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tobiism
10-13-2009, 10:53 PM
Well, I had a ton of fun on my sporty chop, but laid it down in a right hand turn due to ground clearance issues. I never could quite throw it around the same after that. I lost confidence in the bike and it wasn't fun anymore.
SO I decided to redo it as a swingarm.
Worst thing about a swingarm sporty is that damn seat area is so flat. Its hard to dress that up and make it look good, so I chopped out the seat area and replaced those tubes with new ones that redesigned the seat area to look more like the old 4-spd bigtwin frames.
From this-
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a246/tobiism/DSC03057.jpg
To tailsection cut off and the seat area put back together with new redesigned tubes
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a246/tobiism/DSC03915.jpg
Swingarm lengthened 1 3/8" to space the bike out a bit, not be so cramped.
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a246/tobiism/DSC03960.jpg
Fender mounted and seat in it's beginning stages
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a246/tobiism/DSC04244.jpg
The seat will be done in black tuck and roll.
Thats it for now, more to come soon!

Magickman
10-13-2009, 11:33 PM
I like it! Very different and cool too.

One of these days we need to connect and ride somewhere...

AfterHours
10-13-2009, 11:42 PM
Bromance is in the air!


I think the swingarm will be pretty cool. I de-rigid'd my bike as well,but I had made a bolt on rigid section to begin with. I knew I'd change my mind again.

dirtyd
10-14-2009, 8:52 AM
nice work, do you sleeve the swing arm before the plug pieces so the level of steel is the same instead of the indentation.

Boylecomm
10-14-2009, 10:06 AM
Nice!

SDJose
10-14-2009, 10:32 AM
Looking good!

billybiltit
10-14-2009, 1:33 PM
nice job,keep us posted.

leon holmes

Magickman
10-14-2009, 2:37 PM
Bromance is in the air!


I think the swingarm will be pretty cool. I de-rigid'd my bike as well,but I had made a bolt on rigid section to begin with. I knew I'd change my mind again.

Thats it! I am sending back my SGT.

kromsucks
10-14-2009, 3:12 PM
looks bitchin what kinda shocks are those

billdozer
10-14-2009, 3:40 PM
Lovin' it. Looks kinda link a shorty FXR now.

billdozer
10-14-2009, 3:41 PM
Lovin' it. Looks kinda link a shorty FXR now.

theOldePro
10-14-2009, 5:29 PM
awesome. love the look. its exactly what i would want my new sporty to be like. that lower seat height and slight angle of the seat area of the older FLH frames always looked way better than stock sportster swingarm frames!

good job.

burntclutch
10-14-2009, 8:02 PM
Genius. Looks great, can't wait to see finished product.

joshb
10-14-2009, 9:50 PM
double negative chop. it looks good, man.

Cody
10-14-2009, 10:29 PM
already tell this is gonna be a sweet swingarm, love the flow of the frame. Can't wait to see the seat covered and in place.

codemankrazy
10-14-2009, 10:32 PM
gonna have to agree with cody on that

tobiism
10-15-2009, 10:25 PM
Thanks for the comments guys, I'm pretty stoked on the re-do!
Decided to cut the seat pan down to solo, and will do a P-pad to match. Got the foam(old pool floaty) glued down and shaved. Pretty comfy.
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a246/tobiism/DSC04275.jpg
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a246/tobiism/DSC04278.jpg
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a246/tobiism/DSC04279.jpg
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a246/tobiism/DSC04281.jpg

ChoppyGee
10-15-2009, 10:41 PM
Coolest thing on springs!

NaK
10-16-2009, 6:49 PM
Man I was totally digging the seat before making it solo.

tobiism
10-16-2009, 7:25 PM
Man I was totally digging the seat before making it solo.

Not to worry, the section that I cut off is getting turned into a p-pad that I can put on whenever I want.

Cody
10-16-2009, 9:06 PM
i have to agree, the one peice seat was looking cool in my mind, but I assume you know what you are doing :-)

burntclutch
10-16-2009, 10:25 PM
P pad could look bad ass

tobiism
10-17-2009, 2:46 PM
Well, until I can send the seat out for upholstery(yup, I'm paying someone to tuck and roll this one for me). I figured I'd get started on the oil tank. Its a wraparound that fits inside the triangle. Unfortunately, I can't put the battery inside the tank, so it'll be in an inset battery box on the left side of the tank. Oh well, thats life.

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a246/tobiism/DSC04285.jpg

EnglandStGarage
10-18-2009, 6:42 PM
bike looks amazing. i remember your build thread on the jj. what are you gonna do with your old seat? that thing is pretty badass. pm with a price and i might buy it from ya.

Drunk6Nacho6King6
10-19-2009, 8:16 PM
That thing is tits. Makes me totally rethink what I want to do with my 74.

tobiism
10-19-2009, 10:15 PM
Well, got most of the panels done on the oil tank. I'll put the rear panel on last. The filler neck is from an old piece of exhaust tubing and the cap is just an expandable plug. I'll turn a cap from some aluminum soon.
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a246/tobiism/DSC04306.jpg
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a246/tobiism/DSC04309.jpg
I'm pretty stoked how skinny it still is, even as a swingarm.
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a246/tobiism/DSC04310.jpg
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a246/tobiism/DSC04281.jpg

tobiism
10-19-2009, 10:16 PM
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a246/tobiism/DSC04311.jpg
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a246/tobiism/DSC04312.jpg
Some cool night shots
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a246/tobiism/DSC04299.jpg
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a246/tobiism/DSC04300.jpg

Cody
10-19-2009, 11:07 PM
lookin good!

svwannabe
10-20-2009, 5:55 AM
I see your rocking the new exile chainless setup... sick dude, LoL bike is tight looking though. Are you still using a pool float for your seat? I see the blue foam is gone...

