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junkyard2
09-30-2009, 11:06 PM
simple maybe its just that im not hip...but i dont get it...

Idnthv1
09-30-2009, 11:25 PM
here take a look

http://www.chopcult.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18

rusjack
09-30-2009, 11:35 PM
http://www.bratstyle.com/

junkyard2
10-01-2009, 12:04 AM
so pretty much its just a bobber..

Pantsbeer
10-01-2009, 12:32 AM
http://chopperdaves.blogspot.com/2008/05/what-is-bratstyle.html

Pantsbeer
10-01-2009, 12:33 AM
That has a pretty good explantion on bratstyle.

FlashMotorWorks
10-01-2009, 12:48 AM
may B this should be the first thread ever deleted on chop cult?
at least send it to the damn junk pile......

justin666
10-01-2009, 1:43 PM
so pretty much its just a bobber..

its a shop, in japan. not a "style" of bikes

justbrian
10-01-2009, 3:57 PM
Brat Style is a shop in Japan that builds a somewhat unique brand of bobber (at least as unique as any other prolific builder) - more often than not based off of smaller displacement Japanase bikes. Similar characteristics of most of their bikes seem to include lowered but otherwise stock suspension, often, frame modifications to lower the seating area, slab/moto inspired seats, and otherwise many of the other features common to other "bobbers".

Yes, they are basically a bobber, but if you go through the shops gallery (http://www.bratstyle.com/custom/custom.htm) and your average gallery of "bobbers" you will find there are some characterists common to bikes from that shop that set them somehow apart (just as you would find from many other prolific builders).

Now in terms of whether or not it's a true "style", the build style of this shop has been copied enough times that the name is starting to become something like "Q-Tip" or "Kleenex". Even in this context however, it's as grossly misused as bobber and/or chopper often are.

At the end of the day I guess there's two definitions:

Brat Style = http://www.bratstyle.com/

"brat style" = bikes emulating the aforementioned shops style of bike

junkyard2
10-01-2009, 9:33 PM
thank you for helping me out with your info..and my father always said the only dumb question is one you dont ask....i would rather ask and look like a dumbass that not know once again thanks to those who had info..

onigoroshi
10-04-2009, 8:24 PM
they also sell parts, here is a set of Bratstyle-brand T bars for the low price of $292 at today's exchange rate

http://shop.trendy.nikkeibp.co.jp/item_info/21231989611150.html

junkyard2
10-05-2009, 10:17 PM
they also sell parts, here is a set of Bratstyle-brand T bars for the low price of $292 at today's exchange rate

http://shop.trendy.nikkeibp.co.jp/item_info/21231989611150.html

that web site freaks me out..lol

Shotgun
10-05-2009, 10:24 PM
Fucking gay.

justbrian
10-05-2009, 10:32 PM
Fucking gay.

Nice start...

junkyard2
10-06-2009, 9:15 PM
Fucking gay.

so what is fucking gay?...

onigoroshi
10-09-2009, 7:24 PM
so what is fucking gay?...

$300 for those bars is fucking gay. even by JP standards that's a rip off, here are nearly identical bars for $130.

http://www.easyriders.jp/webstore/details_hd.php?syohin_code=0718-BK

junkyard2
10-10-2009, 9:36 AM
$300 for those bars is fucking gay. even by JP standards that's a rip off, here are nearly identical bars for $130.

http://www.easyriders.jp/webstore/details_hd.php?syohin_code=0718-BK

yea thats a little gay no way i would buy 300 dollars bars not like that anyway

Ansutton21
01-02-2012, 2:04 AM
Thought i would bring this thread from the very back page of the junk pile, just for old times sake. As Mcgoo would say- heres your thread "bump" for the day.

BillySlicks
01-02-2012, 2:23 AM
there are dumb questions.
your dad never had google.

you do, use it and save the dumb questions from having to be asked

Revelator
01-02-2012, 2:47 AM
I'm digging this one http://www.bratstyle.com/custom/IMG_1966.jpg

Ansutton21
01-02-2012, 2:50 AM
there ya go-http://www.bratstyle.com/custom/IMG_1966.jpg

Ansutton21
01-02-2012, 2:50 AM
I'm digging this one http://www.bratstyle.com/custom/IMG_1966.jpg

the thing looks so small!!!

Hooligan80
01-02-2012, 6:19 AM
the thing looks so small!!!

That's what she said!

