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boogieman
08-10-2009, 4:11 PM
Let me start by saying, I am no master, just somebody who enjoys messing with pinstriping. I am not that good, but get better each time I do it.

Pinstriping is a cheap and fun hobby. It takes very little to start, but it is one of those things that takes a long time to MASTER. Even if you are like me and not that great, it's a really fun stress reliever. It's fun for anyone and you really can see your skill build as you go.

If you are interested, I'll tell ya what to do:

Buy a striping brush (macs are good for around $10-15). I prefer an excalibur ($18 or so) I like them because the bristles are shorter. A 00 or 000 works good for most stuff. Buy a couple cans of one shot paint (about $10-16 depending on color). Get a can of low odor mineral spirits at the hardware store ($5 or something).

Also, if you look on the one shot paint web site, they have a dealer locator (here (http://www.1shot.com/distributors.html)). Chances are, if they sell one shot they will have pinstripe brushes too. Mack has a dealer locater (here (http://www.mackbrush.com/distributors2.htm)). Excalibur site: (here (http://www.xcaliberart.com/pinstriping.html))

Get a piece of glass and do this: http://sketchkult.com//phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=473

Read up, but don't let all the information overload you, remember, it's basically putting paint on a brush and dragging it across a surface, it's not rocket science.

This is the best thread for beginners: http://www.sketchkult.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=1110

here: http://www.sketchkult.com/phpBB/viewforum.php?f=21

and here: http://sketchkult.ning.com/forum/categories/2286441:Category:27/listForCategory

YouTube has some videos, or you can buy how to videos or books.

Really, if you have any inclination to do it, do it! It's great fun and you can get started for $30 or so.

Feel free to post pics or more info! Hope this helps!

If you like the thread don't forget to rate it (yellow box at top of post). Thanks!

Magickman
08-10-2009, 4:47 PM
Excellent, to the point write up.

My question: Do you draw or have any current talent in drawing straight lines?

I am no artist, about the only thing I can draw is a beer.

mjasen10
08-10-2009, 6:16 PM
thanks for the write up man, i just posted on another thread earlier today that i was wanting to learn how to do this. i think ya gave me the kick in the ass to give it a go!

superflysnow
08-10-2009, 7:04 PM
rad thanks for posting! I have always wanted to put together a little kit and this is a great place to start!

kingdeadbeat
08-11-2009, 1:22 AM
Lets see some of your lines man!!! You posted the dang thread, and won't give us any eye candy??? NOT FAIR!!! I want to see what kinda lines cats are layin these days!!! lollmaorofl!!!

boogieman
08-11-2009, 9:37 AM
Lets see some of your lines man!!! You posted the dang thread, and won't give us any eye candy??? NOT FAIR!!! I want to see what kinda lines cats are layin these days!!! lollmaorofl!!!

I'll see if I have any around... I did a tank but it is at my father in law's house. Mostly I mess around on junk stuff still or a piece of glass that gets scraped off with a razor blade. Anyway, I'll see if I can find anything.

Oh yeah, my lines are straight for about a foot or so, and my stuff looks real good from 30 ft away! :) HAHA!

JessicaWarren
08-11-2009, 10:52 AM
Thanks for the tips

TroyFab
08-11-2009, 9:41 PM
Thanks for posting this!

trichardson21
08-12-2009, 7:31 AM
Sweet startup tips. All the pinstriping ive done is with a sharpie, and its never even, this will be my wintertime side project. I guess poor pinstriping with a sharpie is just ... shitstriping?

got556
08-17-2011, 12:35 AM
I know I'm bringing this back from the dead, but this is a really informative thread. Thank you.

drseiss
08-17-2011, 4:08 AM
Glass is easily one of the hardest things to stripe on, and that's why it's great to practice on. It's got a tricky feel to it, much more slippery than painted metal. Two suggestions if you want to get good: Practice straight lines. They are by far the hardest thing to do. And the other thing would be to study the composition of the designs done by the masters. Look at enough good work and you'll see certain elements that repeat themselves, like the lack of open ended lines, the flow of curves, and the importance of negative space.

