"? :D

Hey, we're already cynical, can't we be elitist too?;)

Bob

vetto
12-28-2012, 10:45 AM
Hey, we're already cynical, can't we be elitist too?;)

Bob

LOL. What's your setup? It better be a Ratchet top 4--speed with a fab-kevin shifter, a NYC school district door know for a handle, and a dog chain on the clutch rod. anything less isn't real jockey.

Brendden
12-28-2012, 11:31 AM
I'd rock it.

JC
12-28-2012, 5:57 PM
I'm 43 and won't go back. It's been this way for 16 yrs now. Mine is a right foot clutch. Shifter is under my left butt cheek, brakes in my hands. To me it's a free-er way to ride.

Flashback
12-31-2012, 3:49 AM
Care to relate your experience with the Led Sled kicker? Haven't seen many.

Bob

Led-Sled built a nice conversion. It's solid and well made. If you can do basic engine work and minor fabrication you got about a 4 to 5 hour job that includes moving the brake cylinder and shortening / extending the rod. You do need a press to remove and replace the main shaft of the transmission. It's spendy but in my case I wanted to get the bike as close as I could to what I built in the late 60's early 70's so it was worth the cost. Others will have to weigh whether the benefit justifies the cost.

Flash

Flatheadsoup
01-02-2013, 10:06 AM
I'm 63 and my bobber is jockey shift and my 58 pan build is a six speed jockey shift. Don't be a pussy with a clutch in your hand be badass with a stick in your hand, just sayin. LOL.