AngryCracker
10-21-2009, 6:34 AM
[QUOTE=tobiism;16517]Well, I had a ton of fun on my sporty chop, but laid it down in a right hand turn due to ground clearance issues. I never could quite throw it around the same after that. I lost confidence in the bike and it wasn't fun anymore.
SO I decided to redo it as a swingarm.



No matter how much people talk shit about swing arms (you know who you are) I would never hardtail my bike. Rigids look cool and shit but I love the way my bike rides and feels. I used to be part of a forum that kinda subliminally gave me the impression that your bike aint shit unless its rigid. I really don't feel that as being the case. There are some pretty rad swingers out there and I wish there were more.

vin
10-22-2009, 12:15 PM
"or heavily modified swingarms"

Boylecomm
10-22-2009, 2:40 PM
Man this is looking really cool. Let's see that oil tank out of the frame sometime TOB.

AngryCracker
10-22-2009, 7:33 PM
"or heavily modified swingarms"

Yup, you know what I'm talking about....

tobiism
10-22-2009, 9:19 PM
Man this is looking really cool. Let's see that oil tank out of the frame sometime TOB.

Thanks man, I appreciate that. I'll get pics of the tank up tomorrow. Its really simple.

Well, I didn't feel like doing any real fabricating tonight, so I just made a change in bars on the ol' sporty. I wasn't real keen on how tall the t-bars were on the new configuration, being that they laid straight back.
So, I pulled out these rad 4" risers that I scored from OhioPaintThrower Steve and the 7/8" bars from my CL360 Honda. Chop 2" from the ends of the bars and voila.
I'm super stoked on their look and feel, but now I need a new top clamp and a stock eyebrow with headlight to complete the look.
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a246/tobiism/DSC04321.jpg
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a246/tobiism/DSC04322.jpg
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a246/tobiism/DSC04320.jpg

AngryCracker
10-22-2009, 9:25 PM
I may still have my old black wrinkle finish headlight visor if you want it. I wouldn't mind making a donation to the "re-birth". Let me know where to send it if you want it.

tobiism
10-22-2009, 9:56 PM
Here ya go Boyle, got the pics of the tank tonight. I still need to finish weld the seams and weld in the back panel and the mounting and oil bungs. It'll hold 3.75 quarts
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a246/tobiism/DSC04323.jpg
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a246/tobiism/DSC04324.jpg
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a246/tobiism/DSC04325.jpg
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a246/tobiism/DSC04326.jpg

pangeaspeed
10-23-2009, 1:07 AM
i like your alternative to the typical oil tank options that everyone seems to be relying on lately. good on ya!

billybiltit
10-24-2009, 10:45 PM
bike looks so right.nice work.
what is the seat height?really good lookin lines.

leon holmes

Boylecomm
10-25-2009, 11:34 AM
Yep I like it too. What are you doing for a battery?

tobiism
10-25-2009, 11:51 AM
Thanks guys, the battery is going under the swingarm, and will be hinged at two points to move with the swingarm.
I'm working on it right now, should be pretty cool, and fill in that ugly open space between the front of the rear tire and the bottom of the frame.

tobiism
10-25-2009, 10:57 PM
Well, I finally decided the battery had to go under the swingarm. I never liked the idea of it being down there with the chance of the swingarm smacking into it. So I wondered how it would work if the battery pivoted with the swingarm. I'm not worried about it taking the stress of moving up and down, because the battery was just fine bouncing up and down in my rigid.
Anyway, here it is, with brass bushings for pivots and a nice heim joint linkage for the top. The battery cables will be that super flexible welder's cable.
Keep in mind, this is basically mockup, all mounts need to be beefed up.
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a246/tobiism/DSC04356.jpg
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AngryCracker
10-27-2009, 3:37 AM
Thats pretty cool. But is there enough ground clearance there for speed bumps and stuff like that? Also how will you keep the battery covered from rain spray from the back tire and all that type of grime? Will the terminals be facing forward or back towards the rear wheel? Might be dumb questions, but just the thoughts that came to mind. I like the over all idea though.

Boylecomm
10-27-2009, 7:53 PM
I don't like nay sayin much but good luck with that one.

tobiism
10-27-2009, 8:16 PM
I don't like nay sayin much but good luck with that one.

Well, I'm always up for ideas. What don't you think will work about it? Like I said, this is just mockup, and all the mounts will be beefed up. The shocks only have like an 1.5" of travel, so it won't be pivoting as much as it shows in the video.

tobiism
10-27-2009, 8:19 PM
Thats pretty cool. But is there enough ground clearance there for speed bumps and stuff like that? Also how will you keep the battery covered from rain spray from the back tire and all that type of grime? Will the terminals be facing forward or back towards the rear wheel? Might be dumb questions, but just the thoughts that came to mind. I like the over all idea though.