SuperP
08-17-2011, 4:45 AM
Good write-up. There is also alot of inspiration on Pinheadlounge.com. If you are going to use glass, another idea is to buy some of those cheap decals, that look like pinstriping (ebay, autozone) and put then on the back of the glass. Use them to trace and practice. Also, you can buy 1/8in masking tape or vynil pinstripe, put in on the glass in different patterns and curves. For glass, I would not recommend thining the 1shot. Right out of the can will be thick enough because the glass is so slick. Look for other surfaces to stripe on also, you all will see how the paint reacts differently and how to thin it.

Great little hobby.

vnygra
08-17-2011, 7:25 AM
Two of the best tips I ever got as far as designs,
Always do the left side first, (doing right first seems natural)

And never end a line by itself!

ltuck
08-17-2011, 6:35 PM
Ive gotta get back at it. I quit striping when i started building my bike about a year ago. As already mentioned start on the left unless youre left handed, then youll wipe all your paint away...oh, and open ended lines suck!

drseiss
08-17-2011, 8:22 PM
Good to see there's others that hate open ended lines. That shit looks weak.

gyro
09-18-2011, 10:44 AM
this is a great thread thnks for the links. I just got a few brushes and some paints so hopefully I will have some pics to add later

gyro
09-18-2011, 11:24 AM
Already got my first question. Best way to clean and store your brushes when your done? what do you do with them to keep them nice?

53rigid
09-18-2011, 12:39 PM
One thing to search for when beginning is the sheet called 100 strokes. It is boring as hell to do, but you have to master the beginning lines before you just take off and stripe a sporty tank or a 50's merc. I got pretty good at pulling lines and such, but my hands hurt like hell from holding the brush. And oh, not to mention the fact that I have no artistic talent whatsoever, so i could not design a fucking thing.

Saltytonk
09-18-2011, 2:54 PM
Already got my first question. Best way to clean and store your brushes when your done? what do you do with them to keep them nice?

After you clean em get ya some brush oil. put a few drops on ur pallett and drag ur brush thru it and load it with oil same as u would paint. then put em in a brush box of some kind.

ltuck
09-18-2011, 3:20 PM
I just clean the brush with mineral spirits, then cover it in 3n1 oil. Just remember to clean the oil out good so it wont affect your paint

ziganmarine
09-18-2011, 3:33 PM
for practice designs I just googled pin striping in images and printed them out. I'd lay them under a piece of glass and go at it. I have a few pages of S curves, straight lines. C curves and some other basics. pull a bunch of each of those lines and then pull some more, when youre done pulling them do it again. the more you do the better you become. its all about practice practice practice.

gyro
09-18-2011, 6:34 PM
After you clean em get ya some brush oil. put a few drops on ur pallett and drag ur brush thru it and load it with oil same as u would paint. then put em in a brush box of some kind.

you just put'em in a box? Don't you worry about the bristles getting all bent and mangled?

Saltytonk
09-18-2011, 6:42 PM
you just put'em in a box? Don't you worry about the bristles getting all bent and mangled?


they make brush boxes with springs in em to hold them in there straight.

vnygra
09-18-2011, 7:27 PM
I just lay mine down in a box, pull em out and clean em again to get the oil off. Every month or so I clean them in laquer thinner , to get some dried paint out up by the handle.

ghostshadow
09-18-2011, 7:52 PM
Wow, it's like you guys read my mind. I've been practicing on getting better and finding my place in striping. I was actually going to search to see if there was any threads and this one was right on top :P -

Thanks for the links and tips so far! and thanks to whomever did the necro bump.

gyro
09-18-2011, 8:06 PM
they make brush boxes with springs in em to hold them in there straight.

cool ok I did some searching around and saw some easy enough to make something real quick. thanks.
I was gonna start practicing pulling some straight and curved lines tonight but got caught up watching football so maybe tomorrow.

gyro
09-24-2011, 1:40 PM
ok so its not pinstriping but I got two airbrushes with the pinstriping stuff so I spent a few minutes playing with the airbrush this morning trying to figure out how to use it. this is what I got first time trying any of this.
<a href="http://s1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff398/d5warrior/paint/?action=view&amp;current=airbrush5.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff398/d5warrior/paint/airbrush5.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

<a href="http://s1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff398/d5warrior/paint/?action=view&amp;current=airbrush4.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff398/d5warrior/paint/airbrush4.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

<a href="http://s1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff398/d5warrior/paint/?action=view&amp;current=airbrush3.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff398/d5warrior/paint/airbrush3.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