Revelator
01-02-2012, 11:17 AM
It's a shame that beautiful exhaust will be getting thrashed on every right leaner.
wish I knew what motor that is, looks like they did a nice job turning down the fins.

ibuiltmine
01-02-2012, 11:24 AM
It's a shame that beautiful exhaust will be getting thrashed on every right leaner.
wish I knew what motor that is, looks like they did a nice job turning down the fins.

its an sr500 or some varyation of an sr500. tt500 tt400, something like that. pretty damn popular bike, and getting hard to get ahold of becasue of this style. the motors are going for good bucks on ebay no matter what shape. a good running titled tt500 (not even an sr500) is up around 2 grand local 3 or so on ebay.

Deadweight
01-02-2012, 4:14 PM
I always thought this was Brat style...

http://daddytypes.com/archive/bigwheel_og.jpg

Seriously, the bikes on his site are pretty cool, but I don't get the $30,000 to $50,000 dollar price tags.

IrishMike
01-02-2012, 4:43 PM
Now, I could be wrong on this, But I believe that "Brat Style" Is an old old wooden ship used in the Civil War era.

RIPshitRIOT
01-02-2012, 4:52 PM
Seriously, the bikes on his site are pretty cool, but I don't get the $30,000 to $50,000 dollar price tags.

I think shit is just more expensive in Japan.

icecaps
01-02-2012, 5:13 PM
http://www.trampcycle.com/gallery/custom/dyna/dyna.html

http://www.trampcycle.com/gallery/custom/dyna/02/01/images/product_01_06.jpg
http://www.trampcycle.com/gallery/show/neworder/01/images/product_03.jpg

blackchop
01-02-2012, 5:28 PM
as ive said before somewhere... everything ("style") has been used in the past by someone.
i know way back when i was choppin bikes and thats about how they turned out - that "brat style" or whatever its called these days.
i just figured i didnt have alot of money and welders were not at everyones garage. usually had 1 friend that his dad had a welder that a number of us would have him weld crap up for us.
anyways- nothing new bout that look.
and i started a little over 3 decades ago.

although nice looking bikes they build.

tokes61
01-02-2012, 7:01 PM
Ye its brat style cause all the little brats that used to hang around in the garage when us old farts were building copied it an started building em 30 yrs on ,:confused:

RetroRob
01-02-2012, 8:33 PM
I've always thought brat style was minimalistic, narrow, jap bike with rear suspension, where as a bobber has a hardtail. Am I right or wrong?

Ansutton21
01-02-2012, 9:43 PM
I've always thought brat style was minimalistic, narrow, jap bike with rear suspension, where as a bobber has a hardtail. Am I right or wrong?

Yea i guess japan doesnt like rigids, so they started the whole "brat" and "crazy orange" thing

Hooligan80
01-02-2012, 9:49 PM
I've always thought brat style was minimalistic, narrow, jap bike with rear suspension, where as a bobber has a hardtail. Am I right or wrong?

Wrong. Bobber is a stock bike stripped of all unnecessary crap that doesn't relate to performance and absolute functionality while retaining suspension. Basically stripping down the bike to the bare essentials, i.e. bobbing a bike. Lightweight, fast and fun.


Too many misconceptions with what is what. Who cares what a Brat is, as long as it rides as good as it looks.

Allen
01-02-2012, 10:09 PM
there ya go-http://www.bratstyle.com/custom/IMG_1966.jpg

I think that would look (more) titties and cocaine if that tank was about 4 inches higher on the bone. Hovering just over the single. But, I think "brat" style is also for skinny kids only. No fatso's like myself should roll brat.

RIPshitRIOT
01-02-2012, 10:15 PM
I think that would look (more) titties and cocaine if that tank was about 4 inches higher on the bone.

That's always been my one bitch about the Japanese style; they mount the tanks way too close to the seat for my taste.

Deadweight
01-03-2012, 1:15 AM
I think shit is just more expensive in Japan.

I agree.

onigoroshi
01-03-2012, 2:02 AM
Ye its brat style cause all the little brats that used to hang around in the garage when us old farts were building copied it an started building em 30 yrs on ,:confused:

what would you call it?

I think people wanted a new word to distance themselves from the 90s-00s billet 'chopper/bobber' and bratstyle fit the bill. it has less to do with the brat style shop itself than avoiding association with the billet custom elevator fart of a few years ago.

tokes61
01-03-2012, 4:50 AM
what would you call it?

I think people wanted a new word to distance themselves from the 90s-00s billet 'chopper/bobber' and bratstyle fit the bill. it has less to do with the brat style shop itself than avoiding association with the billet custom elevator fart of a few years ago.