Hey, its got plenty of ground clearance, as its the same height from the ground as the bottom of the frame. The only way it pivots lower than the frame is when the rear wheel is rebounding, so that shouldn't be a problem. The terminals will have covers over them to keep out road grime.

AngryCracker
10-27-2009, 9:33 PM
Hey, its got plenty of ground clearance, as its the same height from the ground as the bottom of the frame. The only way it pivots lower than the frame is when the rear wheel is rebounding, so that shouldn't be a problem. The terminals will have covers over them to keep out road grime.

Sounds good man. From the pics it looked like it might have been lower than the frame. Maybe its just my eyes. Post some pics of the progress, and when its done, give us a road tested update. I like the things you build. Lots of thought and originality goes into your stuff.

Stubs
10-28-2009, 4:33 PM
I have skipped over this tread from the start because the title didn't sound to interesting, but the bike is looking good. The idea on the seat area if fucking cool! And i like the new bars.

Cody
10-29-2009, 12:45 AM
that is one trick battery box... always looking forward to you next post.

tobiism
11-05-2009, 7:13 PM
I decided to skinny up the rear a bit.
Now that I've seen this rear shot I realize I need to narrow the p-portion of the seat a couple of inches. This one is on a fiberglass pan I made to fit the frame and fender.
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a246/tobiism/DSC04487.jpg
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a246/tobiism/DSC04489.jpg
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a246/tobiism/DSC04488.jpg
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a246/tobiism/DSC04490.jpg

Boylecomm
11-06-2009, 12:50 PM
Yeah, I'm locked up on this one. F'n batteries you'd think in this day & age someone one would figure out how to make these things a hell of a lot smaller.
My concern isn't so much your work but the battery withstanding 1000 times more vibration, jolts, bumps etc.
Plus you've done such a good job with the lines on this bike & now you have this box hanging down there?
LOL, I'm absolutely no help here....



Well, I'm always up for ideas. What don't you think will work about it? Like I said, this is just mockup, and all the mounts will be beefed up. The shocks only have like an 1.5" of travel, so it won't be pivoting as much as it shows in the video.

tobiism
11-06-2009, 12:56 PM
Yeah, I'm locked up on this one. F'n batteries you'd think in this day & age someone one would figure out how to make these things a hell of a lot smaller.
My concern isn't so much your work but the battery withstanding 1000 times more vibration, jolts, bumps etc.
Plus you've done such a good job with the lines on this bike & now you have this box hanging down there?
LOL, I'm absolutely no help here....

I forgot to post this, but I decided against that box. I hadn't mounted the wheel up with the chain adjusted properly, and now that I have, I have plenty of room to mount the battery directly to the swingarm, which moves it about 2.5" higher, and looks waaaay better.
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a246/tobiism/DSC04398.jpg

svwannabe
11-06-2009, 1:13 PM
Yeah that battery setup looks much cleaner then the last pictures, it still looks really close to the the tire though

tobiism
11-07-2009, 3:12 AM
well, i like leather seats because they are cheap and relatively easy. thought i'd try my hand at something different. figured i could create a tuck and roll illusion with fake stitching
and now with the pics
lay out the lines and score them with a screwdriver
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a246/tobiism/DSC04495.jpg
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a246/tobiism/DSC04496.jpg
follow scored line with a pounce wheel
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a246/tobiism/DSC04498.jpg
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a246/tobiism/DSC04497.jpg

tobiism
11-07-2009, 3:13 AM
cut it out, mold that bitch, glue it together, dye it, and voila! Don't mind that off color section at the tail, it was wetter than the rest of the seat when I started dyeing it. I'll buff it out tomorrow, and then it goes to the stitchers
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a246/tobiism/DSC04505.jpg
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a246/tobiism/DSC04506.jpg
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a246/tobiism/DSC04507.jpg

tobiism
11-07-2009, 3:55 PM
Got it back from Robert the stitcher today, and it looks great! I think this is my favorite seat so far.
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a246/tobiism/DSC04520.jpg
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a246/tobiism/DSC04519.jpg
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a246/tobiism/DSC04521.jpg

burntclutch
11-07-2009, 3:59 PM
Bike looks great, seat looks great. Outstanding job sir

Nicko
11-07-2009, 4:28 PM
well done indeed.

rusjack
11-07-2009, 4:31 PM
that seat looks great, and those few pictures helped me out quite a bit.
skinny back end looks a whole lot nicer too IMO

I've been digging the bike since I saw the beginning of it, and the never ending changes are all pleasing to follow

Do you order your leather and dye online? or a local spot? I'm looking for a good online spot to order some, can't get it in my town.

tobiism
11-07-2009, 4:39 PM
Thanks guys-
Rusjack, I get all my supplies at Tandy leather. We have an outlet here in AZ that makes it really convenient. This seat was made with 4/5 oz leather, still thin enough to help make molding easier.

Boylecomm
11-08-2009, 12:59 PM
Man, as usual Good stuff!

scandia
11-09-2009, 6:10 PM
HEy, if your looking for small batteries check out this link. Someone in the Japanese bike section told me about it. http://www.ebattonline.com/index.html

tobiism
11-09-2009, 10:51 PM
Thanks Boyle, I'm stoked on it.
Got my new headlight in today
Made a bracket to mount it since I deleted my stock brow mounts.
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a246/tobiism/DSC04542.jpg
I mounted it a little lower than the stock position.