<a href="http://s1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff398/d5warrior/paint/?action=view&amp;current=airbrush2.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff398/d5warrior/paint/airbrush2.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

<a href="http://s1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff398/d5warrior/paint/?action=view&amp;current=1.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff398/d5warrior/paint/1.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

gyro
09-24-2011, 1:41 PM
now how do you clean a damn airbrush?

gyro
09-24-2011, 1:54 PM
oh yeah I plan on trying my hand at pinstriping tonight so I'll post some pics of how that goes later.

gyro
09-24-2011, 8:13 PM
Ok so I tried pinstriping and I suck at it. I did learn some stuff though.
1: just putting tape on the corners of a piece of glass is not enough to keep you from slicing your finger open.
2: diferent brushes really make a difference
3: different paint same as above.
4:Straight lines are pretty hard
5:curved lines are stupid
6: I can't do anything without making a mess.
<a href="http://s1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff398/d5warrior/paint/?action=view&amp;current=pinstripes.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff398/d5warrior/paint/pinstripes.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

gyro
09-24-2011, 8:15 PM
Oh yeah and watch where your fingers go when there is more than one stripe on something.

Saltytonk
09-24-2011, 8:35 PM
now how do you clean a damn airbrush?



I use Createx airbrush cleaner. Put some in the bowl , hold a rag over the tip and pull the trigger. Should have it bubble back into the bowl. Then spray the cleaner thru the gun . then some water thru it . Get ya some cleaning brushes for the stubborn dried stuff. If ya dont get it clean , be prepared to take the gun apart next time you use it. :D

gyro
09-25-2011, 8:36 PM
used a different color paint tonight and the grey is much easier to use that the orange for some reason. Still cant do curves thinking I might go buy a mack brush and see if that makes a diference. no pics tonight its pretty much the same as last night just grey instead of orange.

spooner
09-26-2011, 9:32 AM
used a different color paint tonight and the grey is much easier to use that the orange for some reason. Still cant do curves thinking I might go buy a mack brush and see if that makes a diference. no pics tonight its pretty much the same as last night just grey instead of orange.

For curves, you need to lift the brush up higher on to the tip. If you are using a dagger brush, you also have to rotate the brush handle between your thumb and fingers as you make the curve. kinda like patting your head and scratching you stomach at the same time :)
I like 000 Excaliber brushes.

gyro
09-26-2011, 12:14 PM
Yeah two brushes I have tried are the kustom kolor 00 and 000 I think or mabey 0 and 00. But I think I'm gonna go pick up a Mack 00 and see if that makes a difference.

SuperP
09-28-2011, 5:58 AM
If you are planning on doing lots of curves, try a Kafka scrolling brush. They are a little harder to do long straight lines, but make curves easy. I have a Mack 00 and 000 when I am doing longer, straighter stuff. Depending on the project, you can use both brushes to get it done.

BullyGuns
09-28-2011, 1:52 PM
Yeah two brushes I have tried are the kustom kolor 00 and 000 I think or mabey 0 and 00. But I think I'm gonna go pick up a Mack 00 and see if that makes a difference.

Any brush with a metal ferrule and flats on the handle is more meant for long, straight lines. If I remember right, that's how the Kustom Shop stuff is. Definitely try a Kafka scroller or an Xcaliber. I have also tried the Mack Virus scroller and that's good too for curves and turns. Also, look for a Mack Blue Wrap 000. My striping sucks, but that and the Kafka have made a world of difference for me.

Good luck.

C

gyro
09-28-2011, 6:03 PM
Any brush with a metal ferrule and flats on the handle is more meant for long, straight lines. If I remember right, that's how the Kustom Shop stuff is. Definitely try a Kafka scroller or an Xcaliber. I have also tried the Mack Virus scroller and that's good too for curves and turns. Also, look for a Mack Blue Wrap 000. My striping sucks, but that and the Kafka have made a world of difference for me.

Good luck.