Sheeet man dont know what id call it ,tell you one thing though its got class me i got my own style when i figuer out how ta post pics ill post one of a triumph i built in the early 80 s an ill post a build thread on the bonny im just gonna start doing aint brat aint bobber chopper or cafe nor standard mmm aint rat or street fighter either so what is ??????????????:cheersmate:

Buster68
01-03-2012, 6:43 AM
Yes, I am aware that "Brat Style" is a shop. But I think it is fair to say that it has also become a term for a style of bike, especially those made by Brat Style, Crazy Orange, or Red hot Cycles in Japan. But it is also becoming very popular over here - I can think of at least three build threads right now that are "brat-style" inspired or at least influenced, such as Heckler's "Hipster" (http://www.chopcult.com/forum/showthread.php?t=15454), Aghostinside's Crazy-Orange inspired (http://www.chopcult.com/forum/showthread.php?t=15692), and Saltytonk's "goldilocks" (http://www.chopcult.com/forum/showthread.php?t=15584)

When I think of the term "Brat Style" I certainly have a specific kind of bike in my mind - high, exaggerated small sporty or alien / wassell tank, sitting way back toward the seat, mid-controls, rear suspension, narrow bars, small seat with turned up back, and a ridiculously bobbed fender (or no fender at all). But, like "digger" or "frisco", there are going to be variations, and people are going to argue about it. But unlike "diggers" or "Frisco", it is a distinctively Japanese style, created (from what I gather) because of the rules on not modifying suspension in Japan, and the desire to have a tight lanesplitter in japanese traffic.

I still think it is worth recognizing it as a style though. First of all, while North America was obesessed with fat-tire choppers with airbrushed skulls and douchebaggery, the japanese were quietly keeping the flame with old-school styles, and in doing so, the Zero Engineering and similar Japanese builders influenced the kind of "old school" bikes you see over here now. The other reason I think it is significant is that the Brat Style really appeals to younger guys or guys just getting into choppers, since a later model sportster (often the first rung on the bike ladder for many people) makes an ideal platform (with relatively easy mods) for a bike like this.

With that in mind, I went through my photo collection, and here are some of the bikes I came up with when I think of Brat-Style:

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/3388/mochi.jpg

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/7237/bon5b15d.jpg

http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/2079/110707072b003.jpg

Buster68
01-03-2012, 6:45 AM
A few more:

Lee, from American Cycle Service (http://americancycleservice.com) (Bullneck (http://www.chopcult.com/forum/member.php?u=18341) on CC), who is working on Heckler's "Hipster" build, and has two other similar builds on the go, has mentioned in another thread that he thinks putting the gas tank way back towards the seat like this gives the frame sort of a cheated stretched look, and I kind of agree.

http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/4991/mochi20on20bike.jpg

http://img542.imageshack.us/img542/2053/hotwheelsj.jpg

http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/7783/anothermochi.jpg

Buster68
01-03-2012, 6:46 AM
More still (the first one is from Red Hot in Japan, I think):

http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/1227/red2bhot2bcycles.jpg

And, of course:
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/7918/dice5bratstylefinalsmal.jpg

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/8377/685j.jpg

Buster68
01-03-2012, 6:48 AM
last ones:

http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/4323/1452265990l.jpg

http://img864.imageshack.us/img864/6495/l6f4dde7201faac5ae3a068.jpg

http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/4071/pjsstash305.jpg

Revelator
01-03-2012, 11:56 AM
Brat style good for urban riding close to home. Road trip? fughetto-bout-it!
cramped body positioning, miniscule fuel capacity, No where to tie shit down.
perfect pubhopper.

Saltytonk
01-03-2012, 12:19 PM
There are several things about these bikes that I love. One being the way they use stock parts and chop em up and repurpose stuff. They are simple and clean. With the small tanks and compact design, they look like they are all engine and wheels.

One thing I've noticed is most people either love em or hate em. I havent heard many people say "They are ok" . most reactions are "What the hell is that?" same words for love em or hate em. hahahaha

jamesgs4
01-04-2012, 3:09 AM
its an sr500 or some varyation of an sr500. tt500 tt400, something like that. pretty damn popular bike, and getting hard to get ahold of becasue of this style. the motors are going for good bucks on ebay no matter what shape. a good running titled tt500 (not even an sr500) is up around 2 grand local 3 or so on ebay.