Boylecomm
11-09-2009, 11:46 PM
Are you coming out the the Salton Sea this weekend?

tobiism
11-10-2009, 1:00 PM
Are you coming out the the Salton Sea this weekend?

I wish I could, but being broke with an incomplete motorcycle is working against me!

MetalHeadFab
11-11-2009, 12:54 AM
Kinda late on your build, but that thing thing came out great. Nice work on the seat too.

That just got me motivated to give one a shot.

SDJose
11-11-2009, 6:25 PM
Looks great Matt! Nice job!

tobiism
11-12-2009, 6:52 PM
I love a good 2-1, and this one only took about 2 hours to make. That collector is from Toyota pickup exhaust I salvaged when I lived in Japan.
All the other pieces are from old exhaust pipes I had laying around(thanks LineX82!) Oh, thats 2" pipe after the collector.
Still need to finish weld and clean it up, and then its getting powder coated white(I think)
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a246/tobiism/DSC04548.jpg
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a246/tobiism/DSC04549.jpg

CECNC
11-13-2009, 3:44 PM
Just read through this thread and so far I am digging the bike. Looking forward to seeing it finished.

motomotard
11-13-2009, 9:55 PM
very cool

looks way better than it did rigid.

i was diggin the first rear fender set up alot more though

tobiism
11-13-2009, 11:42 PM
very cool

looks way better than it did rigid.

i was diggin the first rear fender set up alot more though

thats cool man. I'm sticking with this one as I'm still trying to keep it light on the eyes, and the full width fender just had too much weight to it.

PoorBastard
11-14-2009, 10:17 PM
New fender is cool, I digged the curvy small apes on it better though. Either way, its got great flow and that seat rocks.

tobiism
11-14-2009, 10:58 PM
Well, got my oil tank bungs welded in. They're tapped on the backside for 90* fittings to run the vent and return to the top of the tank.
Now I need to weld in the mounting bungs and the rear panel. Or I may just spring mount it like XR tanks.
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a246/tobiism/DSC04563.jpg
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a246/tobiism/DSC04558.jpg
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http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a246/tobiism/DSC04557.jpg

Pantsbeer
11-14-2009, 11:46 PM
That bike is fucking clean. I've been watching this thread and just drooling over your bike. Keep up the good work.

billybiltit
11-16-2009, 10:29 PM
this bike kicks ass!you have some vision.

leon holmes

tobiism
11-16-2009, 11:13 PM
Thanks guys!

Cody
11-17-2009, 2:03 AM
looks awesome! great job man!

wickedblockhead
11-17-2009, 11:06 AM
This bike is bitchin! I check this thread everyday for something new. Can't wait to see the finished product! Nice job!

Nicko
11-17-2009, 3:33 PM
checking the thread everyday to see what you've done. Don't want to pressure you my man, but you need to get busy! Although, you need to get it done so you can kick that thing in the breeze.

steviemonster
11-18-2009, 6:14 PM
Dude..........this bike is smokin!!! love the seat.........i keep checkin this thread....sweet!! x

steviemonster.blogspot.com

tobiism
11-23-2009, 8:42 PM
So, I was out in the garage last night, working on battery mounting on the Sporty, and all of a sudden, my distracted nature kicked in and all of a sudden I was working on a new set of bars. It was like I blacked out and woke up with a set of bars. I'm bad like that.
Luckily I was conscious enough to grab a camera and document a little tech.
This is simple easy stuff, but I wasn't sure how many people knew how easy this is.
Riser spuds. The kind you weld into your bars to mount to your trees.
These cost $1.14 each at Home Depot. Don't ever buy connecting nuts at ACE Hardware, they double ass fuck you on the cost.
1/2 by 1.5"
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a246/tobiism/DSC04613.jpg
Take 1x .5" bolt and cut the head off.
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a246/tobiism/DSC04615.jpg
Thread the bolt into the connecting nut and chuck it up in your drill press(must have a 1/2" chuck)
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a246/tobiism/DSC04617.jpg
Start spinning the drill press and straight up attack that shit with your flapper wheel on your angle grinder.
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a246/tobiism/DSC04618.jpg
Check frequently to see when your tubing will slide up over the connecting nut
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a246/tobiism/DSC04619.jpg
Voila
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a246/tobiism/DSC04620.jpg
Put your tubing into a tubing vice like my homemade job and drill some 1/2" holes for some big ol' rosette welds
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a246/tobiism/DSC04621.jpg
Weld those bitches in and you're set.
These are what those tubes went into
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a246/tobiism/DSC04625.jpg
And now some artsy fartsy shots
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a246/tobiism/DSC04634.jpg
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a246/tobiism/DSC04635.jpg
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a246/tobiism/DSC04636.jpg

billybiltit
11-23-2009, 10:08 PM
nice bars,gotta love the flapper wheel!
way to get it done,great tech.the
bike is lookin good,seat looks comfy.

leon holmes

wickedblockhead
11-24-2009, 1:21 PM
that bike is sick man.