C

cool thanks for the advice. Im waiting for payday then I'll see if my wife is gonna let me have some of my paycheck and go get a new brush or two. and a few boxes so I can mail a beverage to a few people that I promised a long time ago.

trnrover
09-28-2011, 6:53 PM
What about these lil boogers.....

http://www.eastwood.com/beugler-deluxe-pinstriping-kit.html

and in action

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thelowlife
09-28-2011, 10:45 PM
Begulars are great if you have a big area to stripe and need to do it quickly. I know the purist will cry and say its not striping. If you just want to do a flame job one time then get a Begular and be done with it.

As for starting on glass.. to this day I can't do a set of consistent lines on glass.. if you can get some panels from vechiles. Go to a wreckers and get a door skin practice on that, old car hoods. Its different painting on that type of surface. You can cut the panels to make them more manageable.

Try different curves as well.. I give major props to the guys that stripe helmets.. its one thing pulling a good line but doing it on a curve like that isn't easy.

If your fingers are chattering while pulling lines use a little bit of baby powder and it'll smooth that pull out.

gyro
10-08-2011, 5:05 PM
Here we go I went and got a new brush. Topher that brush you sent me I had the same problem with so I went and got a mack and tried it out tonight. here are the results
<a href="http://s1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff398/d5warrior/paint/?action=view&amp;current=striping4.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff398/d5warrior/paint/striping4.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

<a href="http://s1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff398/d5warrior/paint/?action=view&amp;current=striping3.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff398/d5warrior/paint/striping3.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

I know its all crooked I was just trying to do curved lines and this was my first time getting something decent. I am gonna keep trying with this mack and then once I get better try the other brushes and see if I can use them or not.

gyro
10-08-2011, 5:09 PM
<a href="http://s1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff398/d5warrior/paint/?action=view&amp;current=striping2.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff398/d5warrior/paint/striping2.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>
so that is the brush I am using now.

<a href="http://s1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff398/d5warrior/paint/?action=view&amp;current=striping5.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff398/d5warrior/paint/striping5.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>
this is the paint I got and I got a bunch of colors

this is the reducer I got
<a href="http://s1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff398/d5warrior/paint/?action=view&amp;current=striping1.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff398/d5warrior/paint/striping1.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

So the stuff on the right works great the other stuff is some shit the dude at the store convinced me to buy he said it is the best stuf to use cause it is not harmful and is odorless. that shit sucks it does nothing to the paint at all. So my question is if I buy one shot reducer will it work well with this paint or do I need to stick to the kustom shop stuff?

SuperP
10-08-2011, 5:23 PM
Gyro- you are doing the right thing..keep it up. Glass is probably the hardest surface to stripe on consistently IMO because it is sooo slick. You do not want to reduce the paint for glass, in fact it may stripe better when it starts to thicken up.

Try some different surfaces, they all have a different drag on the brush. More drag on the brush tends to smooth out a shaky hand.

You can print out some stripe examples and lay them under the glass to trace. Or sketch them out on another surface to stripe over. I have used some vinyl decal pinstripes that I found online and printed out the jpegs to practice because they are black and white.

gyro
10-08-2011, 5:34 PM
You can print out some stripe examples and lay them under the glass to trace. Or sketch them out on another surface to stripe over. I have used some vinyl decal pinstripes that I found online and printed out the jpegs to practice because they are black and white.

yeah that is the plan I just want to get the feel for using the brush and get comfortable turning lines before I get to complicated. Crawl before walk.

gyro
10-08-2011, 8:34 PM
heres take two I think it looks pretty good but I'm drunk now so there is no telling

<a href="http://s1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff398/d5warrior/paint/?action=view&amp;current=striping6.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff398/d5warrior/paint/striping6.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

vnygra
10-08-2011, 11:10 PM
Alright. I'm no pro but have been striping as a hobby for a few years. By looking at your lines, your putting way too much of whatever reducer your using. I only use mineral spirits to reduce, and not much at all. I only dip the brush in it before palleting. It's one of those things where half the people will say don't use mineral spirits, the othe half will swear by em. Works for me and is cheap. A tip for designs, assuming your right handed, do the lines on the left first. Then you have a clear view of what you've already done when you do the right side. And also only do one line at a time. Two at the most or it will get harder to stay The same on both sides. Like everyone's said, it takes time a year ago I would do some striping and think it was badass. If I look back on those, it looks aweful now. It is a true art, you could do it for 30 years, and you'll still be getting better every time. I've seen some amazing pinstripers work and there are flaws in it. but it's 1000 times better than any Fuckin decal!

gyro
10-09-2011, 12:19 AM
I tried it without thinning it out at all and it was to thick so I tried with less of the reducer shit I'll try again tomorrow while i'm soberer and see what happens. Also I got some metel in the garage I am gonna try on metal too just to compare it to the glass. that can on the left is mineral spirits and it sucks it didn't do anything to the paint at all. So thatt why I was asking about the diference between the one shot paint and that kustom shop paint I am using.

