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Pendulum
04-09-2012, 11:28 AM
Has anyone clear coated over light surface rust without removing the rust? I like the look but don't want it to get any worse. It's on a steel tank.

TemeculaTerry
04-09-2012, 12:32 PM
Can't, it won't work - rust is ALIVE brahahaha...

moespeeds
04-09-2012, 12:36 PM
Yeah you gotta neutralize it first or it'll just keep eating up the clear.

BuddhahoodVato
04-09-2012, 1:35 PM
Look into Permalac

UncleMonkey
04-09-2012, 3:23 PM
Rest never sleeps.

Pendulum
04-09-2012, 4:50 PM
Look into Permalac

Thanks. Their website doesn't saw whether it'll do what I want to do, but I'll give them a call.

BuddhahoodVato
04-09-2012, 4:54 PM
I treated my copper plating about a year ago and the copper still hasn't turned green

Pendulum
04-09-2012, 6:29 PM
I treated my copper plating about a year ago and the copper still hasn't turned green

I'm not worried about new rust forming. I'm worried about clearcoating over the rust that's currently there.


I talked to a guy here at work who's in to hot rods, mini trucks, and old VWs. I figured somewhere along the line he'd have heard or learned something that would help me out. Here's what he said:

Clean w/ lacquer thinner
Clean again w/ wax n grease remover
tack cloth the hell out of it
Spray w/ clear. Make sure to use some fish eye remover in the clear.

I'll give that route a try. In the mean time, I'm gonna put a light coat of oil on it and wrap it w/ saran wrap. I'll run my other tank that's already painted until I've got the coin to get this rusty tank all done up.

JMFNC
04-09-2012, 6:47 PM
I think your biggest problem with painting over rust is adhesion. Cleaning it like you are planning might help it last longer but eventually the paint will lift. But...you might be ready for fancy paint by then....

bigdaddy
04-09-2012, 6:49 PM
just spray it with wd40...often.

Pendulum
04-09-2012, 6:51 PM
I think your biggest problem with painting over rust is adhesion. Cleaning it like you are planning might help it last longer but eventually the paint will lift. But...you might be ready for fancy paint by then....

I plan to incorporate the rust into the paint scheme. If it works, I think it'll look awesome. If not, then I'm out the cost of paint and my time. I MAY have a buddy do the actual painting. He owns a shop and does some stellar work, plus he owes me for a couple of photo shoots I did for him. If he offers me a good enough price, I'll let him spray the tank. If not, I'll do it myself.

Revelator
04-09-2012, 9:15 PM
just spray it with wd40...often.

Yup.

or Gibbs.

livingdeadmc
04-09-2012, 10:48 PM
http://img.tapatalk.com/6c448f9f-bb82-6a97.jpg
Clear over rust...worked fine.

JMFNC
04-10-2012, 11:52 AM
http://img.tapatalk.com/6c448f9f-bb82-6a97.jpg
Clear over rust...worked fine.

The real question is how long you've had paint over rust? There's no question in my mind that eventually you will have problems. But like I said to the other guy, you could be ready to change it up before you do. Rust never stops growing and paint doesn't stick to dirt. Of course, that's what por-15 and the like are for but that wouldn't achieve the raw look.

JBiorn
04-10-2012, 12:52 PM
http://www.toppsproducts.com/ra04.cfm

I have used this for many miles of pipe and structural repaint work. GREAT stuff, man.

livingdeadmc
04-10-2012, 2:24 PM
The real question is how long you've had paint over rust? There's no question in my mind that eventually you will have problems. But like I said to the other guy, you could be ready to change it up before you do. Rust never stops growing and paint doesn't stick to dirt. Of course, that's what por-15 and the like are for but that wouldn't achieve the raw look.

Been this way for a couple years...still looks the same as day one...

Pendulum
04-10-2012, 2:50 PM
Been this way for a couple years...still looks the same as day one...

Thanks. Did you do anything special before you started spraying?

livingdeadmc
04-10-2012, 3:13 PM
Hit it with a wire brush to knock the loose shit off...thats it.

Pendulum
04-10-2012, 4:51 PM
Hit it with a wire brush to knock the loose shit off...thats it.

Awesome. Thanks for the real world advice.

Comb2
04-10-2012, 8:17 PM
If you want to keep the real rust look just hit with wd40 like mentioned
Let it get how you want then keep it oiled up

http://i793.photobucket.com/albums/yy216/COMB2/084b97f4.jpg
http://i793.photobucket.com/albums/yy216/COMB2/606686bc.jpg
http://i793.photobucket.com/albums/yy216/COMB2/07f9a926.jpg

LITTLEa
04-12-2012, 6:49 PM
try this stuff called "modge podge" you can find it at arts and craft stores its mostly used for sealing art pieces from the elements or for pasteing items together in collage style. its avail in flat or gloss. its brush on so the thicker the tougher. i used it on my tank over rust and its holding up great i live by the beach and its still clean to the touch.

Gene
04-13-2012, 4:39 AM
I've been wanting to order some of this for a while to use to preserve a bare finish on a tank. It might work if you clean the surface a bit.

http://www.chevsofthe40s.com/detail/33262/RUST_PREVENTATIVE_MAGIC_LIQUID_8Oz.html

Stick
04-13-2012, 8:26 PM
http://img.tapatalk.com/6c448f9f-bb82-6a97.jpg
Clear over rust...worked fine.

love it!

livingdeadmc
04-13-2012, 8:34 PM
love it!

Thanks man...it's one of my favs.

TimB1640
04-15-2012, 6:20 AM
I treated my copper plating about a year ago and the copper still hasn't turned green

use car wax for that. polish it and wax it if the air can't get at it it can't tarnish or oxidize