theMule
11-24-2009, 2:35 PM
i've commented on the build thread on the "other" chop board and just read through the updates on both, not only do you document everything so well, you have the patience to narrate everything and then post it on 2 forums. Coming from someone who loves to soak this stuff up like a sponge i gotta say i appreciate the dedication and the inspiration.

wickedblockhead
11-24-2009, 5:01 PM
Amen!

tobiism
11-27-2009, 9:57 PM
Thanks alot guys, I dig hearing that!

tobiism
11-27-2009, 9:58 PM
Sexy chopper/tracker anyone?
Ya know I can't help playing around when I'm mocking up, and having these different shock mounts on the swingarm is too tempting to pass up.
All that ground clearance would be rad!
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a246/tobiism/DSC04713.jpg
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a246/tobiism/DSC04714.jpg
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a246/tobiism/DSC04712.jpg
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a246/tobiism/DSC04711.jpg
And for you japper lovers out there, here is my Honda CL360 engine after being torn apart, cleaned up and painted Ford Gray
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a246/tobiism/DSC04715.jpg
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a246/tobiism/DSC04716.jpg

tobiism
12-23-2009, 10:40 PM
Alright, those damn strut stubs have always bugged the shit out of me, on mine and other people's bikes. They never look finished to me. For this version of the bike I wanted that area to look complete. So I decided to make some new struts to fit the fender. They are made out of a few pieces of 11G sheet. I'll finish boxing it in and then fully weld them to the fender. They're going to be molded in.
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a246/tobiism/DSC04992.jpg
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a246/tobiism/DSC04993.jpg
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burntclutch
12-23-2009, 11:05 PM
I know i've already said it, but that bike is badass man, was gonna say I was thinking about stealing it but remembered that some piece of shit stole one of mine

wickedblockhead
12-23-2009, 11:10 PM
regarding those air shocks, are you going to run 1/8' steel line between the two and to the schrader valve? i have started buidling my own and am just curious what you are going to do

tobiism
12-24-2009, 7:51 AM
Thanks guys, as for the schrader valve, I'll have one in each shock. I'm not going to tie the two together.

Nicko
12-24-2009, 9:36 AM
shock, make sure you use a hand pump on it, like a bicycle pump. Your compressor will blow the diaphragm out in a heartbeat. Been there, and done it. When they are run in unison, pressure from 15-18lbs will take two up, 12lb solo. But with separate valves they seem to take higher pressure, 40-55lbs a pc. I have been run them on a dyna and XL in the past. If you are light, you can run them empty and they feel fine....just my .02

jpswino
12-24-2009, 11:31 AM
Nice building work. I just caught this thread. Some good ideas here to remember and incorporate into my future work.

Its looking really good.

Cheers, jp

tobiism
12-24-2009, 10:02 PM
shock, make sure you use a hand pump on it, like a bicycle pump. Your compressor will blow the diaphragm out in a heartbeat. Been there, and done it. When they are run in unison, pressure from 15-18lbs will take two up, 12lb solo. But with separate valves they seem to take higher pressure, 40-55lbs a pc. I have been run them on a dyna and XL in the past. If you are light, you can run them empty and they feel fine....just my .02

Thanks man, I've got the actual HD pump on hand to pump them up.

tobiism
12-24-2009, 10:03 PM
Got the left side done and ready for a little filler
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a246/tobiism/DSC05020.jpg
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a246/tobiism/DSC05021.jpg
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wickedblockhead
12-25-2009, 11:13 AM
lookin damn good man

TheYetti
12-25-2009, 12:07 PM
Damn good looking bike! I love build threads like this, I get so many damn ideas from them and love to see all the different ideas and perspectives you can get on a how to build a bike!

tobiism
12-26-2009, 10:08 PM
Its funny how a misfortune can lead to much improved results. Always try to make things better when you mess up! When I welded the fender to the struts it pulled majorly to the left. So I cut it apart and that old ass ribbed fender just seemed tired to me. So I decided to change the fender. This is a front fender from one of those fat-tire disasters. I love it. Its kind of a combination of the ribbed fender and that purple fender I had on before.
Way better I think.
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a246/tobiism/DSC05078.jpg
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a246/tobiism/DSC05079.jpg
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a246/tobiism/DSC05080.jpg
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http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a246/tobiism/DSC05082.jpg

losbastardos
12-28-2009, 5:30 AM
great job man...shows how much work goes into making a swingarm ride look REALLY good.

me
12-28-2009, 9:08 PM
i normaly don't like fenders that are way off the tire (the cafe style sortta kinda). but man you def made it look good, i'm really enjoyin watchin it

tobiism
12-28-2009, 10:31 PM
Thanks guys, I'm having a good time with this one.
I'm almost done with the frame fab before the rest of the body work and paint. I got the fender struts all done, and I couldn't be happier with them.
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a246/tobiism/DSC05118.jpg
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Danisdead
12-29-2009, 3:09 PM
This is one thread i look forward to new posts on.

tobiism
12-29-2009, 10:27 PM
Whipped up the taillight mount tonight and thought I'd throw it together for a quick mockup. I'm leaving both shock mounts in place on the swingarm so I can switch between post-apocolyptic toecutter evading chop to laid-back long trip cruiser.
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a246/tobiism/DSC05125.jpg
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wickedblockhead
12-29-2009, 10:38 PM
lookin good, got any close ups of your tank? specifically the petcock?