SuperP
10-09-2011, 6:00 AM
I have used Kustom Shop and 1 shot paints. The KS worked well for a while but seems to have a shorter shelf life. It started to get gummier in the can. Then, when I palletted it with reducer it would fight me and Try to get gummy every 10 minutes.

Spade115
10-25-2011, 10:08 PM
Thought I would bump this up I need to print out the information

UNKLian
10-26-2011, 3:17 PM
I would recommend 1-Shot, or Ronan, to start with.
Much more forgiving.

Kustomshit dries a LOT faster.
Also harder on brushes.
You have to use their Reducer, the stuff that smells like Rocket Fuel.
I can't handle the fumes off their stuff.:mad:

gyro
10-26-2011, 3:25 PM
I would recommend 1-Shot, or Ronan, to start with.
Much more forgiving.

Kustomshit dries a LOT faster.
Also harder on brushes.
You have to use their Reducer, the stuff that smells like Rocket Fuel.
I can't handle the fumes off their stuff.:mad:

that makes since then cause I can't seem to get the paint right and its like I am constantly reloading the brush and always trying to get the mixture right and the other mineral spirits wont do shit to that paint.

BullyGuns
10-26-2011, 8:39 PM
You need to learn your paints. Not trying to be a dick, but you are using incompatible materials...

You are using, with the Kustom Shop stuff a striping paint that was developed to be compatible with today's clearcoats. Meaning, you can put clear ON TOP of it with little fear of an adverse reaction. The KS stuff is not gonna work with mineral spirits. Not at all. You need to use their reducer especially if you go beyond practice. Also, the KS will not hold up on it's own. Left on top of the clear coat, it will fail and fall off. I believe if you add a hardener to it, it will work but that's not what this stuff was developed for.

If you use 1-Shot, you use the mineral spirits to thin/reduce the paint. Works like a champ. The 1-Shot can and often does, have adverse reactions when today's clears are sprayed on top. It is designed to go on top of the clear coat. It holds on much better. It also has a better flow and is easier to work with. The Gamsol is REALLY nice stuff, maybe a little too classy for pinstriping. It's more of a fine art thing. Hardware store, Five Star stuff works just fine for most stripers I know. Burn the Gamsol up and then start saving money.

Trust me, striping is really hard. I have recently met someone that is willing to teach me some stuff. I'm jazzed. He's an old timer and has been painting for as long as I'm alive and I am really looking forward to spending a little time with him and soaking up what he is willing to teach.

Good luck. That brush doesn't work, shoot it back to me. Or, keep it for a rainy day.

C

gyro
10-26-2011, 9:09 PM
yeah some of the stripes I posted the other day was done with it. I just need to slow down and try not to get ahead of myself. It make real fine lines compared to the 0 Mack brush I got. Thanks for the paint advice I think I am gonna go grab a can of 1shot to practice with then. That makes a whole lot more sense now I have always heard that 1 shot gets ruined if clearcoated. thats cool that you said something cause I would have gotten decent enough and put some stripes on something and left it alone and been upset when it got fucked up first time it rains or something. and yeah about the gamisol stuff I was at some fancy art store downtown and the crazy hippy dude working there told me that that stuff was the way to go and its safe I guess he didnt know about the kustom shop paint stuff. Thanks for the advice I'll keep that in mind when I get more into it. I am going out of town tomorrow till thanksgiving playing G.I. Joe in the swamp so I wont be able to play for a while.

SELLERSSALVAGE
01-20-2012, 11:59 AM
wow thanks for the info i just drove around yesterday looking for a mac brush and a can of paint . i should have looked here befor i went

SELLERSSALVAGE
01-20-2012, 1:18 PM
what dose hardener reducer do?