Is is an sr400, which have been selling since 1978 and still are being sold in Japan today, well over 30 years later.

http://www.yamaha-motor.jp/mc/lineup/sportsbike/sr400/
http://www.yamaha-motor.jp/mc/lineup/sportsbike/sr400/gallery/img/sr400_001_1024.jpg

jamesgs4
01-04-2012, 3:21 AM
Brat style good for urban riding close to home. Road trip? fughetto-bout-it!
cramped body positioning, miniscule fuel capacity, No where to tie shit down.
perfect pubhopper.

Road trip? OK! Colorado to Mexico 2010
http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv227/jamesgs4/Biltwell500me.jpg

onigoroshi
01-04-2012, 5:08 AM
Road trip? OK! Colorado to Mexico 2010
http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv227/jamesgs4/Biltwell500me.jpg

cool sissy bar it looks just like a street sign!

Polymathic
01-04-2012, 9:37 AM
cool sissy bar it looks just like a street sign!

:D

Revelator
01-04-2012, 11:22 AM
Road trip? OK! Colorado to Mexico 2010
http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv227/jamesgs4/Biltwell500me.jpg

Hey! I didn't say It was impossible did I? :D

I just hate wearing a backpack on long rides & hate running out of fuel in remote places

BillySlicks
01-04-2012, 1:48 PM
Hard tail negates Brat Style. So does any large displacement bike.
Having spent time in Japan, the name for the shop followed a style of building small displacement (brat) motorcycles.

They were referred to as Brats because of the dictionary definition of the word and how it relates to how chopper purists felt about smaller bikes. They considered them annoying and useless. Thus shops in Japan began building swing arm "choppers" out of smaller bikes and the style started evolving. The shop was named after the style not the other way around...

Hooligan80
01-04-2012, 9:17 PM
Hard tail negates Brat Style. So does any large displacement bike.
Having spent time in Japan, the name for the shop followed a style of building small displacement (brat) motorcycles.

They were referred to as Brats because of the dictionary definition of the word and how it relates to how chopper purists felt about smaller bikes. They considered them annoying and useless. Thus shops in Japan began building swing arm "choppers" out of smaller bikes and the style started evolving. The shop was named after the style not the other way around...

:clap for you:

Hooligan80
01-04-2012, 9:18 PM
Hey! I didn't say It was impossible did I? :D

I just hate wearing a backpack on long rides & hate running out of fuel in remote places

You ride a motorcycle, it's bound to happen.

Deadweight
01-04-2012, 9:19 PM
Hard tail negates Brat Style. So does any large displacement bike.
Having spent time in Japan, the name for the shop followed a style of building small displacement (brat) motorcycles.

They were referred to as Brats because of the dictionary definition of the word and how it relates to how chopper purists felt about smaller bikes. They considered them annoying and useless. Thus shops in Japan began building swing arm "choppers" out of smaller bikes and the style started evolving. The shop was named after the style not the other way around...

Hmmm, interesting. That actually makes a lot of since.

Hooligan80
01-04-2012, 9:20 PM
Hmmm, interesting. That actually makes a lot of since.

He's a witch! Burn him!

Deadweight
01-04-2012, 9:21 PM
He's a witch! Burn him!

I don't get it.

Hooligan80
01-04-2012, 9:27 PM
I don't get it.

Someone made sense, must be witch craft.. For fuck's sake, go watch Monty Python's Holy Grail

Deadweight
01-04-2012, 9:32 PM
Someone made sense, must be witch craft.. For fuck's sake, go watch Monty Python's Holy Grail

Oh.

Ansutton21
01-04-2012, 11:28 PM
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Ansutton21
01-04-2012, 11:30 PM
Thread jackin like a mother fucker. Thats what i do doggy. I ressurect threads, then jack the fuck out of em.

tokes61
01-05-2012, 2:10 AM
pretty much what i said little brats

ibuiltmine
01-05-2012, 10:56 AM
Thread jackin like a mother fucker. Thats what i do doggy. I ressurect threads, then jack the fuck out of em.

its funny how people get bitched at for starting new threads USE THE SEARCH...then when they DO use the search get bitched at for brigning up old threads!


I saw this KZ1100 done up in like a Muscle Brat style....
Maybe that can me called BULLY style.... like brat style with big motors?