tobiism
01-01-2010, 9:41 PM
Yeah Blockhead, I'll find you some

tobiism
01-01-2010, 9:41 PM
Appliance Epoxy Enamel. I love this shit. Flows out very smooth and is tough as nails. You must let it sit for a week between coats. After one week I will scuff it up with a red scotchbrite pad and hit it again. It has tremendous luster when all is said and done.
I made a rookie mistake and forgot that my shock bolts and my voltage regulator will still attached when I started painting. What can I say, I was excited!
Anyway, I wasn't trying to mold the frame into 70's style molding, just trying to clean up a lot of my MIG welds(especially on the neck). It looks a 1000 times better than before. The tank will get the same black. I'm trying to get this done for the LOVE Cycles party on the 16th of this month.
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a246/tobiism/DSC05151.jpg
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a246/tobiism/DSC05152.jpg
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wickedblockhead
01-01-2010, 10:16 PM
gawddam thats PURTY!

billybiltit
01-01-2010, 10:59 PM
this thing turned out nice,good job.can't wait to see more,keep us posted.

leon holmes

Brandon
01-02-2010, 12:31 AM
What color do you want your bike painted? Any color is fine as long as it is BLACK....Very nice

svwannabe
01-02-2010, 11:10 AM
Frame looks awesome

tobiism
01-02-2010, 11:34 PM
Thanks everybody! I appreciate it!
Ahhh, its a bike again. I won't have time to paint the gas or oil tank before the Love Cycles party. I just need to finish the swingarm and the exhaust and it'll be good to go. I decided to clean up the engine and make it look pretty. Took the chrome coating on the cam cover down to the nickle and scotchbrited the lower two valve covers. The top covers are painted VHT exhaust black.
The exhaust will still be white.
Enjoy-
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a246/tobiism/DSC05176-1.jpg
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http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a246/tobiism/DSC05185-1.jpg

WickedBlockhead, here is the closeup you asked for of the petcock. Its a brass valve that I remote mounted under the tank
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a246/tobiism/DSC05186-1.jpg

svwannabe
01-03-2010, 10:04 AM
Dude you are a master of the sportster, one sec its a bare frame the next its back together. Are you gonna coat the swing arm with the same stuff as the frame?

wickedblockhead
01-03-2010, 11:49 AM
thanx man, i knew there was something different about that. damn thing looks fuckin righteous.

tobiism
01-04-2010, 6:12 PM
Dude you are a master of the sportster, one sec its a bare frame the next its back together. Are you gonna coat the swing arm with the same stuff as the frame?

Thanks!
Yup, just needs a little more work and then I'll paint it.

tobiism
01-04-2010, 6:17 PM
thanx man, i knew there was something different about that. damn thing looks fuckin righteous.

Thanks man!

Danisdead
01-04-2010, 6:22 PM
dude you've had that bike apart so many times I just noticed the time laps from when you had it together, then apart and painted, and back together..One day, thats insane.

tobiism
01-04-2010, 7:19 PM
dude you've had that bike apart so many times I just noticed the time laps from when you had it together, then apart and painted, and back together..One day, thats insane.

I'm a little MANIC that way. Zero patience

SDJose
01-04-2010, 7:29 PM
Hey Matt,
looking good man. I'm on the other side of the spectrum with my Sporty. I should change my forum name to Slow Poke Jose.

mynameismudd
01-04-2010, 9:58 PM
i just started on this thread and this is fucking sick!!! i was trying to figure out how it was twelve pages. but now i know!!!! B E A U TIFUL bro!! love it for real. but....i just read through twelve pages and no ending damn...
will be looking out for the grand finale thanks for the journey
mudd

Danisdead
01-05-2010, 12:08 PM
Hey Tobism, How hard was it to stretch that swingarm?? I love it and have wanted to do it for a while on my shovel.

Jashole
01-05-2010, 12:41 PM
WOW. I will definetly be hitting you up for help on my sporty project!



PHEWWWW

blacklistVISUAL
01-05-2010, 2:28 PM
Tobias, how many goddamn adderall do you crush and snort with your morning coffee?
I need a just a fraction of your get-er-done-ism.

tobiism
01-05-2010, 8:24 PM
Tobias, how many goddamn adderall do you crush and snort with your morning coffee?
I need a just a fraction of your get-er-done-ism.

Hah, just Starbucks Italian roast man. Nothin' special.

tobiism
01-05-2010, 10:20 PM
I changed up the tailpipe to lower the exit down a couple of inches. now its inline with the frame rails below the oil tank and looks much better.
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a246/tobiism/DSC05196.jpg
Here is my compromise-
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a246/tobiism/DSC05195.jpg
First of all I am not proud of this. But I just couldn't find another solution that was at all pleasing to the eye. This was it. That is a battery bag. Not so much a bag as the battery is mounted in a frame and the bag is a cover. It snaps on around the back. I had to make it easy to remove for access to the cables. I openly hate it.

wickedblockhead
01-05-2010, 11:03 PM
is there not enough room in front of the rear wheel? have youthought about making some room in the underside of the oil bag? i mean mount the battery to the swingarm but leave enough room under the oil bag for the travel? am i on the moon here? nevermind i think the frame is in the way too. hmmmm

SportsterBob
01-07-2010, 3:01 PM
in german:

Krasser Scheiss, alter!

lugie
01-07-2010, 4:00 PM
http://www.ebattonline.com/index.html

check that out :)

or:
https://www.bajadesigns.com/NET/P-120315/Battery%2c+Nicad+Wired


Looking damn good by the way!