DailyRider
01-21-2012, 3:40 AM
1Shot can be cleared over by adding either 1shot hardener (made by 1shot and probably no found locally) or the hardener/activator from the clear you will be using. I always use Dixie cups for my paint...if ur cup is about 1/4 full you add maybe 6-10 drops of the hardener. The paint will start to setup much faster so u may find u will neeneedd to palette ur brush more often. Or if your stripes have been on for over 2-3 weeks it will be fully cured so there would be no need to add hardener.....all this said there is no guarantees that the striping won't lift when clearing. It will depend alot on ur prep work. Oh and by doing super light dust coats of clear instead of hosing it on will help ur odds of success.

miggidy85
01-21-2012, 6:13 PM
I use Createx airbrush cleaner. Put some in the bowl , hold a rag over the tip and pull the trigger. Should have it bubble back into the bowl. Then spray the cleaner thru the gun . then some water thru it . Get ya some cleaning brushes for the stubborn dried stuff. If ya dont get it clean , be prepared to take the gun apart next time you use it. :D

use the cheap dollar store window cleaner. works just as well, and way cheaper for a ton more of it.

gyro
01-21-2012, 7:26 PM
fuck I planned on going out to the garage today and putting stripes on everything, I got drunk instead.

oh well Im a drunk loser.. maybe tommorow

SELLERSSALVAGE
01-21-2012, 8:48 PM
nevermind

src1981
01-22-2012, 11:00 AM
this shit lit a fire under my ass.....i was out late last night pulling lines, and i still suck.

src1981
01-22-2012, 11:08 AM
let's see some work ladies.....

Spade115
01-08-2014, 1:23 PM
Wanted to push this back up and ADD

I got my first brush (Mack Series 20, 00) some paint already (Lil Roth - Sacramento Vintage Ford Purple) and printed out a few sheets, I have yet to cut the stray hairs in the brush yet and have yet to buy mineral spirits because I had a question on this.

I googled Mineral Spirits saw walmart has it but the reviews say it dosnt work on cleaning the brush. and the one that said it did apparently used the whole qrt bottle.

I wanted to see what brand was reccomended to use. I also have WD40, 3n1, and some royal purple oil from my bike that I could use to clean before, Should I just use the 3n1 or is there a better oil to clean it.

Thanks

AROK
01-08-2014, 11:49 PM
Wanted to push this back up and ADD

I got my first brush (Mack Series 20, 00) some paint already (Lil Roth - Sacramento Vintage Ford Purple) and printed out a few sheets, I have yet to cut the stray hairs in the brush yet and have yet to buy mineral spirits because I had a question on this.

I googled Mineral Spirits saw walmart has it but the reviews say it dosnt work on cleaning the brush. and the one that said it did apparently used the whole qrt bottle.

I wanted to see what brand was reccomended to use. I also have WD40, 3n1, and some royal purple oil from my bike that I could use to clean before, Should I just use the 3n1 or is there a better oil to clean it.

Thanks

Google "Steve Kafka" on YouTube, he's the man

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When I was pulling a bunch of lines, I used to suspend my brush in paint thinner and the paint/pigment would sort of drop out of the brush. The majority of the paint would be removed during this process, then I would swirl it around in a new, clean jar of paint thinner, and then treat the hairs of the brush with olive oil.

AROK
01-08-2014, 11:50 PM
Also I should mention I did the paint thinner trick with 1 Shot, I don't know anything about the Roth paints, but I imagine it will work the same.

Spade115
01-09-2014, 8:27 AM
Thanks :D

Just put the video to download so i can watch it at home when i start fiddling with mine, :/ I Read the thread last night from my phone (Video didnt come up) But youtubed and was able to watch him use a "Grid" to pinstripe, (I like the idea a lot) And found out about the stabler chrome pencil he uses (Completely forgot the name) I get out early tomorrow so going to Bville to get a can or two of one shot and walmart has "mineral spirits" so getting that,

Thanks again

Spade115
01-15-2014, 8:35 AM
Well I took some pics and this is my 3rd day of practice (Started Sat, Skipped monday :/)

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd103/Spade115/3-3.jpg

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd103/Spade115/3-2.jpg

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http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd103/Spade115/3-5.jpg

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd103/Spade115/3-4.jpg

Useing Lil Roth "Sacramento Vintage Ford Purple"

maybelene
01-17-2014, 10:36 AM
Looks just like most of us when we start. One Shot, mineral spirits and Mack swords are pretty forgiving. Just keep practicing. try rolling your brush between thumb and forefinger when painting curves and go slower on the curves, faster on straight lines. Find a design you like and try to copy it and really concentrate while you pull the line. Music seems to put me in focus too. Keep working at it and it will come to you but like someone else said, we're never finished learning.