Deadweight
01-05-2012, 11:24 AM
I personally like seeing all these old threads come back. Especially the good ones. Brat style is good with me.

ibuiltmine
01-05-2012, 11:33 AM
I personally like seeing all these old threads come back. Especially the good ones. Brat style is good with me.

me too! That bratted out kz1100 was in the denver CL a few months ago. that thing was sick dude!
Im going to invent a new style called bully style. like big CC brat style, chop fighters!

tokes61
01-05-2012, 1:35 PM
Under 50 cc dieper style

pre 1950 senile style

harley motor jap custom frame interacial style

black bike nigga style

all white bike honky style

sorry guys got carried away

gyro
01-05-2012, 3:21 PM
Brat style??????

wagonmaster69
02-27-2012, 7:55 PM
Thats what I want to do with this big nasty KZ1100http://i344.photobucket.com/albums/p351/wagonmaster69/1007081105.jpghttp://i344.photobucket.com/albums/p351/wagonmaster69/1007081104a.jpghttp://i344.photobucket.com/albums/p351/wagonmaster69/1007081104.jpg

ibuiltmine
02-27-2012, 8:08 PM
Thats what I want to do with this big nasty KZ1100http://i344.photobucket.com/albums/p351/wagonmaster69/1007081105.jpghttp://i344.photobucket.com/albums/p351/wagonmaster69/1007081104a.jpghttp://i344.photobucket.com/albums/p351/wagonmaster69/1007081104a.jpg

muscle + brat = bully style. :)

Minimalist
02-27-2012, 8:29 PM
So tokes old post reminded me.....haven't seen his stupid as around in a while. Almost started a thread but I didn't want to bring him back to life.

NHMike
02-27-2012, 8:32 PM
CLEARLY this motorcycle has been painted flat black!!! THEREFORE it's a "Bobber"!!! ;)


Thats what I want to do with this big nasty KZ1100http://i344.photobucket.com/albums/p351/wagonmaster69/1007081105.jpghttp://i344.photobucket.com/albums/p351/wagonmaster69/1007081104a.jpghttp://i344.photobucket.com/albums/p351/wagonmaster69/1007081104.jpg

ridemore16
02-27-2012, 8:35 PM
So tokes old post reminded me.....haven't seen his stupid as around in a while. Almost started a thread but I didn't want to bring him back to life.

Yeah dude, Tokes is no more. He got clipped a few weeks back.

wagonmaster69
02-28-2012, 11:54 PM
CLEARLY this motorcycle has been painted flat black!!! THEREFORE it's a "Bobber"!!! ;)
Wrong it's painted gloss black.
But after it dried I used 600 grit wet dry sand paper but used it dry to give it a different texture look to it. :kill:

XwalkerX
03-17-2012, 3:50 PM
this is by far my favorite brat ever made...

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-eZqznb7pBgo/TVckcZ-eg0I/AAAAAAAABGM/VlezNnk-YwY/s1600/photo%2B15031.jpg

Hooligan80
03-17-2012, 3:55 PM
Yeah dude, Tokes is no more. He got clipped a few weeks back.

I killed him, with a didgeridoo ...

Hooligan80
03-17-2012, 3:55 PM
this is by far my favorite brat ever made...

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-eZqznb7pBgo/TVckcZ-eg0I/AAAAAAAABGM/VlezNnk-YwY/s1600/photo%2B15031.jpg

Jaw dropper for sure..

badmojo
03-17-2012, 3:58 PM
The japs are making some killer scoots!!!

HotSnotRocket
03-17-2012, 5:01 PM
this is by far my favorite brat ever made...

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-eZqznb7pBgo/TVckcZ-eg0I/AAAAAAAABGM/VlezNnk-YwY/s1600/photo%2B15031.jpg

That's a 650 Yamahog ain't it? I agree, that's a pretty nice "Ass Hole"... I mean "Brat".

Damn... I have never heard of Brat style. New one for me!

XwalkerX
03-17-2012, 6:15 PM
That's a 650 Yamahog ain't it?

yes sir it is

Nickh949
12-14-2012, 7:51 PM
so pretty much its just a bobber..

ha....hahaha... HAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

really man. :banghead:

TravisLongBeach
12-14-2012, 8:44 PM
flavor of the month, it will go away soon hopefully

drseiss
12-15-2012, 7:56 AM
Flavor of the month? Unless the weed has totally ruined my brain, I'm pretty sure I remember checking out the Bratstyle site like 6-7 years ago. That's a long ass month.

DEADHEAD
12-17-2012, 10:02 PM
i dig this style they make it look good with out getting to into the whole SOA club thug style shit

Jetblack
12-19-2012, 4:16 AM
The most definitive part that defines style; is the nut that connects the handle bars to the seat.