Danisdead
01-07-2010, 4:16 PM
http://www.ebattonline.com/index.html

check that out :)

or:
https://www.bajadesigns.com/NET/P-120315/Battery%2c+Nicad+Wired


Looking damn good by the way!

if you were kick only those might work or running a magneto.

tobiism
01-07-2010, 11:36 PM
Fired her up tonight. Always good for a little motivation. Now for just a little more painting, wiring, and putting the chain and brakes on!
Damn she sounds good!
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Jashole
01-07-2010, 11:51 PM
PHEWW!!! just saw the video. good shit

wickedblockhead
01-08-2010, 1:36 AM
sounds good bro. its nice to have neighbors that dont complain, aint it? or maybe you dont have neighbors. or MAYBE youre such a badass that no one fucks with you....

losbastardos
01-08-2010, 4:14 AM
hey man..coupla points...exhaust looks real nice how you followed the line of the frame rail...
i wouldn't sweat too much about the battery 'bag' or mount you have. IMHO it's a perfectly valid solution. a LOT of swedish(considered very cool in europe, for what it's worth!) bike builders use this method, especially on the older bikes. the chop's looking great, sounds nice, now get out there!!!

ps, i llike how you can just hear the mrs saying'alright!' at the end of the clip LOL

Jashole
01-08-2010, 8:36 PM
^^^ caught that too.

"alright alright"

-your lady


hahahaha sweeeet.

Homebrew
01-09-2010, 6:29 AM
Just found this thread and read all 14 pages. Just like a good book (and I don't like to read much) I had to read it all. Awesome job on the scoot and very nice step by step posts with plenty of pics. A+

blacklistVISUAL
01-09-2010, 3:29 PM
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a246/tobiism/DSC05196.jpg


I just noticed that you've got a fuckin' midget living on your shelf (top right). Do the two of you work in shifts? Maybe you just manage... stand back, make the tough calls, then go inside and drink cheap beer while that poor little bastard slaves away?

Send him my way when you're done --- I'll give you a good price for the bike-building munchkin.

PS. I love that you've got a whole wall of out-of-use seats and doo-dads that you've made, run and abandoned in less time than it's taken me to decide what the fuck I'm doin'.

tobiism
01-10-2010, 10:05 PM
Shit Brother, that wee-man is Union, you'll have to ask his district boss!

tobiism
01-10-2010, 10:06 PM
Lee Bender's Pope Nose Sporty is one of my favorites. That little fairing he did on the bars just looks so rad. I thought I might try my own version.
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a246/tobiism/DSC05306rotate.jpg
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a246/tobiism/DSC05307.jpg
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wickedblockhead
01-10-2010, 10:11 PM
is that a fender? that looks badass! i dig small fairings, and that looks awesome

Jashole
01-10-2010, 11:03 PM
keeps lookin better and better. dam.

blacklistVISUAL
01-11-2010, 12:03 AM
Tobias, when we finally meet, remind my to punch your balls.
My plan has been for the Fixxer to get some sort of styley little quarter fairing, but you're just way too goddamn fast --- now I'm gonna have to bring back the WindJammer, just to avoid lookin' like I'm bitin' your steez!

blacklistVISUAL
01-11-2010, 12:04 AM
By the way, I fucking LOVE your motorcycle right now. Side mount battery and all.
I know you probably won't consider it, but I'd love to see that scoot touched by a "real" painter, doing something along the lines of what we chatted about the other day... think 1980 Duc 900SS. Which is double retarded for me to say, because that's also the paint scheme I was thinkin' for the Fixxer.
(You'll get there first, so take it, hombre.)

tobiism
01-12-2010, 5:12 PM
By the way, I fucking LOVE your motorcycle right now. Side mount battery and all.
I know you probably won't consider it, but I'd love to see that scoot touched by a "real" painter, doing something along the lines of what we chatted about the other day... think 1980 Duc 900SS. Which is double retarded for me to say, because that's also the paint scheme I was thinkin' for the Fixxer.
(You'll get there first, so take it, hombre.)

Thanks man, and the only way a pro-painter is touching this bike is if he wants to do it pro-boner(or whatever they call it, LOL)

tobiism
01-12-2010, 5:12 PM
Next time I should plan my maiden voyage a little better. It could have been worse, like 4 miles away...
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revmike
01-12-2010, 5:25 PM
I hope you didn't pull in and realize the petcock was off. I usually figure that out as I'm pushing it into the gas station....

~Rev Mike

revmike
01-12-2010, 5:47 PM
Looking at some of the lines of the bike, when it was raw, those fender struts you made seemed to stick out a bit much. Not bad, just not flowing like the rest. I was going to say it might be interesting to taper those in until they just fade into the fender at the back. The flowing lines would compliment the lines of the nose faring if you use it. almost a kind of 21st century, generation next cafe style... fuck I dunno...