JohnnyVonGriz
07-16-2014, 8:22 PM
Hey all, aspiring pinstriper here, too. I recently started a website to help promote pinstripers and sign painters. Check it out and post your stuff. (It's free)

www.1ShotHotShots.com (http://www.1shothotshots.com)

rjwatters38
07-17-2014, 2:05 AM
Hey all, aspiring pinstriper here, too. I recently started a website to help promote pinstripers and sign painters. Check it out and post your stuff. (It's free)

www.1ShotHotShots.com (http://www.1shothotshots.com)

Thats pretty rad! I'll have to start an account there. i just recently picked up lettering and pinstriping brushes and some paint and some reducer (dude at the shop said it works better than thinner or mineral oil, but after watching the kafka video i dont know? It's rust-oleum specialty reducer for spraying i think)

I've been meaning to get some practice but have been backwards on so much shit plus looking for some work on top is fucking up my time.

AusAndrew
07-17-2014, 3:55 AM
That website's a great idea! I only had a few cracks at it and was no good but a forum like that would really keep people motivated to keep at it.

UNKLian
07-17-2014, 9:07 PM
This might help some people:
http://www.flyingeyeballs.net/uploads/How_To_Hold_A_Brush.pdf

UNKLian
07-17-2014, 9:09 PM
Old piece of mine:
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UNKLian
07-17-2014, 9:17 PM
Wanted to push this back up and ADD

I got ... some paint already (Lil Roth - Sacramento Vintage Ford Purple) ....

Thanks


Roth paint works the same as 1-Shot.
I suspect that is who actually makes it.

Mineral Spirits works fine for cleaning.
NOT Lacquer Thinner.

I use Neatsfoot oil for preserving my brushes.
Mineral Oil is good.
Any oil that doesn't dry(polymerize) is fine.

Langmire
12-09-2014, 1:48 PM
Here's a couple of my better ones. Just started messin with this stuff. I found using a piece of graph paper under the glass help keep shit lined up.....sorta
Just signed up here, so forgive me if i fuck up this picture loading business.
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chetmotox
12-09-2014, 3:15 PM
I'm glad I read through all this. I actually just bought a brush (http://www.speedwaymotors.com/Standard-Pinstriping-Brush,9830.html) and got a starter kit of 1 Shot paints (white, black, blue, red, and yellow). I've played with airbrushes, rattle cans, paint guns and etc and also done a lot of watercolor paintings so I thought, why not try pinstriping. I've always love the look of good solid lines so figured why not. Thanks for some of the tips guys, I appreciate it. If I do anything decent I'll post up some pics!

OleDirtyDoc
12-09-2014, 5:32 PM
Good thread. Gonna start soon myself.

Wolfie
12-15-2014, 6:55 PM
...."Von Dutch lives forever !!!!!"..... *wink*

Hay Doc...if ya make it to the midwinter dinner thing...I might have a present for ya....

http://www.ospaint.com/wp-content/uploads/IMG-1443-image.jpg

You guys DO know what the "Flying Eyeball" signifies, yes ?

Wolfie
12-15-2014, 6:57 PM
According to Von Dutch, the flying eyeball originated with the Macedonian and Egyptian cultures about 5000 years ago. It was a symbol meaning "the eye in the sky knows all and sees all", or something like that. Dutch got a hold of this symbol and modified it into the flyin'eyeball we know of today. He always believed in reincarnation, and the eyeball, somehow, was tied to that.There have been numerous "incarnations" of this design over the years.

chetmotox
12-16-2014, 3:02 PM
Finally got my 1 Shot paints and so I broke out the brush and a few small test pieces and began playin'. Its fun. Never done this before so something new. I noticed I have difficulty mirroring my designs (that's why the one on the tin is an unsymmetrical design) and I'm not sure, but my brush seems a touch long for some of the lines I was attempting and the tail would drag out occasionally. I can lay down a fairly nice straight line though so that's cool. All the designs are just freehand off the top of my head. Didn't really have a plan with any of them, just started painting. Need to also work on keeping the lines uniformly thick and also ending them cleaner but for the first attempt I'm pretty pleased.

http://i1273.photobucket.com/albums/y417/chetmotox/WP_20141215_005_zps1e9146ac.jpg (http://s1273.photobucket.com/user/chetmotox/media/WP_20141215_005_zps1e9146ac.jpg.html)
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10can
12-17-2014, 12:19 PM
I was poking around the site and saw this thread. I thought I would share some things I have learned about pinstriping.
After talking to some true masters, it became clear that almost all of them use MACK 10 series brushes (blue wraps)
When you start out don't worry about trimming the brush too much, just trim up the stray hairs off the tip.
Use low odor mineral spirits, I use tuna cans to work out of, when I am done I pour the mineral spirits in a pickle jar. When you come back the next day the pigment will have settled to the bottom and all of the mineral spirits on top is good to use, it will have a yellow color, and don't get to vigorous with your pickle jar because you can stir up your pigment.
I use mineral oil to "preserve" my brushes. You can find mineral oil at most dollar stores, next to the tums and pepto.
When you clean your brushes, used your hands. Work the pigment out of heal of the brush (up by the handle) and then oil your brush. Its also a good idea to let your brushes set in a little oil. If you see color come out of the brush when you oil it, you need to clean it more. !do not assume the oil will keep the paint from hardening! it won't.

Spade115
12-17-2014, 3:42 PM
I completely stopped trying, Hell The RC Car I bought at the same time, Hasnt been fired also o.0

I need to start practicing :/

Wolfie
12-17-2014, 7:32 PM
Not fer nuthin...what ya clean yer brushes in depends on what media you use to paint...no ?....yes yes yes...most use enamels....but when painting on a laquered piece, you use laquer to stripe...no ?...requires laquer thinner then to clean....Ive always kept my brushes in Turpentine, then washed it out before painting with mineral spirits (wood alcohol)....vodka works too in a pinch....I like the turpentine because its less viscous than mineral oil...and its what my dad used since the 30's....

Northup87
12-23-2014, 1:02 PM
10 can is using the Mineral oil for long storage of the brushes, where its days in between painting. This keeps the hairs fresh and stops the ends from splitting. You obviously need to clean them with mineral spirits before beginning to paint.

Terminator
02-21-2017, 9:37 AM
bumping this thread back to life, a lot of good advice...ive recently started and curious what size brush most use when starting out?

image1
02-21-2017, 1:59 PM
i use 00 primarily, occasionally will step up or down a size, but i'd say 85% of what i do is 00 (but i also prefer big bold lines...)

Aminus
04-16-2017, 6:14 AM
I started about 3 years ago got going and doing well not spectacular but it was good work for a new person with no art skills. Then I stopped for about a year and a half. My dad passed away and I lost interest for a lot of things and stopped pinstriping. I picked a brush back up this past fall and started going hard at it.

I am learning techniques and designs but still need some motivation I feel like I should be doing better. My lines are inconsistent at times I also get "writers block" and wind up doing the same thing over and over.

I was told it might help if I sketch my design out first with a pencil and I could make changes if I need to before I paint. I do a lot of my practice on Christmas ornaments. If they come out good I can give them away or if it's junk I'm not out much money. I get bored practicing on plexiglass over and over but will still do that from time to time.

Maybe this thread will give me some motivation because at times I want to give up striping

Aminus
05-14-2017, 7:02 PM
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hillcat
05-15-2017, 7:14 AM
Took the trouble of logging in to say those Christmas ornaments are excellent!
Thanks for pics

Aminus
05-15-2017, 11:11 AM
Thank you I appreciate the compliment I don't think I'm that good so for someone that's not related to me to say they like them
It means a lot

colorspot45
08-16-2017, 3:11 PM
Quick question ive been using spare car paint and reduceing it with acitone nail polish remover. I just read you can use rustoleum oilbased pints of paint... now my question is what can i use as a reducer?

image1
08-17-2017, 9:04 AM
mineral spirits.

Tbt87
11-18-2017, 11:42 PM
79964. Decided to try and learn got all my stuff together and got this out for a first try not great but it's a start any tips would be appreciated tjanks