~Rev Mike

steffan
01-12-2010, 7:01 PM
thats a pretty rad scoot. im trying to hard tail mine but i dig the way you did yours. i like the old bars you had better but thats just because thats what i want on mine. the news ones still look great.

wickedblockhead
01-12-2010, 7:18 PM
its nice to have an OL who puts up with you and even films you

tobiism
01-13-2010, 6:26 PM
Exhaust and swingarm are painted, just needs the two tanks painted, and I've run out of time to do them before the LOVE cycles party.
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http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a246/tobiism/DSC05392.jpg

wickedblockhead
01-13-2010, 6:33 PM
those pipes look damn tuff!

blacklistVISUAL
01-13-2010, 7:59 PM
YES, my friend.

Jashole
01-13-2010, 8:00 PM
dang man. shes lookin really good.

TuffLuckTom
01-13-2010, 8:44 PM
Did you abandon the mini fairing? Way nicer than the pope hat that inspired you imo... Both were cool ideas. The lonesome t-bars are more traditional and killer but I was digin that little ass fairing.

tobiism
01-13-2010, 8:50 PM
Did you abandon the mini fairing? Way nicer than the pope hat that inspired you imo... Both were cool ideas. The lonesome t-bars are more traditional and killer but I was digin that little ass fairing.

Thanks Tom, no I haven't abandoned the fairing, just don't feel like mounting it right now, I'm tired! Thanks for the compliment. I just want to ride it to the LOVE party.
After that I'll figure out the mount for it.

TuffLuckTom
01-13-2010, 8:54 PM
I thought the pope hat looked neat but never seemed to flow to my eye but that is a cool bike all around pope hat and all. Innovative for sure! Great work on your build btw! Diggin it! Its really funny cause your bike didnt look familiar but the pic of your swing arm mod I know from some where maybe the JJ or some where else... Seen it in the not too distant past for sure though! Really diggin your redo great fab work man!

stevanjohnson
01-13-2010, 8:57 PM
lovin this bike!! its come a long way, next time im back home in AZ i need to check this thing out. glad you didnt sell it a few months back. hahaha

wickedblockhead
01-13-2010, 8:57 PM
wtf is a pope hat? i mean besides the hat the pope wears

TuffLuckTom
01-13-2010, 9:07 PM
It would take me all night to find the bike online. Its a reference to a chop a dude built with a very slim front fairing above the head light. But resembled the popes hat alot! Saw some pic of it floating around over at the (speaks softly wishing no one to hear...) JJ a little while ago.

blacklistVISUAL
01-13-2010, 9:33 PM
The pope hat can be seen here:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_IV88f1dwC78/S0Osiey57vI/AAAAAAAADx0/CLw6XpmVQ8k/s1600-h/DSC_3492.JPG

wickedblockhead
01-13-2010, 9:54 PM
that bike is tasty

blacklistVISUAL
01-14-2010, 12:08 PM
MATT TOBIAS!
I love yelling your name.
I just locked in... see you tomorrow.
If you're down, I wanna roll by your house, snap you in your shop with your scoot, maybe?
I'll shoot you a call... just thought I'd give you the heads up so you can make sure you're clean shaven.
And I'm talking about your chest here.

TuffLuckTom
01-14-2010, 3:06 PM
The pope hat can be seen here:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_IV88f1dwC78/S0Osiey57vI/AAAAAAAADx0/CLw6XpmVQ8k/s1600-h/DSC_3492.JPG

Yeah thats the rig! Cool as the day is long!

billybiltit
01-16-2010, 3:11 PM
the bike looks great!
this is a good thing you have done,very functional.
ridin'em when you are done is the best reward for all the hard work.
thanks for postin this build,


leon

tobiism
01-30-2010, 11:07 PM
the bike looks great!
this is a good thing you have done,very functional.
ridin'em when you are done is the best reward for all the hard work.
thanks for postin this build,


leon

Thanks man!

tobiism
01-30-2010, 11:09 PM
My m/c reservoir cap popped off today, its a snug fit but the engine vibrations popped it out when I ramped up the throttle. So I figured some sort of retention was in order. So I grooved the cap on the lathe and safety wired it to the handlebar. I love safety wire. So handy!
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a246/tobiism/DSC05520.jpg
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a246/tobiism/DSC05522.jpg

DrFlathead
11-21-2010, 6:35 PM
Damn thats a bad ass build, I love how you dropped the seat. Keep up the good work.

tobiism
11-21-2010, 8:14 PM
Damn thats a bad ass build, I love how you dropped the seat. Keep up the good work.

Thanks man, its been sold off to Hancock on this board. I miss it!!! It was definitely a lot of fun!

joeythebrush
11-21-2010, 8:27 PM
Thanks man, its been sold off to Hancock on this board. I miss it!!! It was definitely a lot of fun!

a dam shame!

blacksheep
11-22-2010, 4:18 PM
you sold the bike!?

tobiism
11-22-2010, 4:50 PM
a dam shame!

Nah, I'd done everything I wanted to do to that bike and it was time to pass it on. Then I built my wishbone and sold that and now I'm on another Sporty.

EPMD
06-05-2011, 4:11 PM
interesting solution. does that ride strangely?

tobiism
06-05-2011, 7:58 PM
interesting solution. does that ride strangely?

Not at all. It drops into turns with almost no input at the bars and holds the line beautifully. Why would it ride strangely?